BIG change to FP+ today

[ArwenMarie]

In light of this recent Epcot development, I predict they will never offer FP+ prebooking for more than one park a day. Then people would be trying to ride multiple headliners in one day. OH NOES

(I could see something where you could book more same-day FPs in multiple parks if they are available)

 

[wisblue]

So you are only allowed to choose FP+ from one park per day. Is Disney trying to kill park hopping too?

We don't know how this will all end up, but, depending on your touring pattern and time of year, FP+ could make hopping more enjoyable. Get to a park early and tour there without FP before the crowd builds up, take a break in the middle of the day, and then go to a different park in the afternoon or evening, using your FPs to do attractions that you wouldn't be able to do without them.

 

[magicbob]

We don't know how this will all end up, but, depending on your touring pattern and time of year, FP+ could make hopping more enjoyable. Get to a park early and tour there without FP before the crowd builds up, take a break in the middle of the day, and then go to a different park in the afternoon or evening, using your FPs to do attractions that you wouldn't be able to do without them.

In theory, that's a great touring strategy.

 

[Mrs. Ciz]

Exactly. The person I was replying to had a resort stay previously that enabled them for FP+, but they are also AP holders. Once enabled, you can continue using it, but they have not enabled AP holders in general yet.

The oft-mentioned "AP loophole" is to book one night at a qualifying resort to get the account enabled .Not sure why it is considered a loophole by some, as it seems valid to me.

People who really really really want FP+ to be an "onsite only perk" are the ones who keep insisting that booking one night in a Disney hotel and then getting full access to FP+ is a loophole. It not only works for AP holders, but for regular ticket holders too. Just goes to show that FP+ is currently tied to the ticket and not the resort stay. The resort stay only activates the account at this point in the testing. We can say this until we are blue in the face - some people will insist that FP+ will stay an onsite perk only. I see maybe a booking window advantage given to onsite guests (like with ADRs) but that's it.

 

[Cinderumbrella]

took the words right out of my mouth.

This is a self-funded vacation. Not life-saving heart surgery.

+1

 

[Mrs. Ciz]

Aww, that's kind of adorable . Thinking about others. But the truth is that I don't give a hoot about great it is for other people if it isn't great for me. I may be a bleeding heart liberal but i have no desire for a socialist vacation. That said, I will simply bide my time...laying in wait for my trip next year. When the roll out has happened to the full extent, and then unlike the casual once-in-a-lifetime visitor, I will stalk these boards for all the insider tips and tricks to take full advantage or the new system. I will figure out which headliners must be FP+ and set the alarm for 11:59pm for my 60 day window to snap up all the very best FP+ reservations from the less fortunate non-planners (which is exactly the same as showing up at Rope Drop IMO).

This doesn't change or level the playing field. It simply moves the field from 9:00am at rope drop to 12:00am 60 days out.

I'll be doing it right along with you!!!

 

[Planogirl]

So you are only allowed to choose FP+ from one park per day. Is Disney trying to kill park hopping too?

I saw a blog on one of the other websites that Disney might actually prefer to do away with park hopping at some point. If part of the purpose is to more easily control crowds then it becomes much easier to do so when people stay put in the same park. Plus those half-day parks are more likely to become full day parks if guests can't as easily escape to Epcot or MK. But really who knows.

I'll be doing it right along with you!!!

I've already been doing it for a while and it isn't pretty.

 

[PrettyFlower2]

Hopefully this is just a test and they will go back to 3 fp+ daily

 

[Sheilby]

This is where people have to open their minds and look at all of the people who visit WDW and not just look at how it affects themselves and their specific touring style (combined with a lot of knowledge on how to efficiently tour WDW).

FP+ will help a lot of guests, especially first time and infrequent visitors.

I'm sure FP+ will help a lot of first time guests and infrequent visitors, this is only my 2nd time as an adult and I am excited about FP+, BUT, only because I was able to grab my FP+ before they reduced it to one headliner and for now I can still grab paper FPs for the other rides. Hopefully that won't change before I get there in 9 days. If it does, it will be a minus for me. When we took our 1st Disney vacation 3 years ago I pulled a FP for every single ride that it was available for, that is what made my trip enjoyable. I couldn't care less about parades and I'm not in Disney for the food, I live in Jersey (one of the biggest markets for DW) so I can have fabulous food at a moment's notice, Disney pales by comparison.

I don't care how it affects others, I care how it affects me. As long as paper FPs stay for the next couple of weeks, then FP+ is a bonus, if they disappear before then, well, I will not be a happy camper.

Aww, that's kind of adorable . Thinking about others. But the truth is that I don't give a hoot about great it is for other people if it isn't great for me.

Sounds like most of the bleeding heart liberals that I know

 

[mom2rtk]

See my comment above.

Maybe I should present it this way.

Which of these statements would you most agree with:

1. Disney management should make decisions and set policies based on what best suits me, or

2. Disney management has a responsibility to the company shareholders to maximize the company's profits and, therefore, it should make decisions and set policies by considering what is best for all of its customers.

You know..... multiple-choice tests were always my least favorite. Because there were usually so many tricks involved.

Your choices presuppose that advantaging the newer and less frequent visitors is the best way to maximize profits. I don't concur.

Disney takes their most loyal customers for granted at their own peril.

 

[Planogirl]

You know..... multiple-choice tests were always my least favorite. Because there were usually so many tricks involved.

Your choices presuppose that advantaging the newer and less frequent visitors is the best way to maximize profits. I don't concur.

Disney takes their most loyal customers for granted at their own peril.

I don't like tests either. Besides I think that a wise company can do both.

 

[mom2rtk]

I don't like tests either. Besides I think that a wise company can do both.

Ahhhh...... better add that as option number 3.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I have no problem with the fact that lots of people focus on those big rides, but you have to take a step back and realize that not EVERYONE does.

I understand that you don't have a problem with those who tour differently, but there have been *many* posts here of late that have pretty much been lecturing those who *are* there for the rides that basically they just need to suck it up and deal with the ride rationing and be happy about it, or just not go to Disney anymore.

Those people *also* have to realize that just because riding headliners multiple times isn't important to them, doesn't make it less important to some other family.

 

[delilah]

You got Captain EO didn't you

No. I got Spaceship earth and Living with the Land, both of which you can walk on with about a 5 minute wait later in the day. At Hollywood Studios, we got the Little Mermaid, and Muppets, as I recall. To be honest, the last time I saw the Little Mermaid show was when my son was about 7, and he is 16 now. This was to get a FP for Toy Story Mania. Muppets I enjoy about once every 3rd visit (we go twice a year, on average). But, I would feel the same way about Captain Eo. It looks to be a 20 Coke commercial from the '80s to me.

 

[Cinderumbrella]

Those people *also* have to realize that just because riding headliners multiple times isn't important to them, doesn't make it less important to some other family.

*applause*

 

[AmyB2006]

I understand that you don't have a problem with those who tour differently, but there have been *many* posts here of late that have pretty much been lecturing those who *are* there for the rides that basically they just need to suck it up and deal with the ride rationing and be happy about it, or just not go to Disney anymore.

Those people *also* have to realize that just because riding headliners multiple times isn't important to them, doesn't make it less important to some other family.

I don't believe I said this, but a question…. what else can you do? Disney is changing the way things are done. In a way, this is your only option. What else do you suggest?

You can let your voice be heard, but it isn't going to make Disney go, 'ya know… let's just scrap this whole thing and go back to regular FP'.

 

[delilah]

I understand that you don't have a problem with those who tour differently, but there have been *many* posts here of late that have pretty much been lecturing those who *are* there for the rides that basically they just need to suck it up and deal with the ride rationing and be happy about it, or just not go to Disney anymore.

Those people *also* have to realize that just because riding headliners multiple times isn't important to them, doesn't make it less important to some other family.

I agree 100%. We go for the rides. If I were going for the education and cultural experience, there are lots of other interesting places in the world I might want to see. Any of us pays as much as anyone else for the experience of going to Disney world. To be perfectly honest, I think that I could wait in line for my 3 favorite ride at any given park. Generally, we don't get more than 3 fast passes per day at any park, and we usually try to time things so that we don't need them.

There was a person on another board who was expressing a related attitude that "somebody" has to get the rooms with the crummy views. Well,that would be dandy, if one weren't taking time off work for his only vacation this year, and the cost were discounted by a fair amount. But, unfortunately, that's not the case. Therefore, guests complain, and rightfully so, when their savannah view at AKV is a dusty trail and a chain link fence, or the woods view is a tree outside their balcony, or any view of dumpsters or roof tops. Or, there was the time that at All Star sports that I think that my room was right next to the loading dock for the main building, and I could hear the truck backing signals all night. There was no view, and no quiet at all in that room, but, at least it was cheap. I didn't want to move, because it was on the second floor, with no elevator, and I was alone with my then 5 year old son.

 

[Sheilby]

I don't believe I said this, but a question…. what else can you do? Disney is changing the way things are done. In a way, this is your only option. What else do you suggest?

You can let your voice be heard, but it isn't going to make Disney go, 'ya know… let's just scrap this whole thing and go back to regular FP'.

New Coke isn't still around is it? Of course I loved New Coke so what do I know Seriously though, if enough people complain they can change how it all works.

I agree 100%. We go for the rides. If I were going for the education and cultural experience, there are lots of other interesting places in the world I might want to see. Any of us pays as much as anyone else for the experience of going to Disney world. To be perfectly honest, I think that I could wait in line for my 3 favorite ride at any given park. Generally, we don't get more than 3 fast passes per day at any park, and we usually try to time things so that we don't need them.

There was a person on another board who was expressing a related attitude that "somebody" has to get the rooms with the crummy views. Well,that would be dandy, if one weren't taking time off work for his only vacation this year, and the cost were discounted by a fair amount. But, unfortunately, that's not the case. Therefore, guests complain, and rightfully so, when their savannah view at AKV is a dusty trail and a chain link fence, or the woods view is a tree outside their balcony, or any view of dumpsters or roof tops. Or, there was the time that at All Star sports that I think that my room was right next to the loading dock for the main building, and I could hear the truck backing signals all night. There was no view, and no quiet at all in that room, but, at least it was cheap. I didn't want to move, because it was on the second floor, with no elevator, and I was alone with my then 5 year old son.

I agree, I have no problem getting the sucky view if I get a huge discount. Many people are willing to take the poor view if it means they save enough to be able to go to Disney. However, when you are paying big bucks, especially if you paid for an upgrade, you deserve the view you paid for. pool view should mean you can actually see the pool, not a tiny corner of it over the view of the air conditioning systems. Not to mention the fact that some views are just ridiculously bad showing that it was poorly planned out.

 

[robpa]

No. I got Spaceship earth and Living with the Land, both of which you can walk on with about a 5 minute wait later in the day. At Hollywood Studios, we got the Little Mermaid, and Muppets, as I recall. To be honest, the last time I saw the Little Mermaid show was when my son was about 7, and he is 16 now. This was to get a FP for Toy Story Mania. Muppets I enjoy about once every 3rd visit (we go twice a year, on average). But, I would feel the same way about Captain Eo. It looks to be a 20 Coke commercial from the '80s to me.

Your son may enjoy the little mermaid show now just sayin

captain eo is horrible I heard they used it at Guantanamo Bay to try to get prisoners to talk

 

[robpa]

I don't believe I said this, but a question…. what else can you do? Disney is changing the way things are done. In a way, this is your only option. What else do you suggest?

You can let your voice be heard, but it isn't going to make Disney go, 'ya know… let's just scrap this whole thing and go back to regular FP'.

Absolutely nothing, conform or be cast out.