Big Changes for FASTPASS

[belleandthebeast]

I don't want to step on anyone's toes here or offend anyone, but my opinion is......... do like US/IOA. You can buy a FOTL pass with your ticket if you choose, (I think they have 2/3? different options) or if you stay onsite, you use your room key to get in the FOTL. Everyone has the option that way if they want it. It just depends on how you want to get one (Buy w/ticket or stay onsite).

I totally agree!

 

[brer rabbit 28]

leave it alone.The system works as it is.I don't think it would be fair to discriminate against people who can't afford to stay onsite.

 

[brer rabbit 28]

The problem with your "opinion" is that it totally shuts out those guest who either cant afford to stay on site or just choose not to (I am in the latter group).
On site guests already receive perks for being onsite...access to the dining plan. extra magic hours, etc.
Everyone (depending on what ticket package you choose of course) is paying pretty much the same thing to enter the park and therefore everyone should have access to fast pass. Now im not opposed to the idea of onsite guests having more fast passes because they have paid more for the priviledge or whatever.
Lets get to the core of your issue...and that is that you have this idea in your head that YOU are paying to stay on site and all of those filthy offsite guests are using YOUR fast pass!
I know im fighting a losing battle here because most of you guys on disboards are onsite guests...but I dont know...this is probably the most selfish, non Disney idea Ive seen on here.

i am totally with you on this.

 

[cindybasket]

How about this then....

Why doesn't Disney base your number of fast passes you are given based on your last stay?

First trip to Disney - well, you would be "just a nobody" who hasn't spent enough to earn any ears (so to speak). You have to "prove" what you are worth to Disney during this trip for your "priviledges" that you will be "rewarded" on your next vacation to Disney.

Example:

Trip 1 - YOU and your family are on your own. NO Priority Seating - NO fast passes - NO nothing.

You do have to keep all your receipts on every dollar you spend at Disney. You do not get credit if you do not have a receipt...so keep them all. Remember to even get one from the popcorn and ice cream vendors, those mickey bars can add up. Don't forget to keep the locker rental receipts too!

Once your trip is done and you have completed your express check-out, Disney will "reward" you with an allotment of fast passes and priority seating reservations and you might get lucky to get a Dasani water thrown in. You would then need to "redeem your rewards" within a 3 year time frame. "Rewards" will not be eligible for roll-over, each trip you have to make enough qualifying purchases for your next trip.

If Disney did it this way, every one would be on the same footing to be rewarded. Even off-site guests would be able to "earn their ears" as well as on-site guests. On-site guests would have a little more in their start-up balance but might not if they spend diddly-squat at the theme parks.

DVCs would only get credit for the value of their buy-in price - just once. Next trip rule still applies. Each and every year afterwards, it would be just the maintenance fee (even if they haven't paid off their balance). I'm sorry but the interest is all given back to Disney as their perk for allowing you to have the priviledge of knowing you are going to be able to stay on-property at a DVC hotel.

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[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Jim Hill's been pretty fired up and PO'ed after he was thrown out of Disneyland for giving non-Disney sponsored tours a couple months ago.

LMAO is there a story on this? C'mon don't just tease us. Do tell. By the way, I'd be ok with it being an add on as long as the total # of fastpasses to be distributed stayed the same.

 

[Lewisc]

Disney now offers extended am and pm park hours for resort guests. It's possible a new FP system may reduce or eliminate EMH.

There are other wasy to encourage guests to stay on-site. MYW Dining is a perk that helps fill resorts. Why not go back to letting resort guests make PS earlier than non resort guests? Link your dining ps to your resort reservation. Cancelling your resort reservation automatically cancels your PS.

BTW Free Dining isn't really free. It's just an alternative to the room discounts that Disney would have otherwise offered to fill rooms during the hurricane season. I think the Dining works out better for most guests that the room discounts would have been but the program is nothing more than a room promotion.

 

[cindyfan]

Time to put on my flameproof suit.......

I like the idea of it given out by class of resort. I think that offsite shouldn't get the FP, values 3, moderates 5 and deluxes/DVCs 7. I think it would add an extra incentive for people wanting to stay at deluxe/DVC.

Just my opinion......

Good thing you have your flameproof suit on!! Here comes the flame-thrower!
At least you recognize that your opinion is an unpopular one!

 

[BibbidyBobbidyBoo]

We were told during the K2K tour that if a family looks like they have their day planned down to the minute, they won't approach that family and offer them the opportunity to open the park or be grand marshall for the parade.

For real? Seriously? How do they know? Is it a special facial expression? If so, tell me how to look like we're NOT planned down to the minute so I can practice that facial expression.
Is it how fast they walk? If so, I'm in trouble because I'm short and have ALWAYS walked fast. Do I need to slow down my walking?
Looking at a map all the time? WHAT... what exactly lets them know a family looks like they have their day planned down to the minute? I'm being serious... I don't want to look that way so someday we'll be approached for those things. LOL

I agree with those that said Deluxe guests already have many amenities to staying there- monorail, boat, kids clubs, better restaurants w/character meals, better pools, concierge, spa @ GF, etc. Why does fast pass need to be added to that list? Let's just let those that can afford every trip at Deluxe have EVERYTHING (every perk, benefit, etc. they can think of) and forget about those that can't afford it or don't want to stay there/etc. That'll really fill up all the resorts won't it....... no, it will have everyone clamoring for the deluxe and that's it.

(ps. we haven't been to US/IOA in years- partly because of the FOTL if you stay onsite. We don't stay onsite- so why bother going)

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

LMAO is there a story on this? C'mon don't just tease us. Do tell.

Here is the USA Today link on the "incident"!

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2005-04-20-disney-blogger_x.htm

Poor Jim's also written about it on his site, if you're REALLY interested, as in, got nothin' better to do!

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Here is the USA Today link on the "incident"!

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2005-04-20-disney-blogger_x.htm

Poor Jim's also written about it on his site, if you're REALLY interested, as in, got nothin' better to do!

Thanks. this ought to be worth a laugh.

Edit: LMAO it was. The guy's charging by the head to guide a tour through someone else's property and when they stop him, he claims they're stiffling his free speech rights....

Thanks. that made my day..

 

[DeluxePrincess]

I think it would be great if Disney just handed you 5 fast passes as you entered the gates. That's more than I use in one day. I doubt it will happen. Too many questions. Would you get them if you re-enter? Parkhop? I love the Front of the Line pass you get at Universal. I know it won't happen at WDW because there are too many people, but it sure would be nice if they worked it out somehow.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

For real? Seriously? How do they know? Is it a special facial expression? If so, tell me how to look like we're NOT planned down to the minute so I can practice that facial expression.
Is it how fast they walk? If so, I'm in trouble because I'm short and have ALWAYS walked fast. Do I need to slow down my walking?
Looking at a map all the time? WHAT... what exactly lets them know a family looks like they have their day planned down to the minute? I'm being serious... I don't want to look that way so someday we'll be approached for those things. LOL

I agree with those that said Deluxe guests already have many amenities to staying there- monorail, boat, kids clubs, better restaurants w/character meals, better pools, concierge, spa @ GF, etc. Why does fast pass need to be added to that list? Let's just let those that can afford every trip at Deluxe have EVERYTHING (every perk, benefit, etc. they can think of) and forget about those that can't afford it or don't want to stay there/etc. That'll really fill up all the resorts won't it....... no, it will have everyone clamoring for the deluxe and that's it.

(ps. we haven't been to US/IOA in years- partly because of the FOTL if you stay onsite. We don't stay onsite- so why bother going)

The CM that picks the parade folks and stuff is on main street. The Park Commandos will be so rushed they won't even bother to talk to him much if any. So it's not that he knows, he doesn't have to know.

Those already in the deluxes have already chosen the deluxes without the extra fp benefit. Why does Disney need to induce them with any more perks.? They've already made the decision to go there given the existing perks. And taking fastpass away from the mods and values isn't the way to get them to stay in a deluxe. It's a way to get them to say cya later alligator. Plus, how many are going to pay $200 extra to stay in a deluxe (that wouldn't given current benefits) merely to get fastpass too? Well in the peak periods you might find some. But the hotels are usually already at or near capacity. But in the off periods, when you need to fill em the most, fastpass has its least value.

 

[BibbidyBobbidyBoo]

The CM that picks the parade folks and stuff is on main street. The Park Commandos will be so rushed they won't even bother to talk to him much if any. So it's not that he knows, he doesn't have to know.

Okay cool... so tip is to hang around looking all chilled and not in a hurry and stuff- on Main street. Got it.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Okay cool... so tip is to hang around looking all chilled and not in a hurry and stuff- on Main street. Got it.

Here's my plan.
first 10 minutes. hang on main street acting like I don't have a plan.
second 10 minutes. commando over to dumbo
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But seriously though, there was a whole thread on here with how to get in the parade. People even posted exactly where the CM is that determines it and everythng. But I cannot personally verify any of it to be actually true or false.

 

[Luv2Roam]

I agree on the taking your time while on Main St. That was how we were unexpectedly chosen one day to be MK Grand Marshals. I owe it all to pin trading and stopping and having a nice long chat with a CM.
And if you have kids make sure they are cheery and not crying. They want a HAPPY Disney family.

 

[BibbidyBobbidyBoo]

Okay here I thought it was our commando "look" that was passing us by... when all along it was our cranky youngest (because she's also not a morning person). Aha! LOL

 

[Luv2Roam]

Not that I have any insider information on FPs. But my thoughts are many families with kids stay at the values. And families/kids need and use FP a lot. I think giving those who stay at value resorts fewer FPs would create such a commotion it would be very short lived.
Now I COULD see Disney including extra FPs in Premium packages. Not that I have heard they are even thinking about it. But that seems to be how things get into packages to help entice guests.

 

[wall6363]

omg rotfl. (How about Rickshaws pulled by people staying off-site.

Just thought that one was really funny. I have stayed offsite and the last 5 times onsite. I think fastpass should be offered to everyone. Everyone is basically paying the same price to get into the parks, then everyone should have the same options once in the parks. I believe Disney guests do recieve a fair number of advatages already. I think disney would loose some of its magic if it starts segregating non site guests to fastpasses and for the matter adrs which some have suggested also. Just my opinion.


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[katebeth]

Why change something that seems to already work well?
We always use the fastpass and have never seemed to have any problems, and I don't remember seeing any posts that have people complaining about using fastpass. It kinda sounds like a way for Disney to try to make more money

 

[bicker]

Complacency results in folks falling behind. There is always something better to be discovered, to be invented, to be created. Change is an essential part of vitality, life, growth.

Everything about WDW is a way for Disney to make more money. The owners of the company rely on that fact, and the directors of the company have a fiduciary responsibility to achieve that.