Born Again Christians Thread-No Bashing please

[Albertan mom]

Zippedeedoodah- Are you a pastor? For what denomination? Any other pastors out there?

And 8:30am for church? That is the earliest church time I have ever heard of! We start at 10:30. End at 12:00-12:15.

I am excited about church tomorrow, we have a guest speaker. He is a friend of ours, sits on the school board with me, and is a political leader in our area. It is always interesting to hear him mix government and religion!

Does your churches do DVBS? This year we are doing "5 days around Gods world" and are focusing on missions. Should be fun. I have been the snack lady for the last few years, love to feed the kids some good junk food!

 

[Otto's Doll]

Yes, our contemporary service begins at 8:30 and goes until 10am. The Traditional service begins at 10:30am and goes until 11:45 or so. (We belong to a Presbyterian Church (PCUSA).) I enjoy both services, DH likes the Traditional one, so if just I go, it is early and if we all go, it is to the Traditional service.
Yes, our Vacation Bible School starts Monday. We are doing Good News Clues this year. I am the secretary at our church, so I won't be officially helping with VBS, but I will be doing alot of behind the scenes stuff. My DH is the church sexton, so he will be doing lots of clean up this week!

 

[Otto's Doll]

Our church also has classes for 3 - adult during the school year, btw. I belong to the Ladies class, and both my kids are very involved with class and with Youth Group as well.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I dont want it to become a place where people argue and fight with each other and I think you are out of line with your comments inferring that someone is being un christian. as the OP I will be forced to ask people to leave if they dont obey the RULES OF THE THREAD !! I think you are a good person so please go easy.

Not to be confrontational...but only the mods have the power to enforce such a rule as poster do not own the board or the threads they post. I think at most, all you can do is report a post....or ignore a poster. They don't have to "leave" unless by force of the mods and it would have to be something more blatant than ignoring rules for a thread--they would have to be breaking the posting rules of the entire DIS.

I had the "rules of my thread" broken once--and people kept coming on and being disrespectful. All I could do was ask it to be closed.

 

[bytheblood]

Many things are sins; eating shellfish is one of them. Being the modern day, is this still viewed as a sin or as a warning to the people of that time over the unhealthy ramifications of eating such a food when cleanliness was NOT the new black?

Rich::

Eating Shellfish is not a sin for Christians. That is OT law, which does not apply under the Covenant of Christ. That was old Covenant law.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

We are at 8:45am mass tomorrow.

Girls missed VBS--in our area..most are held in June. July is the big vacation month and August is back to school.

We had a wedding--and hubby and I didn't like the idea of only going to part of the VBS .

 

[dcentity2000]

Eating Shellfish is not a sin for Christians. That is OT law, which does not apply under the Covenant of Christ. That was old Covenant law.

Fairy nuff



Rich::

 

[bytheblood]

Just a note.........

There is only one truth in many beliefs. Five people witness a car accident and give their own account of what they witnessed. There may be 5 different stories told with some major differences in their belief of what happened, but there is only one truth.

You may not believe that Jesus is God and you may believe that only what you believe will happen to you and what happens to Christians when we die is based upon what we believe, but there is only one truth.

I will continue to pray for those who are lost that truth finds them and sets them free.

In Love - Peace out!
bytheblood (we are saved. There is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood)

 

[acrucifer]

Not to be confrontational...but only the mods have the power to enforce such a rule as poster do not own the board or the threads they post. I think at most, all you can do is report a post....or ignore a poster. They don't have to "leave" unless by force of the mods and it would have to be something more blatant than ignoring rules for a thread--they would have to be breaking the posting rules of the entire DIS.

I had the "rules of my thread" broken once--and people kept coming on and being disrespectful. All I could do was ask it to be closed.

I wont close it, as that would be a victory for evil. however, I will all I can to have the offenders removed and posts taken down. I will pursue all options.

 

[Grandma Bear]

I will be attending church tomorrow. POur pastor has been preaching on the entire book of Judges. We start at 10:30 and g to 12:15 usually. There are Sunday School classs. We also have an adult Bible study class before church.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I wont close it, as that would be a victory for evil. however, I will all I can to have the offenders removed and posts taken down. I will pursue all options.

not certain your litmus test for offense..

 

[LukenDC]

as the OP I will be forced to ask people to leave if they dont obey the RULES OF THE THREAD !!

This is a public message board with one set of rules established by the owners of the DIS. If you are uncomfortable welcoming comments and questions from the general membership of the DIS, then perhaps you should consider a more exclusive venue.

Since one of the goals of this thread is to witness to others, I find it strange that you are unwelcoming to people who come here out of curiosity. When people consider or explore a new topic, it is common for them to ask questions and to weigh the pros and cons. If your religious faith cannot withstand routine questioning, then it must not be very strong.

A Curious Heathen

 

[WDWHound]

A suggestion, if I may. Perhaps we should stop worrying about all the issues that have cropped up here recently (and yes, I have had a role in that) and just return to talking about being Christians. I think that if we do that, the rest will take care of itself.

As for Zippy's question, I will actually attend 2 services tomorrow. I normally attend the 11:00 service becuase I sing in the Chior, but one of my fellow lay speakers is going to be giving a sermon from the Pulpit for the first time at our 9:30 contemporary service, and I want to be there to support her. On a side note, My turn comes next week when I give the sermon for the 11 oclock traditional service. (Both of us are filling in for our minister, who is on vacation for most of July.)

 

[phillybeth]

Since one of the goals of this thread is to witness to others, I find it strange that you are unwelcoming to people who come here out of curiosity.

MTE. Although I am an atheist and freely admit it, I have always and will always be respectful to the beliefs of others (and I expect that same courtesy in return but that is a different topic). I am curious and even a bit envious of those with strong faith, as it is not something that has ever come easily to me in my life.

 

[ead79]

actually, it beyond simple questions and nobody asked her to leave. I posted a general post, naming noone and asked respectfully for people to remember to purpose for this thread I began. 1) to fellowship, 2) to witness 3) to provide testimony to others. It is not to debate or discuss heathens, jewish dietary laws or to confront Born again Christians about some need to prove their faith. If one cant live with these rules, then start your own thread, find another to threat to post the posts that arent appropriate here. I am sorry if this seems direct or unkind, but posters here are getting out of hand, so I do what I have to do. everyone please continue enjoying the thread. thanks.

Buckalew is correct that she is not the only person bothered by your comments here in the above quoted post. While I completely understand your desire to create a thread where Christians can fellowship without having to defend all their beliefs, I don't think I understand what else you are OK with us discussing. I just don't see what is wrong with discussing dietary restrictions, the old covenant and the new covenant, etc. I see all these things as parts of Christianity and its heritage. I am afraid that you are becoming too restrictive, though I believe I understand what you're trying to get at. Please consider loosening up what you think is OK to post here so that we can fellowship without an overly restrictive environment. Not every Christian is going to agree on every little detail of the faith. I thought the goal of this thread was to bring about fellowship for people who are born again Christians, not expect everyone to agree about every detail of the faith. I don't mean this offensively at all, just trying to explain my viewpoint.

 

[Albertan mom]

Hello friends

I want to recommend a great devotion book that I have been doing. There are so many devotionals that I have done, but this has been the best, and I have gotten the most out of it. It is called "Women of the Bible". By Ann Spangler and Jean E. Syswerda.
It goes through 52 different women of the bible from Eve, Delilah, Naomi, Sarah, Gomer, The woman of Endor, Anna, The Queen of Sheba, Martha, to Proverbs 31 woman.
The format is-
Monday: Her story-tells the backround of the woman (1-2 pages-5-8 minutes)

Tuesday:Her Life and Times-tells about something about that time (childbirth, burial,bathing,food, worship,gleaning,famine, etc..-very interesting) (1 page-6 minutes)

Wednesday:Her Legacy in scripture-looking up the bible story and answering around 8 questions (1 page-takes about 15-30 minutes)

Thursday:Her Promise-How God helped her (1/2 page-4 minutes)

Friday-Her Legacy of Prayer-Reflecting on her, Lifting your heart in prayer (1-1 1/2pages-5-8 minutes)

Saturday and Sunday-off!

There is actually a mans version too that I bought my hubby, and he is enjoying it (even though he is only on Abel!!)

I am on Rizpah right now... Just wanted to suggest it, as I know sometimes our devotional lives can get mundane and a little boring....

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

A.M., I am a pastor in The United Methodist Church. My wife and I co-pastor a church in NC. FWIW, I enjoy the discourse and input from persons of other faiths (or non-faiths as the case may be). As a Christian I am certain of my beliefs, but conversation has its place. I look forward to see how God is going to move among us (congregation where I will worship) in the morning. Have a blessed Sunday, all.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Question here--saw it on the Ouija Board thread (question is not about that)....so I will ask here instead of turning that into a debate. I'm not interested in debating--just the thought process behind.....

Why is something like Harry Potter so bad....it is fantasy--it is fake. Just like Disney world and its fantasy elements (Sword in the Stone, Black Cauldron...and the head mouse himself in Fantasia)...what is so bad about it that it has to be restricted according to your faith? How does exposing yourself to fiction cause a conflict with your faith if it does conflict?

Also--what about "entertainment" magic--like David Copperfield? Is that off limits too when it is mostly slight of hand and visual tricks?

Not going to debate you--just looking for POV explanations.

TIA!

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

As for Harry Potter books/movies, there does seem to be such a fuss over how it is "evil" because it deals with wizards and such. It seems kind of funny to me since I grew up reading Lord of the Rings books (full of wizards and mysthical creatures). IMO Harry Potter won't rot your brain or rob your soul.

 

[WDWHound]

Question here--saw it on the Ouija Board thread (question is not about that)....so I will ask here instead of turning that into a debate. I'm not interested in debating--just the thought process behind.....

Why is something like Harry Potter so bad....it is fantasy--it is fake. Just like Disney world and its fantasy elements (Sword in the Stone, Black Cauldron...and the head mouse himself in Fantasia)...what is so bad about it that it has to be restricted according to your faith? How does exposing yourself to fiction cause a conflict with your faith if it does conflict?

Also--what about "entertainment" magic--like David Copperfield? Is that off limits too when it is mostly slight of hand and visual tricks?

Not going to debate you--just looking for POV explanations.

TIA!

I have no more problem with Harry Potter than I have with the Wizard of Oz. Its just fiction, and as long as no one tries to make it more than that (which, ironically, those who oppose it sometimes do), there is nothing wrong with it IMHO.
As for stage Magic, I have always veiwed that as a puzzle to be solved. I don't think it is expected to be perceived as real magic.