Bumped for Free Media Room

There are terms that say that things can happen and you may need to be moved.

And, while they do not intentionally overbook, it has happened. Also, sometimes they know of an issue in a room that needs to take a room out of service…that doesnt happen that same day.

So maybe it was one of those things?
Oh I totally get maintenance and other unavoidable situations.

I was more referring to the knowingly overbooking part, but it sounds like that occurs much less often on the DVC side.

Still though, with the amount of advanced planning required for a Disney trip now (especially for someone coming from out of state on a longer trip), fair compensation would be needed if this would happen (again, it sounds like they do offer this though).
 
I will try to find it but basically, from what I remember, they offer you another room somewhere. In most cases it’s an upgrade or similar.

Could be a different view but you would never be charged more than what the rooms costs in points…and they won’t may you pay extra .

They needed my 1 bedroom for something at RIV in May…it was one night…I had checked in and they said we need to move you because we need that specific room but we will upgrade you to a 2 bedroom…no idea why…and I was by myself.! Lol.
 
I am confused about the "overbooked" statement....

How can DVC "overbook"? Isn't there a legality issue there somewhere? I completely understand maintenance issues...but isn't that why DVD is supposed to retain 2-3% of the points? IMHO, no DVC member should EVER be bumped from a room with the excuse of "we are overbooked".

When it comes down to it, though, DVC *IS* overbooked....they sell so many "studio"-sized contracts and then market resorts that have 1, 2 and 3-BR accommodations. When 75% of the members are buying "studio"-sized contracts, but only 30% of the resort is made up of studios, the resort is "overbooked". (*Numbers are for demonstrative purposes only;))
 

I am confused about the "overbooked" statement....

How can DVC "overbook"? Isn't there a legality issue there somewhere? I completely understand maintenance issues...but isn't that why DVD is supposed to retain 2-3% of the points? IMHO, no DVC member should EVER be bumped from a room with the excuse of "we are overbooked".
2% of points is not enough to hold back every type of room, every night of the year. They're also balancing both scheduled maintenance and unanticipated maintenance. Something like a water leak--while rare--can take multiple rooms out of service at once. Things like flooring replacement and drywall repairs should still happen between guests if a room's condition dictates a need.

Overbookings have occasionally happened due to computer errors or late changes to refurb schedules. But that's often a widespread thing where multiple members are impacted.

Anecdotally, isolated moves are quite rare. There are 5000-7000 DVC villas in the system, depending on how you count the lockoffs. And each room is turned over 2-3 times per week.

If even 1% of all members were being relocated, and just 1% of THOSE people actually came to the DIS to complain, there would still be multiple reports every week of someone being relocated.
When it comes down to it, though, DVC *IS* overbooked....they sell so many "studio"-sized contracts and then market resorts that have 1, 2 and 3-BR accommodations. When 75% of the members are buying "studio"-sized contracts, but only 30% of the resort is made up of studios, the resort is "overbooked". (*Numbers are for demonstrative purposes only;))
That has nothing to do with having more reservations than rooms.

And it's a very speculative topic for discussion. Many members with small contracts bank and borrow to stay in larger rooms. DVC has done a pretty good job of adding a higher ratio of studios in recent years (Poly, VGF). The new Disneyland Hotel DVC is about 80% studio.

We could probably argue that a resort like the Poly is out of balance with so many points invested in the bungalows. But members do a good job of taking whatever accommodation best suits their price and needs, even if they have to wait until 7 months to do it.
 
2% of points is not enough to hold back every type of room, every night of the year. They're also balancing both scheduled maintenance and unanticipated maintenance. Something like a water leak--while rare--can take multiple rooms out of service at once. Things like flooring replacement and drywall repairs should still happen between guests if a room's condition dictates a need.

Overbookings have occasionally happened due to computer errors or late changes to refurb schedules. But that's often a widespread thing where multiple members are impacted.

Anecdotally, isolated moves are quite rare. There are 5000-7000 DVC villas in the system, depending on how you count the lockoffs. And each room is turned over 2-3 times per week.

If even 1% of all members were being relocated, and just 1% of THOSE people actually came to the DIS to complain, there would still be multiple reports every week of someone being relocated.

That has nothing to do with having more reservations than rooms.

And it's a very speculative topic for discussion. Many members with small contracts bank and borrow to stay in larger rooms. DVC has done a pretty good job of adding a higher ratio of studios in recent years (Poly, VGF). The new Disneyland Hotel DVC is about 80% studio.

We could probably argue that a resort like the Poly is out of balance with so many points invested in the bungalows. But members do a good job of taking whatever accommodation best suits their price and needs, even if they have to wait until 7 months to do it.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. This is very informative:thanks:
 
The accessibility issues probably forced them to do RIV. Maybe they would have put you at Poly, but that was in play. That's what the Florida room means, it's the Florida accessibility rules. But yea, major bummer with ECVs in the complete wrong place. I'd be furious too. I would have asked for two rooms at Poly anyway and not an accessible room, actually a better situation for the ECVs with the TTC right there, and Poly would work for my needs, even without an accessible room, with our disabled human's bathroom needs.
 
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Thanks all for your input. I sent a written, snail mail letter off to Member Services. That's my hold over "I'm *really* upset" from the pre digital days. I also sent a letter for the Wilderness Lodge front desk evening manager's file with accolades.

I'll definitely report back when (oh goodness, I sincerely hope it is not "if"!) I get a response.
 
I received a member services phone call just now to follow up on "my email." I corrected her and let her know that I had sent a hand written letter. She asked me to detail what had happened. She apologized. She put me on hold for 12 minutes. She came back and said she was finished documenting the call and was there anything else? I added that I was surprised not to have a voicemail welcoming us to Riviera despite the situation. (At one point it was common to have a note or voicemail for members either from management or from the guide.) She thanked me and said to have a nice day if there was nothing else.

So, I did receive a response and it was as if it was something they were not aware of.
 
I received a member services phone call just now to follow up on "my email." I corrected her and let her know that I had sent a hand written letter. She asked me to detail what had happened. She apologized. She put me on hold for 12 minutes. She came back and said she was finished documenting the call and was there anything else? I added that I was surprised not to have a voicemail welcoming us to Riviera despite the situation. (At one point it was common to have a note or voicemail for members either from management or from the guide.) She thanked me and said to have a nice day if there was nothing else.

So, I did receive a response and it was as if it was something they were not aware of.
What a truly odd response, purely purplexing why they thought that was productive... lets just call and act like nobody knew it happened... see what they do now...
 
We have never been bumped from a DVC reservation, but I agree with the previous poster who said on that initial phone call, it is probably important in that moment to be polite, yet firm, about what is and is not considered acceptable to you. For the vast majority of our trips, we only stay at MK-area resorts or Boardwalk/Beach Club. If I was called and bumped to Riviera for any reason, I would be politely declining and pushing for an alternative at one of our preferred resorts. While we enjoy the skyliner, we do not like the idea of being dependent on it for getting to our parks in the morning. If we ever (hypothetically) got bumped from Beach Club, we would be forcing the issue regarding access to Stormalong Bay, and would hope to receive one of the cash rooms at BC/YC, as the pool is one of our primary reasons for choosing that resort. Disney has the ability to "make it right" if you push hard enough for what is important to you. I agree that it is hard for them to do anything after-the-fact other than potentially refunding some of your points - but that would only continue to put additional stress on the system.

Hopefully with the ending of the pandemic-era DVC restrictions, we will start to see the system normalize and the service levels will start to return to pre-pandemic normal in the coming months.
 



















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