Blue Card decision for Poly, Copper Creek, or VDH?

[VGCgroupie]

If I go into contract for VDH, but straddling the next incentive cycle, will I have Blue Card benefits and lounge access while at DLR? I will be there for race weekend Feb 1st.

Will they announce the next incentives before February 9?

Yes you get benefits the day you sign the purchase contract.

 

[airjay75]

Except that VDH owners have an approved plan by the city of Anaheim after a multiyear push by Disney to get approval for Disneyland Forward to build more theme parks.

Also, because Disney only has so much land in Anaheim…. there are only so many places they can build.

To me that is not in be same universe as RIV owners who have to look forward to…. the Skyliner maybe going to Disney Springs someday….

I think BCV and BWV expiring in 2042 is the more certain event that has the potential to impact RIV resale prices. Who knows whether it will, but that is a pretty certain event.

But, regardless, I wouldn’t personally buy any of PVB, RIV, or VDH based on potential resale value 20+ years from now. I’d say, don’t buy unless you’re ok with a zero value. If I were betting money, I’d bet on PVB > VDH > RIV, but I wouldn’t bet much money on any of them.

 

[Makai]

Yes, if you do your initial paperwork but don't make the final deposit then you can straddle the two incentive cycles and pick which one is best for you. The DVC-Y status card appeared just hours after I committed.

The next incentives are released February 10, but people usually report them here late on the night before.

That would be really cool if this works out, but I might be a day too early on my trip dates to sign docs for lounge access. My final night at DLH is February 1st with a park reservation at Disneyland, so would I need to put it in contract that morning to stay within the 10 day straddle window? Since Feb 1 is a Sunday, not sure if my guide is even able to do that.

 

[juliebee]

That would be really cool if this works out, but I might be a day too early on my trip dates to sign docs for lounge access. My final night at DLH is February 1st with a park reservation at Disneyland, so would I need to put it in contract that morning to stay within the 10 day straddle window? Since Feb 1 is a Sunday, not sure if my guide is even able to do that.

Since I knew I was purchasing, I already had them do up the contract, signed, and made a payment deposit. If the next incentives are better, my guide committed to rewriting the contract to the new deal. The 10 day window is if you plan to back out entirely, I suppose.

 

[Makai]

Since I knew I was purchasing, I already had them do up the contract, signed, and made a payment deposit. If the next incentives are better, my guide committed to rewriting the contract to the new deal. The 10 day window is if you plan to back out entirely, I suppose.

Thank you! I didn’t realize I could sign for this right now, before the next incentives are released, and still switch over to them in February. I would not back out entirely, but just switch to the new incentive deal if it’s better. My guide told me to wait until February (but before the price increase), but maybe that was to save on a month of annual dues.

 

[intamin]

Thank you! I didn’t realize I could sign for this right now, before the next incentives are released, and still switch over to them in February. I would not back out entirely, but just switch to the new incentive deal if it’s better. My guide told me to wait until February (but before the price increase), but maybe that was to save on a month of annual dues.

If you're not on a crunch to buy, I would wait like you said you're doing. The only reason I went ahead and signed and said screw it was to ensure my week 49 otherwise I wouldn't have bought til early February at least.

 

[Makai]

If you're not on a crunch to buy, I would wait like you said you're doing. The only reason I went ahead and signed and said screw it was to ensure my week 49 otherwise I wouldn't have bought til early February at least.

Yeah, I’m not on a time crunch to buy points, except wanting that Blue Card for my upcoming 5 night trip to DLR January 28 (Dumbo Dare race). The lounge and discounts would be great to have.

 

[intamin]

Yeah, I’m not on a time crunch to buy points, except wanting that Blue Card for my upcoming 5 night trip to DLR January 28 (Dumbo Dare race). The lounge and discounts would be great to have.

Buy. Rescind. Buy again. LOL. Kidding kidding sort of.

 

[juliebee]

If you're not on a crunch to buy, I would wait like you said you're doing. The only reason I went ahead and signed and said screw it was to ensure my week 49 otherwise I wouldn't have bought til early February at least.

SAME!!!

 

[atthebeachclub]

I think BCV and BWV expiring in 2042 is the more certain event that has the potential to impact RIV resale prices. Who knows whether it will, but that is a pretty certain event.

I don’t think people who want to buy Beach Club or Boardwalk will look to Riviera as a substitute, or maybe it’s just me.

Polynesian would be my go to alternative if I can’t be at Beach Club and there isn’t a Beach Club 2 or something else walkable.

I don’t know if VDH resale numbers will go up or down. My suspicion is down, but maybe I’ll be wrong. It’s still a great location and great hotel. I don’t see RIV resale increasing. Which is a good deal if you like staying there and don’t mind the locked in points.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Yeah, I’m not on a time crunch to buy points, except wanting that Blue Card for my upcoming 5 night trip to DLR January 28 (Dumbo Dare race). The lounge and discounts would be great to have.

It would be pretty cool to sign the contract while on property.

 

[Makai]

It would be pretty cool to sign the contract while on property.

I have a full day open to tour and sign while there, but would my Florida guide get commission still? Not sure how that works if I take a tour with a new guide….

 

[AstroBlasters]

I have a full day open to tour and sign while there, but would my Florida guide get commission still? Not sure how that works if I take a tour with a new guide….

I would ask your FL guide to schedule the tour and give them an idea of how many points you want so you can review the details before hand.

 

[ClaraOswald]

I'm just a teeny bit skeptical of the plans. After all, they planned WestCOT, but they built the OG DCA.

How far did they get with WestCOT plans back in the day though? DF is getting pretty close.

 

[Chili327]

I don’t think people who want to buy Beach Club or Boardwalk will look to Riviera as a substitute, or maybe it’s just me.

No. It’s not just you.

 

[airjay75]

I don’t think people who want to buy Beach Club or Boardwalk will look to Riviera as a substitute, or maybe it’s just me.

No. It’s not just you.

And, just to be clear, I'm not making the argument one way or the other about RIV or VDH. I just think, whether you're a RIV or VDH lover, one might be tempted to look at future resale value through, shall we say, rose colored glasses. I think there are scenarios for both where their current resale value stays the same, falls, or increases. If I were betting money, I'd bet more on VDH than RIV, but I still wouldn't bet much money. And, if you're like OP's spouse - only interested in the numbers - I probably wouldn't be factoring that in to a decision to buy VDH or PVB.

But, as we all know, buying DVC is not strictly a numbers game. I would describe it more as a "fall in love" sort of thing combined with varying degrees of number crunching to make you feel good about what you've decided to spend money on or, at least that's what is has been for me. And, I sense that OP might just be feeling some of those feels for VDH . And, if you're spending the money required to buy 150 direct points, I think there is a lot to be said for how happy that purchase makes you feel. I would not want to buy PVB because it was the better perceived "value," only to wish you had gone with what you really wanted.

 

[Brian Noble]

combined with varying degrees of number crunching to make you feel good about what you've decided to spend money on

The only number crunching that matters is: "I have $X in discretionary cash, this thing I want costs $Y, and Y < X."

 

[Makai]

But, as we all know, buying DVC is not strictly a numbers game. I would describe it more as a "fall in love" sort of thing combined with varying degrees of number crunching to make you feel good about what you've decided to spend money on or, at least that's what is has been for me. And, I sense that OP might just be feeling some of those feels for VDH . And, if you're spending the money required to buy 150 direct points, I think there is a lot to be said for how happy that purchase makes you feel. I would not want to buy PVB because it was the better perceived "value," only to wish you had gone with what you really wanted.

The trouble is I emotionally want both of them equally! Especially after looking at videos of those Tiana themed 1 bedroom villas at VDH, and Moana themed at Poly. I would be happy with either home resort, and FOMO for the one I didn’t choose.

Another factor that has just come into play is my married child who had all the plans of moving to AZ in the next few years, is now likely to stay in the Southeast region due to her DH’s job path and promotion. So although I still plan to make trips back to CA each year or two, or on the way to Hawaii, it may just be studios needed, or 1 bedroom villas at VDH for me and a few kids, and not those big family reunion trips where I would actually plan 11 months ahead. Looks like WDW may be our home base for a while. Maybe it’s best if I hold off on VDH until we actually need that home base if the kids move back.

When I imagine where I would most want to take family visiting Florida for a big Disney park reunion trip for all the best vibes, location, and theming, it’s the Poly. In California it’s the Disneyland Hotel. My fear with passing up on VDH now is that it becomes like Grand Californian in direct base price once Disneyland FW is finished since I would not want to buy VDH resale.

 

[Brian Noble]

This is simple. Flip a coin.

• Heads you buy Poly, tails you buy VDH.
• If you are disappointed, buy the other thing.
• If you are still disappointed, don't buy yet.

 

[VGCgroupie]

This is simple. Flip a coin.

• Heads you buy Poly, tails you buy VDH.
• If you are disappointed, buy the other thing.
• If you are still disappointed, don't buy yet.

This is actually great advice. I tried to give similar advice to someone else recently but didnt use this coin analogy maybe if I did they would have understood what I meant.