Best Economical Resort

[Chili327]

Not sure if/where @pkrieger2287 posted this or a link, but it sure fits much nicer in these forums than on their site.
https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-spring-2024

Resort	Avg. Cost Per Pt.	Years Left	Cost Per Pt. Per Year from Price	2024 Dues	Total Cost Per Pt. Per Year	Rank: Spring 2024	Rank: Fall 2023	Rank Change
Copper Creek	$136	43	$3.16	$8.09	$11.25	1	1	—
Bay Lake Tower	$132	35	$3.77	$7.59	$11.36	2	2	—
Riviera ***	$126	45	$2.80	$8.85	$11.65	3	4	+1
Saratoga Springs	$102	29	$3.52	$8.14	$11.66	4	5	+1
Grand Floridian	$164	39	$4.21	$7.57	$11.78	5	3	-2
Polynesian	$158	41	$3.85	$8.23	$12.08	6	6	—
Animal Kingdom	$105	32	$3.28	$9.08	$12.36	7	8	+1
Aulani *	$97	37	$2.62	$9.76	$12.38	8	7	-1
DisneyIand Hotel***	$155	49	$3.16	$9.53	$12.69	9	NA	NA
Old Key West (Extended	$116	32	$3.63	$9.87	$13.50	10	9	-1
Boulder Ridge	$93	17	$5.47	$8.68	$14.15	11	11	—
Old Key West	$82	17	$4.87	$9.87	$14.69	12	10	-2
Hilton Head	$67	17	$3.94	$11.31	$15.25	13	13	—
Boardwalk	$116	17	$6.82	$8.67	$15.49	14	12	-2
Grand Californian	$260	35	$7.43	$8.55	$15.98	15	15	—
Beach Club	$129	17	$7.59	$8.63	$16.22	16	14	-2
Vero Beach**	$58	17	$3.41	$13.86	$17.27	17	16	-1

Or for those using the skinny skin, this image will keep it in shape.

 

[Sprinkles&Sprints]

Darn, my BWV really brings down my average...

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Am I missing something, or does this not take into account the points required for reservations? For example, OKW is far down on this list, but I sure get way more room/time on-site with my OKW points than I would with my BLT/Riv points.

I understand the list, but think it's a little misleading for overall value. There are other factors! But very interesting info!

 

[Chili327]

Am I missing something, or does this not take into account the points required for reservations? For example, OKW is far down on this list, but I sure get way more room/time on-site with my OKW points than I would with my BLT/Riv points.

I understand the list, but think it's a little misleading for overall value. There are other factors! But very interesting info!

It does not take into acct required points to book, nor does it take into acct for restrictions, except the 3 asterisks by Riviera, VDH, etc

But those can be personal choices you can factor in yourself, this is purely financial, for the purchase.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

I like looking through numbers, too!!

 

[VGCgroupie]

Not sure if/where @pkrieger2287 posted this or a link, but it sure fits much nicer in these forums than on their site.
https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-spring-2024

Resort	Avg. Cost Per Pt.	Years Left	Cost Per Pt. Per Year from Price	2024 Dues	Total Cost Per Pt. Per Year	Rank: Spring 2024	Rank: Fall 2023	Rank Change
Copper Creek	$136	43	$3.16	$8.09	$11.25	1	1	—
Bay Lake Tower	$132	35	$3.77	$7.59	$11.36	2	2	—
Riviera ***	$126	45	$2.80	$8.85	$11.65	3	4	+1
Saratoga Springs	$102	29	$3.52	$8.14	$11.66	4	5	+1
Grand Floridian	$164	39	$4.21	$7.57	$11.78	5	3	-2
Polynesian	$158	41	$3.85	$8.23	$12.08	6	6	—
Animal Kingdom	$105	32	$3.28	$9.08	$12.36	7	8	+1
Aulani *	$97	37	$2.62	$9.76	$12.38	8	7	-1
Disneyland Hotel***	$155	49	$3.16	$9.53	$12.69	9	NA	NA
Old Key West (Extended	$116	32	$3.63	$9.87	$13.50	10	9	-1
Boulder Ridge	$93	17	$5.47	$8.68	$14.15	11	11	—
Old Key West	$82	17	$4.87	$9.87	$14.69	12	10	-2
Hilton Head	$67	17	$3.94	$11.31	$15.25	13	13	—
Boardwalk	$116	17	$6.82	$8.67	$15.49	14	12	-2
Grand Californian	$260	35	$7.43	$8.55	$15.98	15	15	—
Beach Club	$129	17	$7.59	$8.63	$16.22	16	14	-2
Vero Beach**	$58	17	$3.41	$13.86	$17.27	17	16	-1

Or for those using the skinny skin, this image will keep it in shape.
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You'd love my spreadsheet if you like this

 

[Massachusetts]

You'd love my spreadsheet if you like this

Now I am going to be checking the boards all night waiting for your spreadsheet @VGCgroupie!

 

[Chili327]

You'd love my spreadsheet if you like this

Now I am going to be checking the boards all night waiting for your spreadsheet @VGCgroupie!

Yep, lets see it, can you post a copy?

 

[VGCgroupie]

Yep, lets see it, can you post a copy?

I am too cheap to buy excel so it’s in Apples version of excel called numbers. I wonder if the formulas will paste over with it.

 

[Brian Noble]

I'm pretty sure google sheets will translate---upload the Numbers version, and download an Excel one.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I'm pretty sure google sheets will translate---upload the Numbers version, and download an Excel one.

I’ll give that a go. I’m headed out now and will post it here this evening. Hopefully the mods allow it (joking) because its rather eye opening to see all the numbers compared .

 

[AstroBlasters]

Am I missing something, or does this not take into account the points required for reservations? For example, OKW is far down on this list, but I sure get way more room/time on-site with my OKW points than I would with my BLT/Riv points.

I understand the list, but think it's a little misleading for overall value. There are other factors! But very interesting info!

This report is for people who are completely resort agnostic and don’t plan to book during their home resort window.

 

[WeIcomeHome]

Here is a breakdown of each resort for booking standard room types for studios, 1BR and 2BR (where applicable) assuming they use their resale points only to book their home resort.

*Points for each room type uses the average points for the entire year taken from the DVC Field Guide. Disneyland Hotel data may be slightly off as the info I had was from 2023 and did not include DLH so I just averaged the various point periods and didn't calculate it out per day.

 

[Cybertruck]

Not sure if/where @pkrieger2287 posted this or a link, but it sure fits much nicer in these forums than on their site.
https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-spring-2024

Resort	Avg. Cost Per Pt.	Years Left	Cost Per Pt. Per Year from Price	2024 Dues	Total Cost Per Pt. Per Year	Rank: Spring 2024	Rank: Fall 2023	Rank Change
Copper Creek	$136	43	$3.16	$8.09	$11.25	1	1	—
Bay Lake Tower	$132	35	$3.77	$7.59	$11.36	2	2	—
Riviera ***	$126	45	$2.80	$8.85	$11.65	3	4	+1
Saratoga Springs	$102	29	$3.52	$8.14	$11.66	4	5	+1
Grand Floridian	$164	39	$4.21	$7.57	$11.78	5	3	-2
Polynesian	$158	41	$3.85	$8.23	$12.08	6	6	—
Animal Kingdom	$105	32	$3.28	$9.08	$12.36	7	8	+1
Aulani *	$97	37	$2.62	$9.76	$12.38	8	7	-1
DisneyIand Hotel***	$155	49	$3.16	$9.53	$12.69	9	NA	NA
Old Key West (Extended	$116	32	$3.63	$9.87	$13.50	10	9	-1
Boulder Ridge	$93	17	$5.47	$8.68	$14.15	11	11	—
Old Key West	$82	17	$4.87	$9.87	$14.69	12	10	-2
Hilton Head	$67	17	$3.94	$11.31	$15.25	13	13	—
Boardwalk	$116	17	$6.82	$8.67	$15.49	14	12	-2
Grand Californian	$260	35	$7.43	$8.55	$15.98	15	15	—
Beach Club	$129	17	$7.59	$8.63	$16.22	16	14	-2
Vero Beach**	$58	17	$3.41	$13.86	$17.27	17	16	-1

Or for those using the skinny skin, this image will keep it in shape.
View attachment 872687

Math is Fun! Another great view to look at your points/purchase decisions.

This report is for people who are completely resort agnostic and don’t plan to book during their home resort window.

100% I am that guy! My SAPs have served me well over the years. My recent dues rank does surprise me! It is something I tracked from the start of my initial purchase. I was shocked by the lowest ranked this year.

 

[Cybertruck]

I am too cheap to buy excel so it’s in Apples version of excel called numbers. I wonder if the formulas will paste over with it.

I am as well. Check with your IT department at work. If they have an enterprise Microsoft license it allowed employees a single use personal copy. That is how I got MS Office software years ago.

 

[BrianLo]

This chart just mostly is a reflection that the market doesn't price in length of contact to any great extent. Which is fine, I've come to accept that's the case and work around the parameters.

Eventually the market has to reflect length of contract, but it seems to be a slow retention of value until they run out the clock. There will eventually be a rapid contract value extinguishment, but that may only be in the final 10... or even 5 years?

i.e. will Beach club maintain a 100pp price 10 years before expiry and then drop 10$ per year... or will it hold onto an 90pp price until 6 years before expiry and rapidly shed 15$ per year.

The spread of OKW/OKW-E is our leading indicator on that break point hitting. I'll be honest, I definitely used to think the break point would be 20 years and it was not at all.

 

[mabucco]

Here is a breakdown of each resort for booking standard room types for studios, 1BR and 2BR (where applicable) assuming they use their resale points only to book their home resort.
View attachment 872736
*Points for each room type uses the average points for the entire year taken from the DVC Field Guide. Disneyland Hotel data may be slightly off as the info I had was from 2023 and did not include DLH so I just averaged the various point periods and didn't calculate it out per day.

That's a great overwiew and in my opinion a more accurate comparison of value than just comparing the cost per point per year. Factoring in points charts is essential given the high differences between points cost per night for different resorts.

 

[smileyanna]

This chart just mostly is a reflection that the market doesn't price in length of contact to any great extent

Another way to look at it is that the market doesn't value points in 2043 the same as points in 2025. And the market is right, in that regard.

I'm not saying that Beach Club etc are priced "correctly," but any table that calculates a version of "cost per point" (even if it includes points charts considerations) that treats a point that becomes available in 40 years at the EXACT same value as a point that becomes available tomorrow is going to overweight contract length. These are fun to look at but not a great way to rank value.

 

[CastAStone]

Another way to look at it is that the market doesn't value points in 2043 the same as points in 2025. And the market is right, in that regard.

I'm not saying that Beach Club etc are priced "correctly," but any table that calculates a version of "cost per point" (even if it includes points charts considerations) that treats a point that becomes available in 40 years at the EXACT same value as a point that becomes available tomorrow is going to overweight contract length. These are fun to look at but not a great way to rank value.

Amen

 

[CastAStone]

Here's a version that includes some options for a discount rate, sorted by a 5% discount rate. Shakes things up quite a bit!!

			Cost Per Pt. Per Year from Price					Total Cost Per Pt. Per Year
Resort	Avg. Cost Per Pt.	Years Left	0% Discount rate​	3.5%​	5.0%​	6.5%​	2024 Dues	0% Discount rate​	3.5%​	5.0%​	6.5%​
Saratoga Springs	$102​	29​	$3.52​	$5.54​	$6.59​	$7.73​	$8.14​	$11.66​	$13.68​	$14.73​	$15.87​
Aulani *	$97​	37​	$2.62​	$4.64​	$5.71​	$6.88​	$9.76​	$12.38​	$14.40​	$15.47​	$16.64​
Bay Lake Tower	$132​	35​	$3.77​	$6.48​	$7.91​	$9.48​	$7.59​	$11.36​	$14.07​	$15.50​	$17.07​
Animal Kingdom	$105​	32​	$3.28​	$5.40​	$6.51​	$7.72​	$9.08​	$12.36​	$14.48​	$15.59​	$16.80​
Copper Creek	$136​	43​	$3.16​	$6.07​	$7.64​	$9.36​	$8.09​	$11.25​	$14.16​	$15.73​	$17.45​
Riviera ***	$126​	45​	$2.80​	$5.52​	$7.00​	$8.61​	$8.85​	$11.65​	$14.37​	$15.85​	$17.46​
Boulder Ridge	$93​	17​	$5.47​	$7.17​	$7.99​	$8.88​	$8.68​	$14.15​	$15.85​	$16.67​	$17.56​
Old Key West	$82​	17​	$4.87​	$6.32​	$7.05​	$7.83​	$9.87​	$14.69​	$16.19​	$16.92​	$17.70​
Grand Floridian	$164​	39​	$4.21​	$7.65​	$9.48​	$11.50​	$7.57​	$11.78​	$15.22​	$17.05​	$19.07​
Old Key West (Extended	$116​	32​	$3.63​	$5.97​	$7.19​	$8.53​	$9.87​	$13.50​	$15.84​	$17.06​	$18.40​
Hilton Head	$67​	17​	$3.94​	$5.16​	$5.76​	$6.40​	$11.31​	$15.25​	$16.47​	$17.07​	$17.71​
Polynesian	$158​	41​	$3.85​	$7.20​	$9.00​	$10.97​	$8.23​	$12.08​	$15.43​	$17.23​	$19.20​
DisneyIand Hotel***	$155​	49​	$3.16​	$6.57​	$8.43​	$10.46​	$9.53​	$12.69​	$16.10​	$17.96​	$19.99​
Boardwalk	$116​	17​	$6.82​	$8.94​	$9.97​	$11.07​	$8.67​	$15.49​	$17.61​	$18.64​	$19.74​
Vero Beach**	$58​	17​	$3.41​	$4.47​	$4.98​	$5.54​	$13.86​	$17.27​	$18.33​	$18.84​	$19.40​
Beach Club	$129​	17​	$7.59​	$9.94​	$11.08​	$12.31​	$8.63​	$16.22​	$18.57​	$19.71​	$20.94​
Grand Californian	$260​	35​	$7.43​	$12.77​	$15.59​	$18.68​	$8.55​	$15.98​	$21.32​	$24.14​	$27.23​

And pasted as an image for phone viewing