Bonnet Creek Question

[kansas_visitors]

A friend of mine told me that they are going to WDW and asked me for some information. I thought that meant she wanted info about resorts as well and asked her what type of resort she wanted to stay in.

She said, We already made reservations at Bonnet Creek timeshare. I said, "oh, I didn't know you were staying off site." She said, No, it's onsite, it's the only timeshare right on Disney's property.

I didn't know there was timeshare on property. Is this true? Can anyone tell me anything about Bonnet Creek or where it is at.

Thanks in advance!

 

[TotoToo]

While the property it sits on is not owned by Disney all three sides of it border Disney, you use Disney roads to get in & out so for all intents it is on property.

That doesn't mean you'll get the so called perks that true Disney on site guests do - most aren't of much value anyway although a few are OK. Bonnet Creek does much to duplicate the features but, again, its not "Disney". You are actually closer to Disney attractions than you would be at many Disney resorts. You also get bigger units, nicer amenities and lower costs than all things Disney. Overall it may be the best of all worlds for a Disney visit. The best of on and off site.

 

[tothesea]

Does any part of Bonnet Creek allow pets?

 

[Janet Hill]

Does any part of Bonnet Creek allow pets?

No

 

[cnids00]

While making dining reservations for our upcoming trip the CM asked which resort we were staying at, I said off-site and she asked where..when I said Bonnet Creek, she said Oh, we have Bonnet Creek in our system...I was surprised to hear that! I guess they added it even if not a Disney resort but just on their property?

 

[utahkennedys]

Disney has all of the surrounding resorts "in their system" which just means they probably have a drop down menu listing the resorts so they don't re-type them in over and over...Bonnet Creeks is NOT Disney, no matter what people try to say!

 

[cnids00]

I know Bonnet Creek isn't Disney, it's Wyndham but on Disney property I just didn't know they had them in the system when making dining reservations. So instead of saying offsite when they ask where we're staying I can just say BC

 

[Maistre Gracey]

She said, No, it's onsite, it's the only timeshare right on Disney's property.

I didn't know there was timeshare on property.

I offer this information simply to give correct info to the OP and any lurkers, not to be a pain in the butt...

Just the facts-
There is indeed only one timeshare on Disney property, but it's not Bonnet Creek. The on site timeshare is Disney Vacation Club.

While the Bonnet Creek Resort may be very nice, spacious, and luxurious, for all practical purposes it's an off site resort.
Ther's no Magical Express, Disney transportation to the parks, Extra Magic Hours, Dining Plan, resort package delivery, room charging, or free parking at the parks.

Again, I've only heard good things about Bonnet Creek.
I just wanted to make folks aware that on site benefits do not come with this resort.

MG

 

[swilphil]

FYI: You can get some good deals on Bonnet Creek on e-bay or other websites where you rent timeshare stays. Much cheaper and much better nicer accommodations than DVC.

We stayed there at Christmas and even at the busy time, it was easy to get to the resorts. They do have a shuttle system that you have to reserve the night before. We had a rental car, too. It's an extremely quick drive to DTD, MK and Epcot, as well as easy access to offsite grocery store and other attractions. We will be staying at Bonnet Creek again.

The pres. suite, where the in-laws stayed, was absolutely stunning. Great view of the Epcot fireworks every night!

 

[Brian Noble]

Nothing gets DVC owners riled up quite like calling BC an "on site timeshare".



In addition to not being Disney-owned, and not providing any Disney-owned perks, the land technically is not part of RCID (commonly thought of as "Disney-owned property") either. It is lanlocked by RCID on three sides, and I-4 on the fourth; the only access is through RCID land.

But, it's location does tweak Disney enough that they saw fit to put a 3D billboard literally across the street from the entrance: "Disney Vacation Club, Vacation Ownership with Character" so that BC owners/visitors would be able to have their noses rubbed in their outsider-ness every time they left the resort!

Edited to add: if it were in RCID, then the owners there would collectively have a voting interest in the "government" that runs the District, and is owned by Disney lock stock and barrel. This is in part why DVC is a leasehold, and not a deeded-ownership timeshare system---otherwise, DVC owners would collectively have a voting interest as well. This is also why the new upscale timeshare units and vacation homes on the northeast corner were de-annexed from RCID.

As a Wyndham/Fairfield owner, I'm okay with being an Outsider---for about 1/4 the price with a great location.

 

[5boyz]

Has anyone ever stayed here and if so did you like it? I remember seeing this summer when we were there and never heard of it before. I just seen it posted here and thought I would ask about it .....looking for somewhere new to stay next year. Thanks!!!

 

[cnids00]

We're only trying this out as DH's work friend owns in Wyndham and we are renting his points, also there was a pres.suite available for our stay which is th biggest perk to us 8 going. Now, DH, me and DD12 have been only onsite before and will totally miss the transportation for real but trying this gives it a new perspective and maybe finally being able to take the time to go to SW this time.

Can't beat paying $500 per week per family for the 4br suite!


Soon we'll actualy be there and can get back into our Happy place

 

[crazymama]

So, I am very uninformed about timeshare resorts. If you stay at BC are you obligated to sit through a timeshare talk or is that if you book a special rate etc? We like the look of BC but I really don't want to do a presentation. Do they bug you in the lobby etc? I just don't know how this stuff works?

 

[Brian Noble]

If you are renting from an owner, no you do not have to attend a sales pitch. You will be invited to one, perhaps more than once, but you can always say no.

Wyndham does sell getaway packages that include hotel stays and/or tickets at very low prices in exchange for tour attendance. However, part of Wyndham's strategy is to put you up in a nice-but-not-luxurious hotel, but generally not the timeshare unit. That way, it is easier for the sales rep to encourage you to compare and contrast "staying in a hotel" with "vacation ownership," and to thus create a better value perception. Generally, for Wyndham promotional packages, you cannot stay in the resort itself.

 

[TotoToo]

We're only trying this out as DH's work friend owns in Wyndham and we are renting his points, also there was a pres.suite available for our stay which is th biggest perk to us 8 going. Now, DH, me and DD12 have been only onsite before and will totally miss the transportation for real but trying this gives it a new perspective and maybe finally being able to take the time to go to SW this time.

Can't beat paying $500 per week per family for the 4br suite!


Soon we'll actualy be there and can get back into our Happy place

Why would you "miss" the transportation? The only difference is rather than taking the round about routes that the "genuine" Disney buses take from the resorts you get a direct route to Ticket/Transportation from the Wyndham bus. After that you are on the exact same Disney transportation system either way. The only other transportation you give up is the Magical Express which, since it locks us into being only on Disney property with no escape since we don't have a car - the actual reason for that system - we wouldn't miss it as we would never go to Orlando without a car rental. They are dirt cheap so why not have a way to get where you want when you want?

The fact that Wyndham got a location on what amounts to on site really does bother Disney and those who paid the big $$ to get in DVC. They own nothing but a obligation to pay a high annual fee for XX more years while Wyndham builds a nicer resort right on the grounds. The cost to buy and OWN, not rent RTU as DVC does, the property is 1/4 of DVC on resale and fees are 2/3 of DVC or less. I can see why they would be upset but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy being within the gatres at a very low cost.

 

[5boyz]

Does anyone have any knowlegde of prices for Bonnet Creek?

 

[TotoToo]

Does anyone have any knowlegde of prices for Bonnet Creek?

Basically the same as all Wyndham timeshares in the Fairshare Plus points system. Retail (bought form the developer on site) you would pay about $.15 per point deeded at BC and you'd want at least 208,000 to 300,000 points - could be as high as $45,000 (but they WILL negotiate the price even at retail). You'll also pay about $750-$850 annual fees depending on the amount of points purchased. Buying retail is NOT a recommended approach.

Conversely you can buy resale Wyndham Fairshare Points, deeded at BC or any other Wyndham resort, for $.03 or less per point. Fees will vary depending on the exact home resort the points are based at. Even with the full 300,000 points at the higher end of $.03 per point (and plenty are out there at $.02 or less although they might not have BC as the home resort) $9000. Sound better? Unless you want the home resort priority (13 months to make your reservation request vs 10 months for all non-home resorts) you don't need to buy FSP based at BC - buy the most of the most inexpensive points you can find and "spend" them at BC along with the 100+ other Wyndham resorts. It is a great system and purchased resale a great value. Purchased retail it is close to a consumer ripoff so don't even consider a retail purchase at any Wyndham resort - not even Bonnet Creek.

 

[5boyz]

Ooops sorry I meant just to stay there for 2 weeks....lol. I seen it when we were there this year. We stayed at POP but would like to stay somewhere else so thought maybe this would be nice. So just to book for 2 weeks.

Thanks!

 

[TotoToo]

Ooops sorry I meant just to stay there for 2 weeks....lol. I seen it when we were there this year. We stayed at POP but would like to stay somewhere else so thought maybe this would be nice. So just to book for 2 weeks.

Thanks!

Ah - you don't want to buy. Sorry.

Rental prices are all over the map. Most owners are going to want to cover their annual fees plus some profit so I'd venture $800-$1000 / week in a two bedroom. Still a nice savings over Disney hotel prices for much more space.

But you also may find deals on the many rental sites or a steep discount for agreeing to a sales pitch (make SURE they are placing you at the resort not some hotel if you do that type of special.) In any case it's a great resort and can be found for rent.

 

[5boyz]

ToToToo Thank you. That is a better price for what you get.