Bio Fingerprints

[EEyorelover22]

I am going to post this question here since it looks like someone will know the answer. We have always used UPH so I know nothing about the "laws" of park hoppers. With the new MYW tickets, if I have options left for Quest can DS use mine if his are all gone or are they person specific? If they are person specific, how do we keep our tickets straight?

 

[Luv2Roam]

It'a amazing how many guests have trouble with inserting a card, and not dealing with finger reading. You wouldn't think that was difficult, but apparently it is. We have all witnessed a family struggling and holding up a line and it takes them 5 minutes to enter. And sometimes with as few as three tickets.
The finger scanner will really throw some off and slow down the entry lines considerably.
I am very glad they installed more scanners. They will certainly be needed, and will probably never be enough.
Some machines work better than others, as do some cards.
In all my 2004 visits I had only a few times my card did not work.
DH has more trouble with his. And he has also found at MK the readers on the left work much better for him.
I wish more that Disney had gone with Universal's AP system: Photo of the card holder on the plastic pass card. And always at USO the CM inserts the guests cards into the readers.
Just like their bag check security system, how much do the finger scanners work anyway?
I should switch our passes some day just to see if it makes any difference.

 

[LibertyBelle]

I am going to post this question here since it looks like someone will know the answer. We have always used UPH so I know nothing about the "laws" of park hoppers. With the new MYW tickets, if I have options left for Quest can DS use mine if his are all gone or are they person specific? If they are person specific, how do we keep our tickets straight?

Ticket will now come with individual names on them, so you will know exactlly whos ticket is whos...

 

[goofy4tink]

I have to say that photo passes would be good. It would only take a short time to process them. Then it would cut down on the confusion at the turnstyles!!! My dh seemed to have more trouble with his AP and biometrics than our dd, 11, did!!!

 

[Luv2Roam]

Guests always seem to feel more comfortable too with a plastic card than a little paper pass coated with a thin layer of plastic material.
Our passes look pretty shabby after a year's time. But they did not rip or tear.
This has been mentioned several times -- It is odd that guests with length of stay options have plastic cards, while passes that get used often are paper-like.

 

[EEyorelover22]

I got a different answer on another thread about names on the tickets and whether DS could use the left over options. I wish I knew for sure if they worked like the old PHP tickets.

 

[dan-tot]

I was at WDW in December and noticed the extra construction in front of MK and Epcot. I asked one of the CMs what this was and she said that it was extra turnstyles so this tyes into the new ticket policy. These are not finger print machines but knuckle scanners. They said that they were going to use them starting the 3rd of January. Any adult will have to use the knuckle scanners. The ticket will be geared to you so that you cannot give or sell your ticket to someone else. This is another way Eisner and his gang can suck more money out of people without giving us any improvements except ammusement type rides where are good portion of people cannot handle.

Our state has an ID for people who don't drive. When they were requiring photo IDs at the airport I got one for my sister. It was alot easier to do that than to argue with the ticket agents plus we got to the boarding area alot quicker.

Dan-tot

 

[crazy4wdw]

At one time, WDW did include photos on the APs. It was much easier entering the parks with these passes. Not sure why they changed to the biometric scanner. I always seem to have problems with the biometric scanner.

Also, some years ago, they were putting photo's on the hopper passes. I believe they had to discontinue this practice because of the amount of time it took to put photos on all of the passes.

 

[LibertyBelle]

This is another way Eisner and his gang can suck more money out of people without giving us any improvements except ammusement type rides where are good portion of people cannot handle.

Actually this is a way that the Theme Parks can help to uphold the Florida Law. Tickets are non-transferable at ALL theme parks...previously used, resale (of unused days) tickets are against Florida law. The vendors that you see on 192 that are selling unused days off of someone elses ticket are breaking the LAW, that is why most of those place can be packed up and hauled away in a minutes notice. The law is in place to protect tourists from buying tickets from these people and ending up paying a lot of money for a bum ticket and then being denied access to the park. With the biometrics it makes the tickets truly non-transferable. I am sorry if you see this as a ploy for more money...but it is not. It is away to finally be able to say NON-transferable means non-transferable.

 

[Lollipop Mom]

two comments...

first on carrying your ID with you at all times. This past May I carried my ID with me in my pouch with our APs, Keys to the World etc. because basically that's what Disney told me to do. That if the biometric scan didn't work I could show my ID and they'd let me through. No problem untill my pouch was stollen at the Rainforest Cafe! I had all 3 of our APs in that pouch too. So now I have no AP and no ID to replace it with. That was a challenge to do! We finally had to ask for a manager. Fortunatley my key to the world card was in my pocket b/c I had made a purchase on the way out of the park and stuck it there. Between my husband having his ID with the same last name and address and me having my key to the world with my signature on it and the fact that the ressie was in my name so I had to show ID when we checked in to the WL the manager went ahead and issued us new APs. Before getting a manager I had been in tears telling the CM "but I can tell you the date it was issued, where it was issued, the date it was first used and what park, the date it was used at the end of our last trip and what park, the first date it was used this trip and what parks we've been to all week. How would I know that if it wasn't my ticket!" Thank God we drove on that trip so I didn't have the issue of trying to get through airport security without an ID! As it was I lost only our APs, my ID, a fast pass or two and maybe $5 or $6 in cash so it was no big financial loss, just a HUGE hassle!

Second, we just returned from a trip and when we had to stop by guest relations for something else I asked if it was true that all new tickets would have biometrics. I was told yes but that they won't be called biometrics but rather something like ticket tagging. What they will do is capture your entire family's finger scans on each ticket. When you put the ticket in it will find your group then search within your group for your individual ID. This prevents confusion over who has what ticket etc. but it also allows you to transfer them within your family but not outside of it. So, say we take a trip with my parents (which we do at least every other year if not every year). We can buy our tickets and have all of them coded together. Say they only go to the parks 2 days then they give us the remaining days we would be able to use them because we were part of the same group. I know different CMs give different answers but that is the response I got from someone at MK guest relations.

 

[DebbieB]

I think a photo pass would take more time. How often do you change your hairstyle or color or are wearing it differently? The cm would have to look at the photo and look at you and try to decide if it's the same person.

 

[peter11435]

I think a photo pass would take more time. How often do you change your hairstyle or color or are wearing it differently? The cm would have to look at the photo and look at you and try to decide if it's the same person.

The photo pass also took a long time to create. Everyone needed to wait in a long line to get their picture taken. This way your finger scan is taken the first time you use the system. It is really very simple once you get the hang of it.

 

[NotUrsula]

I've also heard this business of storing multiple scans on the passes common to a family party. I have to say that that idea seems like it would cause nightmares at the turnstiles, unless they are setting up to do the scans at alternate locations, such as at the resorts, or at separate scanners that are for "first-time pass use".

For one thing, the entire party would have to go through the same scanner for it to work, and they would all have to be scanned each time a new ticket was inserted into the reader. So if you have a family of 6 (all adult tickets), they each have to do the finger-scan 6 times?

 

[peter11435]

I've also heard this business of storing multiple scans on the passes common to a family party. I have to say that that idea seems like it would cause nightmares at the turnstiles, unless they are setting up to do the scans at alternate locations, such as at the resorts, or at separate scanners that are for "first-time pass use".

For one thing, the entire party would have to go through the same scanner for it to work, and they would all have to be scanned each time a new ticket was inserted into the reader. So if you have a family of 6 (all adult tickets), they each have to do the finger-scan 6 times?

No, that is not how it works. The system would apply all fingers scaned with the new pass to everyone of the passess you purchased at the same time. However each member of your party will still only need to be scaned once. And it will not matter what turnstile you use. For example if you by six tickets the system knows all six tickets were baught by one group now when the system retains your finger scan for your pass. It will also apply it to the other five tickets you purchased.

 

[EEyorelover22]

How will it know the tickets were bought together? I'm very curious about this because I am still worried about mixing up our tickets and not getting into the parks. DD and I go one way and DS And DH go another most days.

 

[peter11435]

How will it know the tickets were bought together? I'm very curious about this because I am still worried about mixing up our tickets and not getting into the parks. DD and I go one way and DS And DH go another most days.

First of all, under the new ticket system there is a place for you to sign your name on the back of your pass. This should make it easier to see whose pass is whose.

When you buy six tickets for your party and pay for those tickets the system knows that they were all purchased together. It is similar to how your room keyes have a large number that is the same on all the keyes, however the last digit changes for each member of the party. If the tickets were bought together then they will all be recorded in the system as belonging to group x. Any member of group x has their finger scan in the system. The system simply recognizes that the ticket belongs to group x and searches looking through all members of group x. If your one of them, you get let in.

 

[safetymom]

I was at MK today and they had CM's at the TTC and before the turnstiles getting you to sign your tickets.

 

[ducklite]

How are they handling people with Park Hoppers from the past year or two?

Anne

 

[peter11435]

They work just like they always did.

 

[safetymom]

People were using park hoppers like they always did. I also was behind someone in a wheelchair, she had her ID ready and the CM put the tickets through for her and her husband. No problems.