Bombshell Obama Pastor Video

[punkin]

Every time one gets a credit on their taxes the cost of that item increases. This is just a way for the taxpayer to transfer money to big business.

What else is new...oh yeah, Obama was supposed to change politics, wasn't he?

 

[CPT Tripss]

racism=The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.


I'd say suggesting Hillary Clinton is less qualified to be President because she ain't been called no "racial expletive" fits the bill pretty well.

No, that line is not racist either by your definition or by mine. It's ugly, that's for sure. It's out of context, so I won't try to read a lot into it.

That said, might it mean she hasn't walked in the same shoes and experienced the same hatred that a lot of Americans have experienced? Of course, she has experienced her share of hatred directed at her by people of the same gender and color . . . but that's another thread.

 

[CathrynRose]

I don't see it.....He was just stating the truth....
The white man has always controlled the power and the money in this country...Blacks are still discriminated....and he was stating how
"hillary" or any white person for that matter....wouldn't have any idea how much racism is still alive.
Why is that so bad to say....when it is just a fact.
Kerri

Exactly! Seriously, it's so laughable that people think that blacks aren't pulled over by cops for the color of their skin in this country, or cabs pass them by, or are still called the "n" word by bigots. Well, it would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

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I am SICK and TIRED of reading this. Sick of it. You know why? Because I have a Tattoo'ed, Long Hair'd, Pierced husband - who just within the outskirts of the DIS has been called a slew of names, including Skaggy, Heroin Addict - I can go on, let me know if you need me too... (so we've got the name calling)

This being said - when he initially moved in with me into Foo-Foo Rich, White suburbs - he was pulled over ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME! All the time. Daily. Its been the past few years, they 'recognize him' and havent bothered him - but DAILY, for years, it occured. (so we've got the pulled over)

I discussed this with a few friends of mine, who are black ( I know, a republican with black friends...crazy! ) and they saw my point.

MUCH of this has nothing to do with color, it has to do with 'class' and what 'class' you appear to fit into. I have plenty of blacks in my town....driving BMW's. The pull Jim over cuz he looks like a hoodlum, and they pull some black people over cuz they look like hoodlums. Theres no denying they pull over for no reason - but it is NOT just blacks.

 

[lovetomow]

After all these pages the moral of the story is it's okay to be a racist and walk in the same group with a racist if your black.

Oh yeah, one more qualifier for the above to be true! Anyone care to guess?






















You also have to be a democrat!

 

[CPT Tripss]

You must not have seen the other clips of him putting down America. One of his lines was that people should not say "God Bless America" but should instead say "God D*** America".

I don't think anyone on here is denying there is racism against black people, of course there is and it is horrible that there is. The pastor's clips go way beyond that though.

Actually, there are more than a couple of people we all know that assert that the USA is past racism and that it's only an isolated phenomenon.

 

[afcgirl]

Actually, there are more than a couple of people we all know that assert that the USA is past racism and that it's only an isolated phenomenon.

Well I don't agree with those who believe that the USA as past racism, but I do believe racism is isolated and I think it is greatly exaggerated by the pastor at least with respect to current times. The number of white people who have voted for Obama to me supports this.

 

[JPN4265]

Obama, can't hide forever. Over the next few months the truth will come out, and he will be seen for the rascist that he really is.

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

Well Condi....is Bush's puppet. I know there are black people who are in gov't....that dosen't mean they have any real power.
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thats disgustingly patronizing. She's an incredibly talented, intelligent, and strong woman...to suggest she's anyone's "puppet" with no factual basis for doing so it a low blow.

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

Well, when he gets elected, more people will be able to afford higher education. That $4000 credit and easier financial aid application will open a lot more doors for a lot more kids.



Carry on with the outrage....

you do realize 4k is only about 1/10 of the cost of Harvard for a year?

and of course not to mention what everyone else said about tuition going up as a result of this anyways...

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

No, that line is not racist either by your definition or by mine. It's ugly, that's for sure. It's out of context, so I won't try to read a lot into it.
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let me dial this back. It IS racism...

Wright suggested she is less qualified to be president because she has never been called a racial expletive, she has never been called a racial expletive because she is white.

therefore on the basis of just skin color, Barack Obama is superiorly qualified to be President...thats what we call racism.

 

[MyManGoofy!]

I posted this on the Hillary support thread, but then saw this one and thought I would post it here also. Just my two cents.

For Cripes Sake! This has nothing to do with religion!!!

This is not an argument about what this man said about the Gospel, or Jesus or even about any other religion. The topic he is ranting about is entirely secular but just happens to take place in the church. Which is entirely inappropriate - no matter what religion you are.

This is a huge problem for Obama - not because he attends the church - but because he has elevated this preacher to a position of influence over his life and decisions outside of the church. 20 years is a very long time to simply shake your head and benignly disagree with such a divisive message.

Seriously - is there anything that Obama can do that his supporters would not defend? If I had found out that Hillary had attended a church that preached white power from the pulpit - I would drop my support of her like a hot potato even if she just sat through one sermon - let alone 20 years of it.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Add Michael Steele and JC Watts to the list, the list is long but then, they won't count because they are "conservatives".

OK (no pun intended Sooner fans) - we're using JC Watts, the last black Republican Congressman and one of only two since the 1920s.

He was frequently in conflict with the Congressional leadership (in part because of his conflicts with them and his aspirations for a leadership position) and that may have led to his decision not to seek reelection.

 

[CPT Tripss]

McCain is an Episcopalian I believe, (Catholic light). I am sure that if he were hearing anti American, hate filled, campaigning from the pulpit, it would have been on the front page of the NYT.

There is some question about that. He is Episcopalian by baptism, he has stated he is a Baptist . . . I'm fairly sure he attends a Baptist church.

 

[CathrynRose]

I posted this on the Hillary support thread, but then saw this one and thought I would post it here also. Just my two cents.

THANK YOU!

and this nails it:

Seriously - is there anything that Obama can do that his supporters would not defend? If I had found out that Hillary had attended a church that preached white power from the pulpit - I would drop my support of her like a hot potato even if she just sat through one sermon - let alone 20 years of it.

If it came to light John McCain was getting his spiritual advice from a KKK member, after being married by him and baptising the kiddo's - I'd be appauled, disgusted and freaked the heck out.

This wishy washy 'well, do you agree with everything your friends/boss/doctors believe in' is absurd.

 

[CPT Tripss]

I am SICK and TIRED of reading this. Sick of it. You know why? Because I have a Tattoo'ed, Long Hair'd, Pierced husband - who just within the outskirts of the DIS has been called a slew of names, including Skaggy, Heroin Addict - I can go on, let me know if you need me too... (so we've got the name calling)

This being said - when he initially moved in with me into Foo-Foo Rich, White suburbs - he was pulled over ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME! All the time. Daily. Its been the past few years, they 'recognize him' and havent bothered him - but DAILY, for years, it occured. (so we've got the pulled over)

I discussed this with a few friends of mine, who are black ( I know, a republican with black friends...crazy! ) and they saw my point.

MUCH of this has nothing to do with color, it has to do with 'class' and what 'class' you appear to fit into. I have plenty of blacks in my town....driving BMW's. The pull Jim over cuz he looks like a hoodlum, and they pull some black people over cuz they look like hoodlums. Theres no denying they pull over for no reason - but it is NOT just blacks.

Cops are judgemental and they do profile beyond race. But there is an important difference. Jim had a choice of how he looks. Young black professionals driving upscale cars who get pulled over for DWB did not.

 

[bumcat]

I remember Oprah once saying: Show me your friends, and I'll show you you.

 

[salmoneous]

Seriously - is there anything that Obama can do that his supporters would not defend?

When Obama does something inappropriate, let us know. If it has something to do with the job he will do as president, I'll care. In the meantime, all Obama has done as far as this thread is concerned is "attend church".

But, hey, if you want to try and get folks to overlook how Obama and McCain stand on the issues and what they wants to do as president, I don't blame you. If that's what people use to choose their candidate, I suspect Obama wins in a landslide.

Meanwhile, have fun getting all upset about what some guy who isn't running for president has to say.

 

[CPT Tripss]

I wonder how much of the reason that this is such a hot topic is that Pastor Wright started out from a position of Jesus as a poor black man in a country run by rich white men?

So many Christians see this "portrait" of Jesus -http://spiritlessons.com/Documents/Jesus_Pictures/Jesus_070.jpg
- in their church every week.

Maybe we can't get beyond that?

 

[Laura]

I wonder how much of the reason that this is such a hot topic is that Pastor Wright started out from a position of Jesus as a poor black man in a country run by rich white men?

So many Christians see this "portrait" of Jesus -http://spiritlessons.com/Documents/Jesus_Pictures/Jesus_070.jpg
- in their church every week.

Maybe we can't get beyond that?

A lot of people were upset by this image of Jesus:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282186.html

 

[CathrynRose]

Meanwhile, have fun getting all upset about what some guy who isn't running for president has to say.

Youre right - he just spiritual advises one.