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way to go way off topic.....:rolleyes1

yeah, the parade comment was over the edge, that's just silly.

but IMO, so too be would be a lack of construction walls, which you advocate, so it really isn't that far off topic.

in any event it was meant to be in fun and not mean-spirited. :wizard:
 
The consturction ride at Disney would definitely be an e-ticket attraction. LOL! :thumbsup2:3dglassespopcorn::
 

I certainly can sympathize with those who wish we didn't have to see the construction. I've also experienced quite a bit of it at Disney over the years and I think WDW has done quite a great job of keeping it behind closed doors. I was in DL in June of 2009 and was so surprised how open the construction was at CA new attraction World of Color and thought "wow, I don't think we'd be seeing this much if it were at WDW", but also quite intrigued to see a part of the process of a Dream being built. With the new FL expansion at WDW there have been many instances (such as the train ride through the old Toontown) where construction is now very evident in WDW. That being said, I am very excited to experience the new projects upon completion (regardless of my opinions of what they are planning). I appreciate the attempts Disney makes to conceal the construction, regardless of how effective it is. I'm sure Disney could manufacture a "Magic Bubble" to hide the construction but I much rather them put the money into making the new project FANTASTIC then spending half the budget on covering up how it's being done.

"Well, that's progress for you. Speaking of progress... There's a great big beautiful tomorrow, Shining at the end of every day"
 
Guests would be more negatively impacted by the railroad being closed or having it not do a full circuit then they will EVER be by seeing a little construction.

So while the construction may impact the guest experience in some way, it is the choice of what will have the LEAST impact on the guest. Disney has decided that keeping the railroad running as is is a much better decision then changing it. I personally agree 100% with Disney.

If the possibility of seeing construction is going to ruin your trip or upset you or your child SO much that you are "hysterical" then maybe you should postpone your trip. It is not a secret that this work is going on so it is your responsibility to make your decisions with this knowledge.
 
Did anyone thought that maybe they absolutely have to have an open area next to train to deliver material at night or workers have to do it through some underground tunnels.

Also, does anyone remember that backstage tour or whatever it is called at DHS or people mover, do not remember which one, got a scene when you ride outside rooms where they make costumes, or at least pretend to do so and surprisingly enough, there is no birds or bunnies who does it but people, what a shock it should be for a child, right?
 
Also, does anyone remember that backstage tour or whatever it is called at DHS or people mover, do not remember which one, got a scene when you ride outside rooms where they make costumes, or at least pretend to do so and surprisingly enough, there is no birds or bunnies who does it but people, what a shock it should be for a child, right?

Maybe that is why Disney puts a 16 year old age limit on a lot of their tours :idea:;)
 
The train needs to stop at the area formerly known as Toontown to maintain a safe following distance from the train in front. If the train didn't stop at Toontown, it would plow into the train stopped at the Main Street station, which would be decidedly unmagical.

Did anyone thought that maybe they absolutely have to have an open area next to train to deliver material at night or workers have to do it through some underground tunnels.

Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner! They have to have access to that area or else how are they going to get the materials and heavy machinery in and out. Maybe they will put up more decorative tarps, but it would be madness for the construction crews to build a wall, just to take it down every time something large needs to be moved in and out.

Does anyone know what percentage of guests actually ride the train over the course of the day? I'm betting its pretty small, and I'd much rather them use the money they would spend on more decorative/solid walls, and actually put it towards the Fantasyland expansion.
 
Also, does anyone remember that backstage tour or whatever it is called at DHS or people mover, do not remember which one, got a scene when you ride outside rooms where they make costumes, or at least pretend to do so and surprisingly enough, there is no birds or bunnies who does it but people, what a shock it should be for a child, right?

It's a fine line I guess. preserving the "magic" is pretty important to all of us I think. Right?

Seeing how costumes are made is no big deal...but we don't want Mickey Mouse pulling off his fake head during a meet and greet do we?

Likewise, some feel construction detracts and should be hidden as much as possible.

On a realted note...I was reading a Walt Disney bio and I didn't realize that when Walt announced Disneyland..the entire idea and park...it was April 1954 and it opened in July 1955. WOW, a whole park buit in 15 months! And now it takes 3+years to remodel one section of WDW.....
 
I bought my son a shirt that said "I'm the reason Daddy drinks."

I got a great white elephant gift at a party in December...an oversized wine glass that says "Mommy's Sippy Cup" on it. I never used to understand why some people drank...then I had kids. :lmao:
 
Did anyone thought that maybe they absolutely have to have an open area next to train to deliver material at night or workers have to do it through some underground tunnels.

Also, does anyone remember that backstage tour or whatever it is called at DHS or people mover, do not remember which one, got a scene when you ride outside rooms where they make costumes, or at least pretend to do so and surprisingly enough, there is no birds or bunnies who does it but people, what a shock it should be for a child, right?

yes, I did that tour. That tour also showed the live filming happening at the STUDIO park. Which convinced my mother to let her children devote 3 hours of their theme park day in the audience of the Mickey Mouse Club!
Then the Studios shut down, and the animation department was masacred... other examples that led to my original question... "is there still a Disney difference?"
The Disney Difference has always been in the details. which are slowly disappearing. When a Jungle Cruise skipper can walk down harbor blvd. in costume. When a giant blue hat sits in the middle of a recreation of Hollywood Blvd. (to cite another heated thread!) Attractions that are shuttered permanently but still on the maps. Lights changed BEFORE they burned out. Repairs made, not just hang a sheet over them. Fireworks and parades included in the price of admission, not charging twice for entrance on the same day.
I am as excited as the next person to see glimpses and peeks of what is coming, but I don't know that it would be worth it to have to sit listening to heavy equipment for ten minutes. I know of other refurbs that were almost governmental in their secrecy (remember the blurred patchy pictures that were sneaked out during the Pirates refurb? And what IS going on in Star Tours? No one has breached the walls since the queue was ripped out!)
And are people REALLY so exhausted they physically cannot make it back to the front of the park under their own strength?
 
It's a fine line I guess. preserving the "magic" is pretty important to all of us I think. Right?

Seeing how costumes are made is no big deal...but we don't want Mickey Mouse pulling off his fake head during a meet and greet do we?

.....

I do not see how building something new can possibly compare to Mickey pulling off his head or Cindy taking a smoking break. Those are very different things.
 
This is where planning is involved...

If people did research they would know there is work going on and could choose not to go. But they don't instead they drag there family there and complain how Disney ruined the magic. No Disney didn't, a little planning would have avoided that....


as much as I love Disney they are also a business and businesses make changes sometimes
 
I know of other refurbs that were almost governmental in their secrecy

1. (remember the blurred patchy pictures that were sneaked out during the Pirates refurb?

2. And what IS going on in Star Tours? No one has breached the walls since the queue was ripped out!)

3. And are people REALLY so exhausted they physically cannot make it back to the front of the park under their own strength?

1. Seriously..your comparing the expansion of FL to the rehab of 1 ride completely enclosed in a building out of sight?
Wanna rehab Pirate? Close the front door you can take the whole ride out
and no one would see.
Gee what did you think when they were building EE? Oh the horror!
Or Thunder, Splash, ToT..basically any expansion higher than 10ft not completely inside a building.

2. see above.

3. Some people just ride to relax on for a bit while you sit going around the park. Has nothing to do with physically can not make it or not.


And Kelly, that's a brick wall you keep hitting your head on.
Your not going to change it, just give yourself a headache.
:)
 
On a realted note...I was reading a Walt Disney bio and I didn't realize that when Walt announced Disneyland..the entire idea and park...it was April 1954 and it opened in July 1955. WOW, a whole park buit in 15 months! And now it takes 3+years to remodel one section of WDW.....
I'm agreeing with you here...

I'm sure that bio didn't say anything of hiding the project or trying to and of course that cost?...If you drop the cost of "elaborate curtains" or "magic bubbles" (figure the cost of designers, graphic artists, Disney Amin. that have to approve the final concept, then the construction workers to bring it all to fruition...& everyone in-between that I have no clue about) that's how many more construction workers you could pay to complete the project at hand & how much sooner it could be done! I don't like to see the construction either but I'd rather see it & it be done sooner than not see it & be surrounded by elaborate walls & magic bubbles for years.
 

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