Breaking Dawn Spoilers Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Desnik]

This is the shirt I made to wear to the party the front:

The back:

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

Here's the transcript from the LA Concert Tour last night. BTW, FD stands for Forever Dawn, the original version of BD that followed immediately after Twilight.

Q: What was the difference between BD and FD?
A: The basic storyline is the same: B/E get married, Renesmee is born and Jacob imprints on her. However, in BD Jacob is more developed as a result of New Moon and Eclipse, and Leah has a larger role.

Q: How does Edward see himself now? Does he still see himself as a monster?
A: Edward has had a great evolution as a character, he is a pessimist, and his worst fear was that he would change Bella and she would hate him or regret it. That didn't happen, so he has faith in their future now. He's a believer.

Q: What is your favorite B/E moment?
A: The last two pages (Bella letting Edward into her mind) are the culmination of the whole romance. That was the moment when they finally really know each other. New love is fantastic, but love realized is even better.

Q: Will there be outtakes and extras for BD?
A: There are fewer cuts as the series goes along, but she will try to post bits of FD to show how it is both similar and different from BD.

Q: Will she publish her BD spoof, "Breaking Down"? (This was mentioned in the EW article.)
A: Meyer jokes that if she hadn't been touring for "The Host", she would have leaked the spoof... it's the Hamlet ending, where Bella trips and falls off a cliff, Charlie loses his job after getting addicted to Bella's pain meds, and Bella's marriage to Mike ends when he elopes with Erik Yorkie. (I was ROTFLMAO at this point

Q: Why didn't we see Bella's pregnancy in Bella's POV?
A: In FD, the pregnancy is in Bella's POV. There is lag time where Bella is stuck in the house, she's missing the action... that section needed an overhaul to be more interesting... Jacob's narration grew on her because he sees everything. It was an "awesome" experience writing Jake... she finally gets to display all of Jacob's snarkiness in his head, and it made the story more action-oriented and moved it along faster.

Q: Do the cover and title of BD have meaning, and what part of BD goes with "My Never" (a Blue October song on the BD playlist)?
A: The cover is for all four books, it shows the progression of Bella from pawn to most powerful player on board, she wanted to show that visually. For the title, FD was too cheesy, she wanted a sense of disaster and a new awakening with problems, so she chose BD. "My Never" goes with page 355 in BD (this is where Jacob believes Bella has died and he and Edward are working over a corpse).

Q: Seeing Edward and other Cullens through Jacob's eyes is fascinating... what other POV's would you like to write BD in?
A: Alice would be a good one. Jacob had to evolve, admit he was wrong about Edward, and it was fascinating to see how B/E looks to to others. Alice would be the other best option because she has a separate adventure from the other Cullens, i.e. going to get Nahuel.

Q: Since Renesmee will live forever, will Jacob live forever?
A: Once the trigger of vampires is gone, Jacob can keep the same age as long as he keeps phasing... both are set up for immortality.

Q: What was the phone conversation between Rosalie and Bella like?
A: Someone Meyer talked to today said she thought Rosalie and Bella were going to run away... Meyer thinks that's cool, but what happened was Bella said "You've heard", and Rosalie is very sullen at this point because she thinks Bella has everything. Then Bella says "you have to help me, help me keep this child alive", and Rosalie's perspective on Bella changed. Rose was ready when Bella and Edward got home.

Q: Is the before car real?
A: No. The real car is the Mercedes Guard, but Meyer invented the Guardian and gave it more missile-proof armor.

Q: Why did Edward call Jacob his son in BD?
A: That was an odd moment for Meyer. Sometimes the character voice is so loud, it takes her off guard. Edward has completely accepted Renesmee's future with Jacob, their happiness is most important to him. It was cheesy but she burst into tears when she heard him say that.

Q: What was going on between Billy and Charlie?
A: Billy thought he would get together with Sue romantically, but then she fell for Charlie, and now Charlie and Billy aren't speaking. (My reaction here is ***??)

Q: Why did Bella envision a son instead of a daughter?
A: Meyer always knew Renesmee was girl... Bella has issues with herself and couldn't imagine anything more lovely than Edward, so she thought his son was the most beautiful/amazing thing possible. Bella was happily surprised by her daughter.

Q: What happened to Leah?
A: There is a lot of story there... we don't get her much when we leave Jacob's POV... she is Jacob's Beta now and very pleased with that. She is in a better place, but if Meyer goes ahead with Twilight books, Leah would be a story she wants to follow.

Q: Has Gianna been turned into a Volturi?
A: Gianna did not make the cut!! They ATE GIANNA! (My reaction: ROTFLMAO! Also, no wonder it's so hard to get good help!)

Q: Why are Heidi's eyes purple?
A: The color was achieved with blue contacts on red irises.

Q: What made you decide on the pregnancy storyline?
A: In New Moon and Eclipse, with one exception, every moment is heading toward what happened in BD... hints are there. The one exception is the Quileute backstory.. that was written when there was possibility of just three books and she had to come up with an alternate ending in case she couldn't publish BD. (She didn't elaborate on what the ending was.)

Q: How early on did you decide that Jacob would imprint on Nessie?
A: From the very beginning, as soon as Twilight was done and she was writing epilogues.

Q: Have you seen the movie? Are you happy with it?
A: She has seen a rough cut and is thrilled, had to pack to come on tour and could only watch it once... wanted to see it again.

Q: In the end, Bella was the one protecting everyone. Did you know she'd end up strong?
A: She knew Bella would make the difference at the end... when people were talking about Bella being a weak human who needed to be rescued, it was frustrating because she knew Bella was going to end up kicking butt.

Q: Do you feel sad that Bella's perspective is over?
A: She doesn't feel sad yet due to writing MS.

 

[VirtuallyMe]

Thanks for posting the Q&A's

 

[mla1977]

Okay, this thread needs a bump. I'm not completely finished with the book, but happened upon spoilers, so I know the ending, generally speaking.

I'm enjoying it. I just knew that Bella was going to get pregnant on the honeymoon. I just wish I put it in writing before. I was wishing that her superpower would be something to do with seeing the truth about everything. That is what I thought many of her dreams did for her. (like the one where Edwards a vampire or the one where she realizes that Jacobs a wearwolf). I guess the power is cool, even though I haven't actually read that part. I also think there are some really funny parts to the book (Emmett, gotta love him!)

I'll come back to give my thoughts when I'm done.

 

[Mischief_Managed]

Okay, this thread needs a bump. I'm not completely finished with the book, but happened upon spoilers, so I know the ending, generally speaking.

I'm enjoying it. I just knew that Bella was going to get pregnant on the honeymoon. I just wish I put it in writing before. I was wishing that her superpower would be something to do with seeing the truth about everything. That is what I thought many of her dreams did for her. (like the one where Edwards a vampire or the one where she realizes that Jacobs a wearwolf). I guess the power is cool, even though I haven't actually read that part. I also think there are some really funny parts to the book (Emmett, gotta love him!)

I'll come back to give my thoughts when I'm done.

Hi there! I see you found the thread. That's crummy about knowing the spoilers. Hopefully, it won't detract from your read too much!

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

A very insightful interview with Stephenie.

http://www.ew.com/ew/video/exclusives?lineupId=1155151521&videoId=1717903074

 

[Mischief_Managed]

This is the shirt from Hot Topic:

Thanks for posting this! Too bad I don't actually like the poster pic.

 

[mla1977]

Hi there! I see you found the thread. That's crummy about knowing the spoilers. Hopefully, it won't detract from your read too much!

Yup! I made it here. I don't really mind the spoilers. I just finished reading about Charlie meeting the baby. Kind of reminds me of my dad.

I almost feel like the spoilers are adding to my enjoyment. I don't think I would be freaking out the way some people are, but I think I might have been disappointe in parts. I've got to assemble my 8x8 tonihgt, so no more reading until that is done. DBF will be out tomorrow at a bachelor party so I have the entire night to finish the book. I'm such a slow reader...

I also joined Team Twilight on Ravelry for the Ravelympics. I'll be starting that project tomorrow!

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

Just so you guys can see all the crazyness going on at LJ:
http://community.livejournal.com/lion_lamb/1693899.html
I loved that community, now I'm starting to hate it. It seems like the moderaters all hate the book and seem to side with those that do, even when they are in the wrong. -_-

 

[zagafi]

Wow, that just...sucked. The others I enjoyed so much that I read each in a single night, so for three nights in a row I was a busy girl. This one was a CHORE to finish--it was like a completely different author had taken over. Everything was just so pat and predictable and just...lame.

And "Renesmee"? Seriously? GAG.

Damn. I'm really disappointed. I tried reading "The Host", too, and I just CANNOT get myself to care about it at all. Oh, Stephanie. What happened??

 

[Jennasis]

J It seems like the moderaters all hate the book and seem to side with those that do, even when they are in the wrong. -_-

Ummm..nobody can be WRONG in their personal opinion of a book. Or are you referring to something else?

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

Ummm..nobody can be WRONG in their personal opinion of a book. Or are you referring to something else?

No, no. I agree with that. I'm refering to nasty comments, sometimes insulting other members of the community. I don't really care about the opinions of anyone, they're opinions. It's just the offensive comments that bother me.

 

[golfgirl3613]

I finished BD on Wednesday, and I liked it. I admit like some others that I read the last few pages first, kind of like Billy Crystal in When Harry Met Sally! I had to know that Bella and Edward ended up together, and both as vampires.

First off, I need to really read it again to get the detail I am sure I missed the first time through.

Second, I did like it, but didn't love, love, love it, like Twilight, but I am satisfied.

Thirdly, I think making Jacob and the others shapeshifters is a very smart idea because this makes them true heroes who at some point chose to become something that would help the whole, rather than be selfish. Plus, as us freaky comic/myth fans know, true werewolves are bad to the core. So, therefore, Jacob is good enough to imprint on Reneseme.

Last, as for the "Little Nudger", I am glad that a piece of Bella and Edward will live on, in a hybrid version of the pair, my only question is, "Was she potty trained at birth?". If so, I want one too!

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

LOL! Potty trained at birth! I love that!
And I do love the Little Nudger, she is one amazing girl.

 

[RUDisney]

LOL! Potty trained at birth! I love that!
And I do love the Little Nudger, she is one amazing girl.

I figure that at birth, she was drinking blood and there is no need for a vampire to eliminate. By the time she started eating human food, she was smart enough to take care of business on her own.... at least that's how I took it.

 

[hulagirl87]

I just finished right now. I know! It took me a whole week to read. Darn work! There were definitely parts that I liked, but then there were parts that I didn't. There was a time that I thought that Jacob was going to die. I'm glad that didn't happen! The whole pregnancy was pretty gruesome and I thought to myself that Stephanie Meyer must have a pretty vivid imagination to think this stuff up!

I liked being wrapped up in a series like this. I'm sad to see the books end, but am looking forward to the movie! Twilight was by far my favorite book in the series.

 

[NMAmy]

Okay, I'd been avoiding this thread until I had a chance to read the book and then I couldn't find the thread.

I must say that I liked Breaking Dawn. In fact, I liked it better than any of the others. I just wasn't a huge fan--particularly of Bella. I didn't really think she was a great role model for teenage girls. I read the books because my dd recommended them--but by the time she'd gotten to the second book, she was feeling much the same way about Bella. I do think the books have had some interesting plots which is why I continued on with them and also because I wanted to be able to discuss them with dd.

But in this book, she really came into her own. She grew up so I didn't have to spend so much of my time rolling my eyes at everything she said and did. I loved that instead of always having to be protected, she was actually able to protect the others. And while I didn't find the birth scene to be particularly gruesome, I did hate the name Renesme with a passion. Good heavens.

 

[jamimb]

Okay, I'd been avoiding this thread until I had a chance to read the book and then I couldn't find the thread.

I must say that I liked Breaking Dawn. In fact, I liked it better than any of the others. I just wasn't a huge fan--particularly of Bella. I didn't really think she was a great role model for teenage girls. I read the books because my dd recommended them--but by the time she'd gotten to the second book, she was feeling much the same way about Bella. I do think the books have had some interesting plots which is why I continued on with them and also because I wanted to be able to discuss them with dd.

But in this book, she really came into her own. She grew up so I didn't have to spend so much of my time rolling my eyes at everything she said and did. I loved that instead of always having to be protected, she was actually able to protect the others. And while I didn't find the birth scene to be particularly gruesome, I did hate the name Renesme with a passion. Good heavens.

I am not coming down on you at all, everyone is entitled to thier own opinion but I have never understood why so many have said that Bella was not a good role model for teenage girls. I personally love her and saw her as the hero all along. Alot of 17 yr old girls I know(or have known) are so vindictive and talk about selfish. Bella was so selfless to go to Forks ( a place she hated by the way) just so her mom could travel with her new husband.She cared enough about Charlie to take care of him and cook for him everyday instead of the regular stupid teenage stuff like texting your friends all night long. Lets not forget how brave she was in Twilight to ditch Alice and Jasper to go off on her own to rescue her mom. (albeit stupid though) In New moon when she jetted off to Italy to try to save Edward with no real thought for her own life. I could list a million other instances where to me she was a good example to others. I would rather my children possess those qualities than some of the others that she lacked. I really did see her as the hero all along just constrained by her human form so it was no surprise to me when she ended up saving them all in the end. To me it was always about her saving others.

 

[Terry36]

Whew - I just finished the book last night! It was a LONNNG book, strange at times but a nice ending. I will read the posts to this thread later.

 

[NMAmy]

I am not coming down on you at all, everyone is entitled to thier own opinion but I have never understood why so many have said that Bella was not a good role model for teenage girls. I personally love her and saw her as the hero all along. Alot of 17 yr old girls I know(or have known) are so vindictive and talk about selfish. Bella was so selfless to go to Forks ( a place she hated by the way) just so her mom could travel with her new husband.She cared enough about Charlie to take care of him and cook for him everyday instead of the regular stupid teenage stuff like texting your friends all night long. Lets not forget how brave she was in Twilight to ditch Alice and Jasper to go off on her own to rescue her mom. (albeit stupid though) In New moon when she jetted off to Italy to try to save Edward with no real thought for her own life. I could list a million other instances where to me she was a good example to others. I would rather my children possess those qualities than some of the others that she lacked. I really did see her as the hero all along just constrained by her human form so it was no surprise to me when she ended up saving them all in the end. To me it was always about her saving others.

We'll have to agree to disagree and I know you're not alone in your opinion. In an effort not to offend those that love the books, I was sort of vague in my reasoning but since you asked. Besides the fact that Bella is passive and indecisive, wimpy, and does stupid things (see your example above), I got extremely annoyed that when Edward left, she cut off all contact with everyone, stopped eating, and generally moped around because she'd lost her "soulmate." That is, until another boy, Jacob, came along. Then she had a reason to live again and perked right up--everything was fantastic because she had another boy to live for. I've taught my dd that she doesn't need a boy to survive and she can take care of herself. If a boy leaves, it is not the end of the world, and it is preferable to pick yourself up and move on with your life--not just give up and try to die from lack of that boy.