Breastfeeding an older baby at WDW

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Sorry, just wanted to add, that while I would have no problem explaining breastfeeding to my child or my nephews, I do understand the conflict of the poster who had students at the zoo.

As a teacher, parents can complain and start a lot of extra unnecessary problems over things like that- a profane word in a Shakespearean play caused one such controversy last year and I teach high school where kids see those words in the bathroom every day! Teachers have to be overly cautious with stuff like that because of the consequences. I wouldn't have minded explaining it to them, but I wouldn't have wanted to have someone call up declaring that I am teaching something unauthorized and am therefore unfit, etc. (This stuff does happen)
 
For myself I think there is no "magic age". Now I do think that a 5 or 7 year old would be able to understand that breastfeeding was for smaller kids. But- who am I to judge. I would definately set limits if I had a older nurser. I would breastfeed in public a 5 year old. Mainly because I wouldn't want the child to feel awkward or be starred at.


Here is the lemon trick I used for my DD when she was 38 months old. I put lemon on a papertowel in my bra. Just before nursing I took out the paper towel. DD had a taste and said she didn't like it. She tried the next morning and maybe one other time. Before this started we had been having talks that soon "milky" wouldn't taste that good because she was getting older. This really worked for us. She felt no rejection because it was her choice. We did continue to co sleep. I am now ready to begin work on that! (lol)
 
LuluLovesDisney said:
I do not understand the reasons for the snarky comments made by some here. First, I agree that breastfeeding is not the differential in bonding between mother and child. That is like saying since my mother did not breastfeed me, we are not as close as we *should* have been.

Breastfeeding is a wonderful thing for those that choose to do it and are able. If a mother chooses not to, they can still have just as close of a relationship with their child. Breastfeeding is natural, yes, and has health benefits, but no one is "right" or "wrong" for their decisions or circumstances.

As far as what breasts are for, yes, they are biologically for breastfeeding. That is undebatable. Just like the biological function of eyelashes are to keep bugs and dirt out of delicate eyeballs. We can use our body parts for whatever we like, eyelashes can be used for flirting, for making eyes look bigger with mascara, etc. I do not have to provide a list of options for using breasts. However, whatever we do with them does not change their biological function.

As far as public breastfeeding, as long as women follow the laws of the state they are in, take proper care in covering up, and exercise common sense (ie: breastfeeding in Bistro de Paris would probably not be the classiest thing to do) they can breastfeed for as long as they like. I think baby care lounges, dressing room foyers before the bathrooms in nicer restaurants, well-shaded park benches and the like would be the most comfortable places to breastfeed.

Oh dear! Lulu, I was with you up until this part: "...exercise common sense (ie: breastfeeding in Bistro de Paris would probably not be the classiest thing to do), they can breastfeed for as long as they like. I think baby care lounges, dressing room foyers before the bathrooms in nicer restaurants, well-shaded park benches and the like would be the most comfortable places to breastfeed."

I wouldn't call your comments "snarky", but they are rather judgemental. While Bistro de Paris isn't a place I'd take my kids in the first place, if a baby was there and needed to eat, it'd be no less classy to feed him there than any other place.

It sounds like you haven't breastfed, so why on earth would you speculate as to the most comfortable places to breastfeed? Just FYI, it's a lot more comfortable to breastfeed at the table, eating my own dinner with my free hand and conversing with my husband, than it is to sit alone in a bathroom for 20 minutes while my dinner gets cold. (Even those little "lounges" aren't separated enough from the main bathroom to avoid hearing and smelling everything that goes on in them :crazy2: ).


Karen -- I wanted to address your question about how I'd feel to be stared at while BFIP. First of all, I think that with all the negativity shown toward BFIP in this country, women need to be pretty self-confident to do it in the first place. I remember kids staring on a couple of occasions, and it truly didn't make me uncomfortable at all. I could tell they were wondering what I was doing, and I would have liked to say "I'm just feeding my baby", but I didn't for fear their parents wouldn't have wanted me to say anything. IIRC, the parents told the children it's not polite to stare, and distracted them somehow. I was fine with that, and I'd have been fine with the parent telling me "sorry, he has autism and sometimes forgets that he shouldn't stare". Really, if a child's stares were making me uncomfortable, I'd wonder if too much breast was showing, and try to cover up a bit more. I think those women were rude to you and your son, to make those comments before even attempting to cover up what he was staring at.


Last thing, one more funny story to share -- not bf-related, but related to "uncomfortable" discussions with your kids. We were in a home improvement store last night, when dd7 saw a bidet and said something about the funny little toilet. Tons of people were around, and most of them giggled. Dh replied "that's not a toilet, it's a bidet". This time, gasps from nearby shoppers. Of course, dd asked "what's a bidet?" More gasps and the looks from a couple of people like "See, you should've just let her think it's a toilet.".

I explained to dd, "It's for washing your private parts. People sit on it, and water sprays up to wash yourself with." Dd's response was "Oh. Wow, look at that cool shower over there!", and the conversation was over.

One of the other shoppers actually came over to me afterward and told me I'd impressed her, that she'd have been embarassed to talk about it and probably would have let her kids think it was a toilet. :rotfl: All I could think of when this was going on was whether any parents ever contacted the store to ask them not to carry bidets, so they wouldn't have to explain to their kids what they are. :rotfl:

A simple explanation on a child's level is so easy, and is usually no big deal to a child for whom body parts are just body parts.
 
becca011906 said:
The actual # of women who CAN't Breast feed is 2%, that's right 2% of women physically can't breastfeed. thoes who don't have childen that is a person choice. I don't say all women HAVE to breastfeed but yes that is why you have breasts!

Wait a minute it is not a personal choice to not have children. Sometimes it is a crule blow that we are dealt by nature!!!!!

It is a personal choice to BF in public and if you make the choice to then you can either deal with the looks or do it in private.

There are a lot of things that our bodies are meant for, but that does not mean that we do them in public? NO, we have modisty and respect for ourselves and those around us and we therefore do them at home.

I am not opposed to BF in public, however I feel that when a child begins to eat table food it is time to begin to eat like the others at the table. If a parent needs to BF then I appreciate when they are more modist and discrete. But I am not going to let a BF parent ruin my day!
 

Tink123 said:
But I am not going to let a BF parent ruin my day!

Good grief. I hope not. How on earth could a mother feeding her child possibly ruin anybody's day? :confused3

And, yes, there are things we do with our bodies that are private - but eating isn't one of them. Breastfeeding is eating. Pure and simple. I don't know anybody who thinks of eating as an activity that should only be done in private. Do you eat all your meals in the privacy of your home? I didn't think so.

As for this statment -

Tink123 said:
. . I feel that when a child begins to eat table food it is time to begin to eat like the others at the table.

Well, you can go ahead and feel that way if you want, but there sure is a big old mountain of medical research and doccumentation that proves you wrong. Oh well.

There is so much else to respond to in that last post, but I'm still shaking my head in confusion too much t
o be able to type right now. :confused3
 
I nursed both my boys until they were 2 1/2 years old. Sometimes I would get some looks but mostly people just ignored me.

I loved nursing my children. Both my boys still remember it and when they see a baby nursing they often comment very positively about it.

I would go to the baby care stations, but also spent lots of time on the benches on the walkway behind Cinderalla's castle. Very peaceful -- not lots of traffic. A good naptime spot for the stroller, as well.

Best of luck. Mothers milk rules!
 
Stacy_C said:
Not to take away from the obstacles that your preemie baby overcame, but for what it's worth, I can say the exact same thing about all 3 of my formula-fed babies.

I second that!
 
GEM said:
Good grief. I hope not. How on earth could a mother feeding her child possibly ruin anybody's day? :confused3

And, yes, there are things we do with our bodies that are private - but eating isn't one of them. Breastfeeding is eating. Pure and simple. I don't know anybody who thinks of eating as an activity that should only be done in private. Do you eat all your meals in the privacy of your home? I didn't think so.

As for this statment -



Well, you can go ahead and feel that way if you want, but there sure is a big old mountain of medical research and doccumentation that proves you wrong. Oh well.

There is so much else to respond to in that last post, but I'm still shaking my head in confusion too much t
o be able to type right now. :confused3

Not everyone has the chance to BF. My daughter was adopted and from the time we found out about her until the time she was in our arms was a matter of days, there for I was not able to take the medicine to allow me to BF.
Please do not ridicule those of us who are not able to or choose not to BF.
 
I do not see the problem with women breastfeeding in public. Men walk around all summer with their shirts off. I bet no one ever drove by a road crew of men not wearing shirts and thought "How dare them show their nipples in public!" :rolleyes2 Talk about a double standard!
 
Tink123 said:
Not everyone has the chance to BF. My daughter was adopted and from the time we found out about her until the time she was in our arms was a matter of days, there for I was not able to take the medicine to allow me to BF.
Please do not ridicule those of us who are not able to or choose not to BF.


Whoa. Nowhere in any of that did I ridicule or make fun (in any way) of anyone who couldn't or didn't breastfeed for whatever reason.

All I did was respond to your statements about breastfeeding. I never, ever said anything at all one way or the other about anyone who didn't or couldn't breastfeed. There was no ridicule at all. In fact, if you read my posts, you will see that I've honestly tried to go out of my way to make it clear that I have no issues with women who don't breastfeed.

The only people I have problems with are those who criticize mothers for breastfeeding or for breastfeeding in public.

You made the statments that mothers should "deal with the looks" or do it in private and that babies who can eat table food shouldn't nurse. And, of course, all moms know that babies continue to need either breastmilk or formula for quite sometime after starting tablefood. They can't be expected to eat like everyone else at the table because their needs are very different. So, to say that a baby that eats table food doesn't need to nurse is just plain incorrect. You also equated breastfeeding with other bodily functions that should be done in private, at least if a person has modesty and respect for herself - implying, of course, that mothers who nurse in public have neither.

I was responding to those statments only. I don't see any possible way that can be taken as ridiculing you for not breastfeeding.

I never made one derogatory statment toward formula feeding moms, whereas you made several toward breastfeeding moms.
 
GEM i totally agree with you, you never said anything about that, what a way to twist things around... this thread is just a mess of people twisiting what one another say... My dd is 12 months old yeah she eat some table food about 1 time a day other then that she is a breastfed baby and i will breastfeed her anywhere she needs to be fed be that is the fanciest resturant to the hot and sweaty park bench....
 
Ok I am jumping on board...

I BFed both sets of my twins. I did better with my second set because I knew more of what I was doing. I usually did the football hold at the same time so I could not really do it in public. I brought them into this world so I felt like I should give them the best start that I could muster!

My question is-Has anyone on this thread been raised in the country, farm, ranch? I grew up in TX and we had cattle. I saw more than just breastfeeding with all those cows and the lone bull! :rotfl: I grew up just fine! It kind of weirds me out that some posters are scared of their kids knowing that someone is Bfing??? Have they not seen a dog and her puppies, etc...??
 
Yep. In fact, the only time I actually had a child ask a question about what I was doing (it was my little cousin), that's exactly how I explained it. He was about 8 years old when he saw me breastfeeding Paul at a family Christmas gathering. He asked what Paul was doing and I said that he was getting his milk. He said, "Milk comes from a bottle." I just said that some babies get their milk right from their mommies, just like his cat and her kittens. He seemed to get that just fine and walked away unscathed, as far as I know. So far, he doesn't seem damaged in any way by the whole traumatic experience. :teeth: In fact, over Christmas my husband and Paul and I went on a cruise with him and his daddy. It was great, and he did see Paul nursing quite a bit. He never even batted an eye, just totally took it in stride - and this was a kid who was totally bottle fed and had never known anything else. Kids are really pretty accepting and understanding, when you give them a chance.
 
GEM said:
I just said that some babies get their milk right from their mommies, just like his cat and her kittens. He seemed to get that just fine and walked away unscathed, as far as I know.

This is just what I said to my daughter (just turned 4 years) and she seems fine with it. I told her that when she was a baby, I nursed her, too. And she knows that her little brother "drinks mommy's milk", and she doesn't seem "obsessed" with it in any way. She seems quite accepting of it, to be honest.

And, to the OP, the baby care stations are WONDERFUL. I used many of them when we went in December (when DS was 1 year) and I was just amazed at how nice they all are. They even have areas with little high chairs so you can feed your toddler in a "real seat" and it's easy to scoop up the pasta and peas that roll on to the floor. I plan to use the baby care stations to nurse my son when we are there next spring. (Heaven knows he won't be weaned by then!) Guess that makes me a "wacky mom" nursing a boy until he's 2.5 years. But hey, some would say he is doomed to be damaged for life anyway since I am a FT WOHM. :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
 
Wow are we ever getting out of hand here. Most mom's make the decisions that they feel are best for their family. I have BFIP everywhere including the White House. I defy you to find someone that has seen my breast when I was breatsfeeding in public! Does this mean every BF mom is descreet? NO!! If another feels comfortable letting it all hang out that's her choice. If you don't want to see don't look. I'm not going to let her behavior dicate my behavior anymore then if there's a women running around outside naked I would expect you to go out naked even if the law allowed it. It is my right to BF my child wherever I am with my child. I am discreet because that's who I am but not every women feels her breasts are a private area. Many cultures do not feel as ours does about the body and they see nothing wrong with nudity in public therefore to them breastfeeding with their breast out isn't indiscreet.

Whether or not to have childern is not always a personal choice. To say it is IS hurtful to those who would give anything to have the choice to make.
Bottles are not bad, but neither are breasts. Women we need to stand together period. If you decided not to breastfeed that it's was not what was best for your family that's fine. If you decided to breastfeed because that what was best fot your family that's fine too. One group are NOT better mom's here. Better mom's are the one's that remember everyday that their childern are GIFTS. That hugs are important. We need to support each other regardless of our feeding choices. Being a mom is the best but it's scary, hard and diffcult enough without judgements on feeding choices. I think we need to remember that MOST mom's on this list are the BETTER mom's. We all LOVE our kids. Stop judging due to feeding choices. Formula is NOT POSION. If the worst thing your child sees is a women's BREAST consider yourself blessed and move on. Maybe I got through to someone but proably not.
Tina
 
I AM NOT TRYING TO GET FLAMED HERE!! Belive me, I really don't care how women choose to feed their kids.

However, many women I know, both breastfeeders and bottle feeders alike, disagree with long term breastfeeding. They understand that breastfeeding an infant is medically proven to be healthier then formula feeding, however when babies begin to grow teeth (aorund 4-6 months) it is sort of natures way of saying it is time to move on to solid foods. I don't know if children are meant to be fed in this fashion after infancy, I don't really care either but it sort of seems like nature intends for breastfeeding to stop at that point.

In other forms of nature, the young of species are not fed into childhood, they are fed during infancy. Why is it that women feed their toddlers from their breasts? I am really not trying to start an argument, I just don't understand the necessity for it. As far as immunity goes, babies have their mothers immunities for the first year regardless of whether or not the mother chose to breastfeed or not. After the first year, shouldnt the child develop an immunity of it's own? and as far as bonding goes, I never agreed with that as a reason anyway because I don't believe in the argument. However, even if the woman feels this way, are there not other ways to bond with your child? That are not quite as painful....
 
Goobergal99 said:
.....They understand that breastfeeding an infant is medically proven to be healthier then formula feeding, however when babies begin to grow teeth (aorund 4-6 months) it is sort of natures way of saying it is time to move on to solid foods. I don't know if children are meant to be fed in this fashion after infancy, I don't really care either but it sort of seems like nature intends for breastfeeding to stop at that point.

In other forms of nature, the young of species are not fed into childhood, they are fed during infancy. Why is it that women feed their toddlers from their breasts? I am really not trying to start an argument, I just don't understand the necessity for it. As far as immunity goes, babies have their mothers immunities for the first year regardless of whether or not the mother chose to breastfeed or not. After the first year, shouldnt the child develop an immunity of it's own? and as far as bonding goes, I never agreed with that as a reason anyway because I don't believe in the argument. However, even if the woman feels this way, are there not other ways to bond with your child? That are not quite as painful....

Oh my.... no flames from me, but for goodness sake at least research and do some fact finding about bf'ing before making erroneous statements and forming opinions like these... Extended breastfeeding has virtues and many benefits in general.

I mentioned legitimate bf'ing resources in my earlier post.

Mods, please lock this thread!
 
grlpwrd said:
Oh my.... no flames from me, but for goodness sake at least research and do some fact finding about bf'ing before making erroneous statements like these... Extended breastfeeding has virtues and many benefits in general.

I mentioned legitimate bf'ing resources in my earlier post.

Mods, please lock this thread!


geez why do my posts always lead to the thread being closed, I was just asking a ?.

I dont think I made any erroneous statements, I asked why ppl do it for such a long period of time period.
 
grlpwrd said:
Oh my.... no flames from me, but for goodness sake at least research and do some fact finding about bf'ing before making erroneous statements and forming opinions like these... Extended breastfeeding has virtues and many benefits in general.

I mentioned legitimate bf'ing resources in my earlier post.

Mods, please lock this thread!

Oh and BTW, I am a critical care nurse, so I am not totally ignorant to the ways of modern medicine. Infants do have their mothers immunity for the first year of their lives, whether they CHOOSE to breastfeed or not.
 
WeluvDisney2 said:
I do not see the problem with women breastfeeding in public. Men walk around all summer with their shirts off. I bet no one ever drove by a road crew of men not wearing shirts and thought "How dare them show their nipples in public!" :rolleyes2 Talk about a double standard!


Everyone here may not know this but in Canada women are allowed to go topless where men are allowed to go topless. How about them apples?????!!!!!! :earseek:

Why shouldn't we be able to? Tell me that!!!
 
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