Bris ???

akhenaten

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Hi all...
My Dear Niece converted to Judaism...

She just had a baby boy and Tuesday is the Bris.

I have never attended a Bris... should I bring my children ages 17,12,4?

Is the procedure over quick?
Is it hard to attend??

I love my Niece and her Husband and I want to do the right thing.....do people bring gifts??

any advice welcome ( except a debate about circumcision).....
 
Dh's sister married a Jewish man and we attended our nephew's Bris. The ceremony didn't bother me, we really couldn't see anything. We stayed to the back of the crowd because thought the Jewish side of the family would want to be closer to the action. It was REALLY hard on my SIL though, but it was her baby so that was probably why. I think your kids are fine going, your older two are old enough to handle it and your 4 year old won't really get what is going on. We brought our kids and they were 3 and 6 at the time.
 
It's really quick, but it's not easy. I couldn't be near my son. . . my husband had to be there next to the mohel.

And my daughter. . . she was on our balcony. . . and when my ds started crying, she yelled, "What are you doing to my baby brother?"

It is really not fun. I'm glad I had only one son and two daughters.

You can definitely bring a baby gift.

Mazel Tov, though!
 

Kendra17 said:
It's really quick, but it's not easy. I couldn't be near my son. . . my husband had to be there next to the mohel.

And my daughter. . . she was on our balcony. . . and when my ds started crying, she yelled, "What are you doing to my baby brother?"

It is really not fun. I'm glad I had only one son and two daughters.

You can definitely bring a baby gift.

Mazel Tov, though!

Thanks Kendra!

My DS12 had his done in the hospital and I was not there...
I know my Niece is planning on being in another room....

I know how important it is as a religious ceremony but it kinda freaks me
out.....

Did they use any tylenol or topical cream prior to the circumcision?

BTW I have one son and two daughters also!

Carol in NJ
 
akhenaten said:
Thanks Kendra!

My DS12 had his done in the hospital and I was not there...
I know my Niece is planning on being in another room....

I know how important it is as a religious ceremony but it kinda freaks me
out.....

Did they use any tylenol or topical cream prior to the circumcision?

BTW I have one son and two daughters also!

Carol in NJ


When we were in our prenatal classes the pediatrician that came in to talk to the class told us a story about when he had to get stitches for something an how much the topical BURNED his cut. He said that ever since then he stopped giving it to boys when he did the circumcision. This was 15 years ago so things may have changed. I know for my nephew, he did cry at first but he stopped shortly after that with very little comforting. I know it hurts at first but it seems to go away quickly.
 
Wait a second...Jewish people have a circumcison party? :confused3



*note--I am not anti-Semitic. It just sounds really, really wierd to me, that's all. I mean I realize we celebrate a lot of things in every day life, like birthdays and christenings and confirmations of baptisms (if you're Catholic or Lutheran). But I've never heard of somebody celebrating a circumcision before. Hey..ya learn something new every day, right? :) *

TOV
 
I was invited to one as I have a relative who married a Jewish woman. I honestly had to leave the room to go throw up. So, I'd vote in the not fun category.
 
Pigeon--I"m right there with you. Neither DH or I wanted to watch (though we were invited to by his pedi)DS's circ at around 36 hrs of age. That's just more than I can handle.

But to the OP: If you can handle it (and you think your kids can) go for it. :thumbsup2

But what kind of card do you get the parents? Happy Bris Day? Do they MAKE cards for that sort of occassion? I've seen Happy Hannukuh (Chanukuh?) Cards and Bar/Bat Mitzvah cards, but never a Happy Bris Day card.

Hmm..I could start a whole new greeting card line. Cards to give parents on the day of their son's Bris...

Happy Bris Day! He didn't need that extra skin anyway. Right? :teeth:
Happy Bris Day! Because it's not mutilation if it's for religious reasons. ;)
Happy Bris Day! Because when God created the *beep*, he added an extra flap, just so the Rabbi could cut it off! :rotfl2:

:duck:
*flame suit on*

TOV
 
TOV I cannot understand why you don't have at least a rudimentary knowledge of this practice which is as old as religion itself. Surely you have read about it in modern day literature. In any event, it is a very solemn and meaningful ceremony to Jews and certainly not anything to be made fun of. I don't think you are an anti-semite. I just think you are seriously lacking knowledge.
 
I'm sorry,mm. I should know by now that not everybody has the same sense of humor I do.


TOV
 
Well, I attended mine. Since I was only 8 days old, I really don't remember much. The only anesthetic they use is an old one - a drop of wine on the child's lips. I was told that I liked it.

I was my oldest nephew's godfather, which meant that, at the bris, I held him. I focused my eyes above him, and no one ever knew that I didn't look.

Seriously, if you don't look, it's fine. The boy cries, but babies cry. I've been told (not sure if I believe) that the crying is from being held and not being able to move, more than from the pain.

As far as a gift goes, you can bring something. A general congratulations card is also appropriate.
 
TheOtherVillainess said:
I'm sorry,mm. I should know by now that not everybody has the same sense of humor I do.


TOV


And maybe, just maybe, don't make jokes about things you don't really have a strong understanding about.

I mean I'm Catholic, and don't know a lot about bris'. WHich is why I would NEVER even attempt to crack a joke about the procedure, or the ceremony.

Just a little sensitivity, that's all.
 
akhenaten said:
Thanks Kendra!

My DS12 had his done in the hospital and I was not there...
I know my Niece is planning on being in another room....

I know how important it is as a religious ceremony but it kinda freaks me
out.....

Did they use any tylenol or topical cream prior to the circumcision?

BTW I have one son and two daughters also!

Carol in NJ

We're not very religious, but I am pretty traditional. So, since I knew I'd get my son circumsized anyways, I chose to do it traditionally-- and have a bris. The mohel we had do the circumcision had done probably 1/2 the Jewish community in that area (very large), so I trusted him. HOWEVER. . . I don't think he used a topical anesthetic, but he did give my son a little wine. I really wished he used a topical anesthetic. But, I'll be honest with you-- I don't think it would have helped. The only thing that probably would have helped would have been an injectible lidocaine or something like that.

It is QUICK. Very very fast. But, very horrible, because you know the baby is absolutely not having an easy time with it, no matter what anybody says.

Afterwards, they give you a topical cream (I don't remember the name of it) that is petroleum based. Probably neosporin or something similar. And, he had no complications. If you had your son's done in the hospital, I bet you it's probably very similar. Although everyone seems to prefer a hospital setting, I have to tell you that they often tie down the babies so they don't squirm. I'm not sure that the hospital setting-- with or without lidocaine-- is better.

It sort of freaks me out, too. And, because (as I said) I'm not very religious, I really was practically debating what I should do. In the end, I decided YES, I'm Jewish, I'll have a bris. And, you just do it. I also wanted my son to look like my husband (uh, if you know what I mean).

TheOtherVillainess said:
Wait a second...Jewish people have a circumcison party? :confused3



*note--I am not anti-Semitic. It just sounds really, really wierd to me, that's all. I mean I realize we celebrate a lot of things in every day life, like birthdays and christenings and confirmations of baptisms (if you're Catholic or Lutheran). But I've never heard of somebody celebrating a circumcision before. Hey..ya learn something new every day, right? :) *

TOV

The Other Villainess-- I don't think you're anti-semitic for asking a question! So, let me explain what the bris-- or brit malah is about. According to Torah,
God [then] said to Abraham, 'As far as you are concerned, you must keep My covenant - you and your offspring throughout their generations. This is My covenant between Me, and between you and your offspring that you must keep: You must circumcise every male. You shall be circumcised through the flesh of your foreskin. This shall be the mark of the covenant between Me and you. 'Throughout all generations, every male shall be circumcised when he is eight days old. . . . This shall be My covenant in your flesh, an eternal covenant. The uncircumcised male whose foreskin has not been circumcised, shall have his soul cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.' Genesis 17:1-14[1]

So, on the eighth day, we have a bris which is celebratory in the sense that we are confirming his/our covenant with God. We are also welcoming the little boy into Judaism.

Also, you really can find a Mazel Tov card at Walgreens, usually.
 
I've never been to a bris, nor do I think I can attend one and actually witness the ceremony. When DS was born, my doc came in the next day and said it was time for his circumcision.....I said "I'm going with you" He tried to talk me out of it.....we walked down the long hallway and I was getting more and more apprehensive, but the time we got to his circumcision room it was like he was reading my mind...and said "you will not be a bad mother if you leave him with me" I said OK. I stood outside the door and cried my eyes out at his screaming.
 
Cindy's Mom said:
I've never been to a bris, nor do I think I can attend one and actually witness the ceremony. When DS was born, my doc came in the next day and said it was time for his circumcision.....I said "I'm going with you" He tried to talk me out of it.....we walked down the long hallway and I was getting more and more apprehensive, but the time we got to his circumcision room it was like he was reading my mind...and said "you will not be a bad mother if you leave him with me" I said OK. I stood outside the door and cried my eyes out at his screaming.

Yikes!!! Reading that brought tears to my eyes....man, I am so glad I had a dd. I do not know how I would've made it through that!!

:wave:

Beca
 
amy4bruce said:
Well, I attended mine. Since I was only 8 days old, I really don't remember much. The only anesthetic they use is an old one - a drop of wine on the child's lips. I was told that I liked it.

I was my oldest nephew's godfather, which meant that, at the bris, I held him. I focused my eyes above him, and no one ever knew that I didn't look.

Seriously, if you don't look, it's fine. The boy cries, but babies cry. I've been told (not sure if I believe) that the crying is from being held and not being able to move, more than from the pain.

As far as a gift goes, you can bring something. A general congratulations card is also appropriate.

:rotfl: :rotfl:
I am glad you don't remember...


Holding the baby...wow that must have been hard to do...I know its an honor to be asked....
 
Thanks all for the info and comments!

TOV I know you were being funny...but I also know that the Bris is a very important ceremony...the child is as I would say.... being welcomed into or joining in the covenant with G*D.
( I also wrote G*D this way out of respect for my neice because I know they don't believe you should write the name of G*D....)

Pidgeon: I plan to sit as far back as possible....it is in Temple so it is not an intimate space...so I think it will be OK (also at 7:15 before breakfast so nothing ton worry about keeping down)


I guess I want to go because my Dear Neice is very devout and I understand how important this is to her....I also know it will be hard for her and want to be there to support her too....(Of course I want to find out what he will be named also :) !)

I was a chicken and did not go with my Ds when he got his done...honestly I left it up to my husband to decide if he should even have one.....I figured he could judge better than I.... !!!LOL

Well I will let you all know tomorrow if I regret my decision to attend....
 


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