Big Brother 8 *Spoiler* Thread

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ED is sitting outside...on the Showtime feed.

He just says an UGH, something about hating this **** and says, why didn't you just put me in here with one of my ex wives, it would have been the same.

Daniele must still be at it with him.
 
Do we even know for sure that she knows anything about America's Player?

And they don't show her arrival at the house until Thursdays show.
 
Well people I have to say it has been fun on this board. thank you for the info and info on live feeds. I need to unsubscribe now cause we are nearing the end I want it to be surprises.
I still want either Eric or Jessica to win.
 
She did not see him I thought.

They showed the clip of The Power of Ten to the HG's and they could all see that Nick had been there in case Daniele was the one playing. She teared up and you could see she was shaking.

Shelby
 

If Eric was not AP, he would have definitely used the POV and tried to have ED or Dani out.

What a position he has been put in. But, that's the game !!!!
 
If Eric was not AP, he would have definitely used the POV and tried to have ED or Dani out.

What a position he has been put in. But, that's the game !!!!

I agree. I think the producers are making it clear to him that according to the polls, America loves ED. After the first few times of campaigning against what America voted for, Eric realizes that the tasks will be easier for him if he goes with the popularity. Jessica wanted to backdoor Dani, which would be the smartest move for her. She trusts Eric's advice so she agrees to his strategy. If this ends up hurting her in the end, I don't think she will be happy....whether Eric is AP or not.
 
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I wonder what happened with Jen at the sequester house. I thought for sure they would have shown a clip tonite of Jen joining Justin. She had said she wasn't going to sequester but she is contractually obligated to do so. I wouldn't put it past her to threaten to reveal what she knows about America's Player to the other houseguests that arrive at the sequester house if they make her go....

She know's about Eric? :confused3 Did they tell her? That doesn't seem right since she's on the jury and this would probably influence the vote if Eric is in the final 2. In the past, they've protected these kind of "secrets" until after the winner is announced.
 
When Jessica made that last statement about the fact that she and Eric disagree about strategy is she meaning that she wanted him to use the POV so she could put Dani up?? I really think that makes a lot of sense because I do think Dani will win HOH AGAIN next week and then Eric and Jess will be in trouble!!

What do you think??
I'm not sure why J and E didn't call D and D into the room to lay it all out once again. To explain what an opportunity this would be to advance themselves in the game by putting one of them up. Rehash the agreement to make sure they were on the same page and have them "promise" not to put them up and make them sweat a little. Sure words are words and they will likely not abide by them - but I think it would have been good to make them squirm and let them know they realize what kind of opportunity they were passing up.

She know's about Eric? :confused3 Did they tell her? That doesn't seem right since she's on the jury and this would probably influence the vote if Eric is in the final 2. In the past, they've protected these kind of "secrets" until after the winner is announced.
I was going to ask the same thing. I don't subscribe to the live feeds. I tell myself I want to be suprised (yet I hang out here once in a while). And I can't afford to waste anymore time of my life on this show than I already do. It is terribly addictive!
 
I'm not sure why J and E didn't call D and D into the room to lay it all out once again. To explain what an opportunity this would be to advance themselves in the game by putting one of them up. Rehash the agreement to make sure they were on the same page and have them "promise" not to put them up and make them sweat a little. Sure words are words and they will likely not abide by them - but I think it would have been good to make them squirm and let them know they realize what kind of opportunity they were passing up.


Do we really know that this didn't happen? Remember how CBS 'edits' things. They may have been called in and discussed some things and we just didn't see it. ED probably said "no way, you promised not to put us up. We'll promise not to put either of you up if you stick with your word." I don't get live feeds so I don't know. Just a thought.

I just hope this AP thing doesn't backfire with Eric with Jessica! We'll just have to watch and see....popcorn::
 
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Okie Dokie :) Thanks for the reminder!

And it better be something big and sparkly!

I wonder if he is doing any damage control by telling her that there are things he will explain on the outside or something...

::yes:: ;)
 
I read about Jen finding out about Eric being AP on one of the spoiler sites (Mortys or Joker - don't remember which one). Something about Jen going into the diary room after Eric and finding one of the "America's Player" cards that Eric reads on the air. Supposedly the production staff forgot to remove the card before Jen came in or something. It was right after that when she started calling Eric "Mr. America".

She knows Eric is involved somehow with CBS but doesn't know the details apparently. She had hinted several times in the last week that America and Big Brother have more influence over the game than anyone realizes.
 
I read about Jen finding out about Eric being AP on one of the spoiler sites (Mortys or Joker - don't remember which one). Something about Jen going into the diary room after Eric and finding one of the "America's Player" cards that Eric reads on the air. Supposedly the production staff forgot to remove the card before Jen came in or something. It was right after that when she started calling Eric "Mr. America".

She knows Eric is involved somehow with CBS but doesn't know the details apparently. She had hinted several times in the last week that America and Big Brother have more influence over the game than anyone realizes.

UH OH! :scared: I thought that the Jury wouldn't find out that he was AP because they make the final decision I think.

I'm new to BB so what happens when there are 4 HG? Because you have the 2 nominees who can't vote, and HoH who can't vote. So the other person is the only vote? Then what about when there are 3 people? Someone please explain the end of it all to me please.
 
They showed the clip of The Power of Ten to the HG's and they could all see that Nick had been there in case Daniele was the one playing. She teared up and you could see she was shaking.

Shelby

I remember seeing that but I was not sure if A & D saw what we saw? Only because I thought Danelle said last night It was terrible not knowing who was there. Didnt I hear something to that effect?
 
I remember seeing that but I was not sure if A & D saw what we saw? Only because I thought Danelle said last night It was terrible not knowing who was there. Didnt I hear something to that effect?

They saw what we saw in the BB episode last week when they told them where they were going. But they also saw the actual game.
 
OH MAN - I am bummed out here - I just noticed that BB8 is going to pre-empted in our area due to a sports game.

Now how rude is that????????????

Then I'm leaving for CA early Friday am, so I won't have time to read all the threads. Oh well, I'll just have to catch up later.

This isn't nnniiiccceee-------------
 
Have you guys read this?
I'm glad someone in the mainstream media had the cojones to tell the tlelvision-only viewers what was really going on

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20423839/

‘Big Brother’s’ competing realities
TV viewers aren’t getting as much of the story as Internet diehards

Commentary
By Andy Dehnart
MSNBC contributor
Updated: 10:22 a.m. ET Aug 24, 2007
When houseguest Jen Johnson left the “Big Brother 8” house Thursday night, she did so with the show’s first-ever penalty vote: the producers cast a vote against her, making her eviction the result of a 6-0 vote.

As host Julie Chen read off her cue card, “Jen, you are the first person in eight years of ‘Big Brother’ to break food restriction rules and get a penalty vote. How does it feel to make ‘Big Brother’ history?”

Only on reality TV is eating an offense, although Jen actually agreed during an earlier competition to restrict her diet for 30 days to the cruel high-protein gruel that the producers delight in forcing some of the houseguests to eat for a week or more, apparently convinced that makes for excellent television.
A better question, one that Julie Chen might have asked if she was an actual journalist instead of a cue card reader, is, “How does it feel to have been the target of your fellow houseguests’ wrath for seven weeks, and to be punished for violating the rules while others are not? Do you think viewers would have the same impression of your recent meltdown if they knew what happened all day long in the house, with your fellow houseguests constantly berating you, even if you are kind of annoying?”

When she was the target of others’ wrath, Jen retained the same, stone-faced expression, water bottle in hand, sometimes trying to talk to the person but never, until this week, matching the anger and enmity that was being thrown her way. Although her punishment was for eating, Jen was also apparently reprimanded for destroying fellow houseguest Dick Donato's cigarettes. The irony there is that Jen’s clothing was vandalized earlier this season by another houseguest, Eric.

But Eric is “America’s Player,” one of this season's twists.

Three times a week, viewers vote and Eric must do what they say, sometimes performing tasks invented by the show’s often-sadistic producers. One week, the producers asked viewers, “Whose personal property should he covertly target?” The reason: “Eric needs to instigate some drama in the ‘Big Brother’ house. This week, he’s a secret vandal.” During last night's “America's Choice” question, the accompanying video even showed Eric squirting mustard all over her shirt, which Jen washed multiple times but could not get clean.

Jen was also targeted by houseguests who weren’t being prompted by producer-created tasks and viewer votes, especially Dick Donato. For weeks, he verbally abused her, and while she'd sometimes attempt to respond to his accusations — some true, some not — he’d continue his relentless assaults: “You’re a ***** for what you did to her. You’re a f---ing liar. ... I will do everything I can to make you the most miserable ***** in the house. ... Get the f--- out of here, you stupid *****. ... Nobody gives a f--- about you.”

Jen is not the only person Dick treats that way, but she did seem to be targeted more than others. On one occasion, he dumped iced tea on her head, and suffered no apparent consequences for that action.

While “Big Brother 8” has shown several of Dick’s tirades, it has, in recent weeks, set him up as a sort of hero, ignoring his yelling and swearing and focusing instead on his successful alliance with his formerly estranged daughter and others (including Jen) to defeat a group that wanted to get him out of the house.

That gets to the center of what's most fascinating — and most frustrating — about “Big Brother”: its transparency. The show takes place essentially in real time; while the events shown on the Sunday and Tuesday episodes generally happen a few days before, giving the editors time to work, the Thursday shows are mostly live.

And there are the live, streaming Internet feeds from the house that allow anyone who pays to watch the drama in actual real time. In addition, this season, the show began offering three hours of mostly uncensored footage from the house every night on Showtime.

No other reality show gives its audience access to so much material, and thus so much insight about how reality television is constructed. While we may be aware that we’re watching highly condensed episodes on television three nights a week, those offer a self-contained narrative that has its own internal logic, even if that narrative over-simplifies events or completely ignores others.

The clearest and most egregious example of that this season has to do with houseguest Amber’s assertion during multiple conversations that Jewish people can be identified “by their nose” or “by their last name,” and that people who are “really money-hungry” tend to be Jewish. That prompted CBS to condemn her hateful and ignorant remarks as “offensive” in a statement that insisted Amber's comments “will not be part of any future broadcast.”

That sets up an odd dynamic: Essentially, there are multiple versions of the same reality. Someone who watches the show only on television will have an entirely different impression of Amber than those who watch or follow the show online. On TV, Amber cries constantly, often about missing her daughter, and reveals that God talks to her about the game. On the Internet feeds, Amber swears constantly, frequently using words like “*******,” and makes bigoted remarks.

Dick’s on-television persona is similarly disconnected from his in-house personality. He has been openly abrasive since he first entered the house as part of the twist that (unfairly to everyone) brought three players’ enemies into the house. While the television show has shown Dick being confrontational and abrasive, it has excluded, for example, his use of the c-word to describe female houseguests, a word that Eric also uses.

The TV show has also excluded houseguest Daniele’s rather shocking assertion that even one of the show's producers called Jen the c-word in the Diary Room. The producers of the show often pull the plug on the live feeds when the houseguests reveal more than they should about what happens in the Diary Room, the one private room in the house where the cast is interviewed by producers.


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One conversation on the live feeds showed that Dustin felt “harassed into saying things today that I did not want to say” by a producer, and Jameka agreed; before more was said, someone cut the feed, as if they had something to hide.

We may never know what actually happens in the Diary Room, whether producers are merely asking leading questions to get the houseguest to be more expressive, or whether they're subtly trying to sway votes and keep the show interesting, as some viewers have asserted this season.

The massive quantity of uncensored content that pours out of the house on a daily basis, much of which is transcribed by feed watchers in online forums, makes it difficult for an average viewer to keep up. Some of it, like Amber's comments, reach the show’s audience and others through YouTube, bloggers, and the media. But the rest makes “Big Brother” on TV significantly different than reality.

Andy Dehnart is a writer and teacher who publishes reality blurred, a daily summary of reality TV news.

© 2007 MSNBC Interactive
 
It is BS that Dick is still there. He clearly violated many rules. Yet Jen broke one and was punished.

Last nights episode was b o r i n g :crazy2:
 
Shucks - but he has calmed down a whole lot.

I liked it better when he was making it exciting !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think he got reprimanded a lot in the DR also.

But then another point is that he can't do that to his DD.

Amber would go completely balistic if he did that to her.

Jam would stay away from him.

Eric and Jess has done nothing to deserve screaming at.

SO ----- no one left for him to harp on.


He didn't "violate" any rules - he just made it exciting

just my 2 cents worth
 
Last nights episode was b o r i n g :crazy2:
::yes:: It was boring.
I think Eric and Jessica may have made a mistake not backdooring Dick or Daniele. There is not going to be a time when it will be easy to get rid of them without having to hear Dick go crazy :headache: . I think if D or D get HOH next week they will put up Eric and Jessica. I think Eric and Jessica's best hope is to get rid of Zack and hope that Jam and Amber help them get rid of D&D.
Is there any hope that this season will get interesting? :confused: I agree with other posters who said they like watching drama in the house.
 
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