Beware your double booked ADRs!

[Nermel9]

Wonder what they consider "overlapping?"

Well, I had an 8:40pm ADR at Teppan Edo and have been checking for something earlier for a few days, and finally an 8:00 ADR opened up, so I booked that one...and while I was booking the little box popped up telling me I had an ADR at that time, even though it was 40 minutes later, and do I want to cancel it or keep it? I canceled it, which I would have done anyway even if that little box didn't pop up, but I wonder how much of a time frame they give you?

 

[JimmyV]

Easy fix for people who book multiple rooms on one reservation or want to split their party up among different restaurants. When makng the reservation, the system totals up all the people who are "attached" to that reservation. If room #1 is for two adults and two children, that equals 4 people. If room #2 has grandma and grandpa, then the reservation total is now 6 people. ADRs should not be considered "double booked" as long as the total number of seats reserved at any given time does not exceed the number attached to the reservation. In the example above, the person who made the reservation should be able to make any number of ADRs at or around the same time as long as they do not reserve more than 6 seats. The computer system should be able to handle that.

 

[TDC Nala]

I wouldn't be opposed to, say, allowing resort guests only to make concurrent ADRs as long as they are linked to the resort reservation AND the total number of persons on the ADRs do not exceed the number of people on the resort reservation.

I would. I go to meals at WDW often with local friends. Obviously they are not listed on my reservation. In December we have a group of 14, some local, some on WDW reservations, some staying offsite, booked at Hacienda. I made the reservation. There is one person registered in my room. This is the problem with forcing resort guests to make reservations only for the number of persons registered in their room. Not everyone travels together in a static family group.

I would assume that the system that works as noted above would also say that if you have one person booked in a room you cannot make reservations for more than one person. But if not, suppose a group of six staying in two rooms wants to have three go to CRT and three go to Prime Time at the same time on the same day. Plus, they want to bring Grandma, who lives in Orlando, along to CRT. Should they not be able to add Grandma to that reservation? Under the proposed system they'd have four at CRT and three at Prime Time when they can't book concurrent reservations for more than six. So Grandma's out.

 

[Violet Parr]

Sweet! Maybe some good stuff will open up because of this!

 

[TiggerTrigger]

Wonder what they consider "overlapping?"

It was my understanding that overlapping is taken as far as booking two ressie's for the same meal- i.e. if you booked a 7:30am breakfast at WCC and a 10:15am breakfast at CP for the same day, the system would consider this an overbooking. The same would hold true if you had a 4:15pm dinner at Le Cellier and an 8:55pm dinner at Biergarten on the same day.

 

[Tricia1972]

I believe that overlapping is booking more than one reservation in a two hour window.

 

[mcd2745]

I would assume that the system that works as noted above would also say that if you have one person booked in a room you cannot make reservations for more than one person. But if not, suppose a group of six staying in two rooms wants to have three go to CRT and three go to Prime Time at the same time on the same day. Plus, they want to bring Grandma, who lives in Orlando, along to CRT. Should they not be able to add Grandma to that reservation? Under the proposed system they'd have four at CRT and three at Prime Time when they can't book concurrent reservations for more than six. So Grandma's out.

I would assume that the system that works as noted above would also say that if you have one person booked in a room you cannot make reservations for more than one person.

Yes, you could. As long as there isn't a concurrent ADR, the number of people on the room reservation does not matter at all.


But if not, suppose a group of six staying in two rooms wants to have three go to CRT and three go to Prime Time at the same time on the same day. Plus, they want to bring Grandma, who lives in Orlando, along to CRT. Should they not be able to add Grandma to that reservation? Under the proposed system they'd have four at CRT and three at Prime Time when they can't book concurrent reservations for more than six. So Grandma's out.

Poor Grandma is not out. In this scenario...you just would need two different people to make the ADRs. Anyway, situations like this are too rare IMO to be considered when devising the framework for the system. So for those who have these rare types of exceptions (and those who choose to 'abuse' the system with actual double-booking), it will require an extra effort, but system will still benefit the overwhelming majority.

 

[asmit4]

I would assume that the system that works as noted above would also say that if you have one person booked in a room you cannot make reservations for more than one person.

Yes, you could. As long as there isn't a concurrent ADR, the number of people on the room reservation does not matter at all.


But if not, suppose a group of six staying in two rooms wants to have three go to CRT and three go to Prime Time at the same time on the same day. Plus, they want to bring Grandma, who lives in Orlando, along to CRT. Should they not be able to add Grandma to that reservation? Under the proposed system they'd have four at CRT and three at Prime Time when they can't book concurrent reservations for more than six. So Grandma's out.

Poor Grandma is not out. In this scenario...you just would need two different people to make the ADRs. Anyway, situations like this are too rare IMO to be considered when devising the framework for the system. So for those who have these rare types of exceptions (and those who choose to 'abuse' the system with actual double-booking), it will require an extra effort, but system will still benefit the overwhelming majority.

If people truly want to cheat the system- it won't be that hard to do but maybe this is a good way to at least cut it down a bit.

 

[Pumbaa_]

I prefer to think of it as Disney's way of reminding people they have already booked and make it easy to cancel one

 

[Sweettears]

I prefer to think of it as Disney's way of reminding people they have already booked and make it easy to cancel one

Its easy to forget when you are making multiple ADRs or make one that you were looking for at a later date. With they way that everyone values and jumps on hard to get times, there isn't enough time to cancel first before reserving the new time.

 

[Pumbaa_]

Exactly! I rebooked a couple of mine and forgot to cancel the first one (ok, i was too lazy ) I did when i had more time though!

 

[mrsxsparrow]

Like I said before, I don't think the system would cancel two bookings linked to the same reservation, no matter how many people they are for, if they are not in the same name.

I had an ADR I made the same way I made all the others but in a different person's name and it didn't show up with the rest of mine. If you have people who want to eat somewhere else, it shouldn't be an issue, since the two reservations should be under different names.

 

[bumbershoot]

Well, I had an 8:40pm ADR at Teppan Edo and have been checking for something earlier for a few days, and finally an 8:00 ADR opened up, so I booked that one...and while I was booking the little box popped up telling me I had an ADR at that time, even though it was 40 minutes later, and do I want to cancel it or keep it? I canceled it, which I would have done anyway even if that little box didn't pop up, but I wonder how much of a time frame they give you?

An hour and 5 minutes. Just messed around, and was able to get a 1pm and a 2:05 on one day without the message popping up. 40 minutes and 1 hour were both too short, and had the message, but 1 hour and 5 minutes did not yield the message.

And remember, the popup *asks* if you'd like to cancel one OR keep both. If you click "keep", it lets you.


I can't help but wonder if the names of the CMs saying this to various people are the same...I always wonder that when things like this are talked about...

Anyway, situations like this are too rare IMO to be considered when devising the framework for the system.

You think it's rare. I do not. Just in this thread off the top of my head, including me, there are three people who have exactly this scenario during their trips.

 

[Sweettears]

An hour and 5 minutes. Just messed around, and was able to get a 1pm and a 2:05 on one day without the message popping up. 40 minutes and 1 hour were both too short, and had the message, but 1 hour and 5 minutes did not yield the message.

With the statistics on how overweight Americans are I guess WDW thinks that a meal an hour might be the norm for some.

 

[sherbet]

As i have said on another thread i just cant believe that disney is gonna cancel everyone doublebooked ressies. There would be some very upset people indeed. If i hadnt come to this board i wouldnt even know what a doublebooking was so imagine the thousands of people that dont know. I mean, where exactly does it say that you cant doublebook?, a window pops up and says you have an existing reservation but gives you no time frame in which to cancel. Hope they get it fixed soon or there is gonna be chaos at the restaurants .

 

[mrsxsparrow]

As i have said on another thread i just cant believe that disney is gonna cancel everyone doublebooked ressies. There would be some very upset people indeed. If i hadnt come to this board i wouldnt even know what a doublebooking was so imagine the thousands of people that dont know. I mean, where exactly does it say that you cant doublebook?, a window pops up and says you have an existing reservation but gives you no time frame in which to cancel. Hope they get it fixed soon or there is gonna be chaos at the restaurants .

I mean no offense with what I'm about to say, and I don't want to start anything, but I think it should be pretty common sense that double bookings aren't a good thing. I didn't want this thread to turn into a debate on double bookings, I was just trying to give information I heard today, but really? I understand double booking if you can't figure out where you want to eat and need to talk to other people in your group, but hopefully you'd figure it out quickly. With the popularity of the free dining and the dining plan, getting a good ADR is hard enough when people don't double book. Double booking prevents people without ADRs from getting one, while others sit with two or three ADRs that they don't even plan to use. HOPEFULLY if Disney implements this correctly, it will free up some restaurants so that it won't be so difficult to get an ADR.

Okay just needed to get that out there... can we move on now?

 

[texasteacher35]

Exactly! I rebooked a couple of mine and forgot to cancel the first one (ok, i was too lazy ) I did when i had more time though!

I totally undertsand forgetting to cancel here and there, occationally...but I really think that SOME people are SERIAL DOUBLE-BOOKERS...and that's pretty selfish! Seriously!

 

[sherbet]

Actually for first timers to Disney its all rather confusing and very easy to doublebook to start off. You have to learn all the restaurants, which parks you will be in, what days where etc. And you have to book 180 days out !! So when i went on i did doublebook until i fathomed out which parks i was going to. Off course i cancelled after i had everything in place but i do think that there are a lot of people out there that dont and dont know about this forum to realise how important it is.

 

[Tricia1972]

Double booking appears to be the "Tipping Thread" of the reservation board.