Barry Manilow Refuses The View because of Rosie?

His music has always been lame yet hummable.

But i agree with his decision not to perform on a program with a right wing reactionary mouthpiece who advocates our troops remaining in Iraq for an indefinite period of time with NO strategy in place.

Her opinions are "out there" and don't deserve mainstream access. Either she (or the program) should go away. Good for Barry & I hope others follow his lead.

hound

Yeah, the VIEW could have just allowed one of the other co-hosts to interview him and kept it quiet. Whatever.
 
I guess I am confused with Barry's reasoning.

Bc if it is bc of Elizabeth, then isnt he basically empowering her by not standing up to her beliefs, it looks more like he is running away. And is Elizabeth this powerhouse with strong views or a puppet of the producer. Barry should want to avoid the View all together.

Now if it is to defend his friendship with Rosie then wouldnt he want to once again avoid the View all together. I mean did Elizabeth singlehandedly get Rosie off the show? I mean if he thinks that that is putting a lot of control and power in Elizabeth's hands that I dont believe she had.

Last I heard Rosie quit the View, probably with the higher ups prompting, so why wouldnt Barry want to avoid all of them, didnt everyone at the View and all those viewers and nonviewers that called for her firing arent they all to blame if all Barry is doing is defending his buddy????

And in regard to the whole Monica thing and Barbara shushing Elizabeth, once again is this Eilzabeth or the producer whipsering in her ears??? And why cant she bring it up, bc heaven forbid anyone allowed anything said that might tarnish the almighty Hilary. If your candidate is that strong then it shouldnt be an issue if something like that is brought up.
 
Barry like most artists is an emotional person. He feels deeply. I am the same way. If I despise you I can not be with you & do the nice chit chat thing.

Some people can do the stepford/robot thing and smile and act. I can not.

The great thing about this free country is you can do that.

I don't get why people don't think we can use our freedoms here.

EH is free to be Elizabeth & Barry is free to skip it.
 
Barry like most artists is an emotional person. He feels deeply. I am the same way. If I despise you I can not be with you & do the nice chit chat thing.

Some people can do the stepford/robot thing and smile and act. I can not.

The great thing about this free country is you can do that.

I don't get why people don't think we can use our freedoms here.

EH is free to be Elizabeth & Barry is free to skip it.

Did Barry say he despises EH? Do you despise people you don't know? Are you incapable discussing differing opinions with someone you disagree with?

But the issue wasn't the two of them just avoiding each other like at a dinner party or such and "playing" nicey nicey as a front. Barry made a specific request not to be interviewed by EH or he wasn't coming on the show. IMO, that's the same thing as telling a store or business you won't do business with them unless they can ensure that a certain employee doesn't serve or help them. That's incredibly self-centered and intolerant of him.
 

That's incorrect Joe. This country is very divided and it feels like we jumped back in time to the late 60's. It's not quite that bad yet, but anyone with a shred of honesty has to admit that hard feelings are very close to the surface. This poorly planned war has pitted American against fellow American and is more than just normal disagreements over politics and what party you vote for. The President who ran as the "great uniter" in 2000, has had a big hand in all of this anger, whether you admit it or not Joe.

I actually find myself longing for the days when Clinton was smack dab in the middle of the Lewinsky scandal. As bad as it was, at least people weren't dying over it and we weren't running up a huge deficit. The barbs and attacks seemed harmless to what's going on now. People are really upset over this war, how it was planned, how it was carried out, and the end result we have now. It just isn't liberals or the Democrats, Joe, it's people from all walks of life. I have seen life long Republicans drop party affiliation over this, myself included. One day Joe, you might see that it just isn't the fringe who are angry over what's going on. Posting terms like "No surrender" or "Stay the course" isn't going to help bring America together. We, as in America, need some closure to this debacle really soon. Another two years of this kind of anger stemming from this war, will hurt America more than the terrorists can only hope for. Think about it.

I disagaree.
 
The thing that bothers me is when someone supports THIS case, but if another performer refused to interview with Whoopi or Joy because of their liberal views-that performer would be called a diva or intolerant.

Personally, I think Barry's trying to get publicity or maybe he really is that fond of Rosie that he can't speak to anyone that doesn't like her-but either way it seems immature to me. And I would think the same if someone did the same thing to Joy or Whoopi.
 
The show could have just kept EH out of his short interview segment, all the women dont do the interview it is usually two of them. But since the producer, or EH;s puppetmaster as I like to call him is such a conservative this was a perfect situation for him to make another celb that does not support his political beliefs look bad.

You dont think that these actors/musicians dont request who they would like to be interviewed by ever? Of course they do and if this was not something that could be dragged through the mud for publicity, IMO by the VIEW not by BM you woulld have never heard about it.
 
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For the first time, i watched more than 45 seconds of the view.

First Hasselback, then Whoopie & now flat earth lady. (& Babwa is at least a decade past her prime). Why is this show on the air??

No wonder BM decided to give it a pass. It's almost as comical to watch as GWB discussing tribal factions & trying to pronounce & discuss third world countries & leaders. Two very slow moving trainwrecks.

hound - :upsidedow
 
Barry has been on the View before with Elizabeth. There have been no Political Discusion about his performances. So why the problem now. I guess we have to look forward to others dropping off the guest list becuase of Elizabeth's Views. I was so looking Forward to an Interview with Mr Streisand (James Brolin) on his Happy 9/11 Day comments. I guess now he can pull the Elizabeth Excuse.
 
For the first time, i watched more than 45 seconds of the view.

First Hasselback, then Whoopie & now flat earth lady. (& Babwa is at least a decade past her prime). Why is this show on the air??

No wonder BM decided to give it a pass. It's almost as comical to watch as GWB discussing tribal factions & trying to pronounce & discuss third world countries & leaders. Two very slow moving trainwrecks.

hound - :upsidedow


I haven't watched since Rosie left. I heard the Shephard lady say she didn't know if the earth was round or flat and I just shook my head. When Rosie said the war in Iraq was wrong there were scores of people here condemning her. This? Nothing. I saw it on MSNBC and was mortified.
 
The show could have just kept EH out of his short interview segment, all the women dont do the interview it is usually two of them. But since the producer, or EH;s puppetmaster as I like to call him is such a conservative this was a perfect situation for him to make another celb that does not support his political beliefs look bad.

You dont think that these actors/musicians dont request who they would like to be interviewed by ever? Of course they do and if this was not something that could be dragged through the mud for publicity, IMO by the VIEW not by BM you woulld have never heard about it.


You make this sound like a disease, as if Whoopi, Joy, Rosie and Barbara are such liberals. Should this show only have liberals so then they can all just spout off what you want to hear??? And if this producer is such a conservative then why did Barbara hire him, maybe to make the show more rounded and appeal to more than just one demographic. And other View or hosts have never may anyone who doesnt support their poltical beliefs look bad.(Tom Selleck and Rosie) but I guess those are ok, if they line up with your beilefs:sad2:
 
You make this sound like a disease, as if Whoopi, Joy, Rosie and Barbara are such liberals. Should this show only have liberals so then they can all just spout off what you want to hear??? And if this producer is such a conservative then why did Barbara hire him, maybe to make the show more rounded and appeal to more than just one demographic. And other View or hosts have never may anyone who doesnt support their poltical beliefs look bad.(Tom Selleck and Rosie) but I guess those are ok, if they line up with your beilefs:sad2:

I'm a liberal, but I think the show is too liberal... I think It needs one more conservative. I don't think it's much of a *view* if you have 4 liberals and 1 conservative, especially when the 1 conservative really doesn't present herself well
 
I'm a liberal,but I think the show is too liberal... I think It needs one more conservative. I don't think it's much of a *view* if you have 4 liberals and 1 conservative, especially when the 1 conservative really doesn't present herself well


I totally agree with this! I am not a fan of EH and I do think she is not representative but I think she is entitled to her opinion.

I know many are not fans of Fox News but I always like Hannity and Colmes bc I thought the ideas were very interesting and as conservative as I like to think I am I could appreciate the views that were well presented by Colmes the liberal. Unlike Barry I do like to hear how others think and have a dialgoue evne if I dont agree.
 
I totally agree with this! I am not a fan of EH and I do think she is not representative but I think she is entitled to her opinion.

I know many are not fans of Fox News but I always like Hannity and Colmes bc I thought the ideas were very interesting and as conservative as I like to think I am I could appreciate the views that were well presented by Colmes the liberal. Unlike Barry I do like to hear how others think and have a dialgoue evne if I dont agree.

I also wonder if they keep EH there for the exact reason that she does NOT do a good job of represting mainstream conservative idealogy.. Yes, we will have a conservative view, but we will make darned sure it a bad one
 
I'm a liberal,but I think the show is too liberal... I think It needs one more conservative. I don't think it's much of a *view* if you have 4 liberals and 1 conservative, especially when the 1 conservative really doesn't present herself well

I was kind of hoping that they would fill one of the seats with a stronger conservative voice just to balance things out a bit. Maybe even a real conservative, not a neo-con.
 
I disagaree.



What do you disagree to?

That the country is really divided over the war?

Or that another two years of the exact same results and feelings we're getting now, will only be worse as time goes on?

That the President and the GOP in general, have been hurt by the Iraq war and how it's been handled? It was the POTUS who made the decision after all to invade.

Do you really feel that everything is great and going good and it's all media bias that's driving the low poll numbers?

Is the dissatisfaction of millions of people like me, all imagined?

That thanks to the mistakes that have been made, that it's a strong possibility that the Democrats may take the WH in 08? Do you disagree with that?

I look forward to you giving me your detailed view points and maybe I can see where you're coming from.
 
FYI...at the opening of the show today they announced that Barry will apprear on the View sometime in the future.
 
You make this sound like a disease, as if Whoopi, Joy, Rosie and Barbara are such liberals. Should this show only have liberals so then they can all just spout off what you want to hear??? And if this producer is such a conservative then why did Barbara hire him, maybe to make the show more rounded and appeal to more than just one demographic. And other View or hosts have never may anyone who doesnt support their poltical beliefs look bad.(Tom Selleck and Rosie) but I guess those are ok, if they line up with your beilefs:sad2:

Not trying to make anything sound like a disease and never claimed that the rest of the women were such liberals either, and I dont want to hear the extream of either mindset, i want to hear decent discusion of both points of view, not attacks.

I dont want to see anybody be made to look bad and I didnt agree with the rosie attack on tom selleck even though he did agree to discuss the topic on the show, did you know that?

Dont be sad for my beilefs, my beilefs are for people to stop being at each others throats and get back to be people not political talking heads full of rage and discust for the opposite of their beiliefs.

People like rosie and like bill geddes/EH will not get us over that hump.
 
I also wonder if they keep EH there for the exact reason that she does NOT do a good job of represting mainstrean conservative idealogy.. Yes, we will have a conservative view, but we will make darned sure it a bad one

It is like you are reading my mind:lmao:
 
I am no Democrat, but Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a tool. I wouldn't go on any show she was a part of, either. She's a complete moron and I DO think her opinions are dangerous (although she has a right to them).
 













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