Back from a horrible Disney experience.

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We were a DisneyQuest a little over a week ago and my DS couldn't get his ticket to work. I helped him with it while the CM's carried on a conversation. This is the only issue I have really had. I do get the feeling that there has been a major turnover at the parks.
 
I'm so sorry you had such a disappointing time...:sad1:

I can relate with you when you said the cm's were laughing/talking amongst themselves. We are frequent visitors (ap's) and feel like there's alot of "inside jokes" going on with the cm's and conversations that they make you stand by and wait till they are finished to finally address you. I always feel like I'm interrupting them if I have a question. I feel like a conversation is what you should have when nothing else is going on, and if a guest walks up to you you should end your convo immediately and address the guest.
 
That is the way I felt. Believe me, I didn't expect to have every request granted, but at least give me one of the four I asked for. I feel six months is enough to accomodate at least one of the requests.

However, they gave me the opposite of every one of those requests. It was just like they didn't care. I have a hard time beleiving that with all the rooms at Pop they could not accomodate at least one of my requests. I even did what they asked for when I called up all those months prior. I called the resort directly two weeks before and a week before.

I wanted to let you know that if you dial the hotel directly or even if you're staying in the hotel and dial the front desk, you get a call board. Most of the time, they don't know the correct information.
Next time, fax the info to the hotel. You might get better results. BTW, I have a thread right now about less than magical CMs. The bad service is rampant.
 
posted by rie'smom
I wanted to let you know that if you dial the hotel directly or even if you're staying in the hotel and dial the front desk, you get a call board. Most of the time, they don't know the correct information.
Next time, fax the info to the hotel. You might get better results. BTW, I have a thread right now about less than magical CMs. The bad service is rampant.

Thanks for the info. The way I'm feeling right now though is I won't be going back anytime soon.

That may explain why they said they only received one request.

I'm wondering if they laid off a lot of people and the people that are working are expected to work extra harder, that may explain all the mad faces I encountered.

Do you have a link to the bad CMs thread?
 

There is a definite difference but I think it is primarily the College Program people, IMO. If you are a CPer please understand that I am not saying it is all of you. We have had some wonderful interaction with CPers. But I have been going to Disney World since it opened. Lately I see more young college students working there and more of them are rude and unconcerned for the guest. On our last trip in June we had the two CP guys driving the trolley on Main Street trying to hook up with female guests. They exchanged phone numbers and talked about meeting up at PI! All of this was while those of us who had just gotten on the trolley waited for them. We also had CPers on Haunted Mansion LAUGHING!!!! Never in all these years have I ever seen a HM cast member laugh. And this time it was all 3 of them talking and joking from the time we walked through the front doors until we got out of the elevator. Unexcusable!!! There are other examples but I think Disney definitely needs to do something about it. People need to remember that it isn't just any job and it will be demanding and difficult and it requires you to be "on" the whole time. They don't need to apply if all they are looking for is a party! Again, if you are a CPer who is NOT like that first, thank you for remembering what you are there for and where you are, and secondly I hope I didn't offend you. I know it's not all of you! It's just that our bad experiences have all been with CPers.
 
Part of the problem,I think, is that Disney has started outsourcing lots of positions. It seems like the CMs in the past had pride in their company but the outsourced workers just don't seem to care.
 
I think mainly they are counting on the fact that we all have precious little vacation time - and it is so very precious, considering the costs at Disney! - and most of us are not willing to spend a huge chunk of that time waiting around to talk to a manager (who will probably not be helpful anyway.)

I wanted to let you know that if you dial the hotel directly or even if you're staying in the hotel and dial the front desk, you get a call board. Most of the time, they don't know the correct information.
Next time, fax the info to the hotel. You might get better results. BTW, I have a thread right now about less than magical CMs. The bad service is rampant.

I doubt that calling or faxing would have any effect whatsoever. In the past several years, as service has gotten gradually worse and cost-cutting measures have become more and more noticeable, I have felt at OKW that if we are unfortunate enough to come in on a late plane, we do not get our requests filled, as they seem to assign rooms "first come, first served" instead of having someone look over the upcoming requests and try to match them up. Whoever answers your phone call or fax might possibly make promises, but probably would not be the one deciding where to assign you on your arrival day. The only room that matched our requests recently was one that we lucked into when we moved from a room that we had been assigned but that was reeking with smoke.

I have pretty much given up on expecting my requests to be met, which is probably their goal, to wear us down until we stop asking for what they are unwilling to provide, servicewise. The thing is, before we joined DVC 10 years ago, I never would have thought of making special requests, but they used to encourage us to do it as part of our magical Disney experience.

On the plus side, in the past couple of years we have not had as bad a room assignment as that time they actually booked us into a building that was under construction (and therefore nowhere to park close by, when close parking is one of the main reasons we choose OKW! They didn't care that I had trouble walking), they were trying to paint our room while we were in it, they refused to move us, and they did not even apologize. (This was the first time we encountered the "bad attitude" CMs.) Then there were the many times we had to wait for hours (while being exhausted from having spent the previous 16+ hours traveling there) to get things repaired like major leaks in the appliances, hundreds of bugs in the curtains, and several jacuzzi jets not working - btw, I stopped calling about that particular problem after I saw the maintenance guy step into the tub with his dirty work boots on and not try to clean out the tub afterward - until I pointed it out, at which point he grabbed one of our towels to swipe at the tub (!!!) and then did not offer to replace it, so we were left having to launder the towel and/or wait for housekeeping to deliver a new one before I could clean up from our long journey (I have this thing about not wanting to be in the tub or shower when someone comes to the door).

Thanks for starting this thread where we can vent!
 
Posted by Pixie Dust
Thanks for starting this thread where we can vent!

Your welcome. Thanks for listening to me vent. It actually helped.

Posted by Mouseketeer70
There is a definite difference but I think it is primarily the College Program people, IMO.

You definitely have a point and I think you are right. When I started to notice it I was talking about it to my wife and saying how disapointed I was and she said maybe it was because the young kids don't have the same values as the kids of years ago had. However, I also noticed quite a bit of the bad attitutude CMs were middleaged also. I just think that their standards have really been lowered or that management is making this people extra unhappy.

By the way, the reason why I'm so upset about this is not only because my vacation was a lot less then magical, but because I really care about this place and I'm upset to see it go in this direction.

I'm 44 years old and old enough to remember when a CM met you in the park, they always had a smile and always ended their encounter with you with "Have a Magical Day. Not one person said this during this trip, heck I hardley saw anyone smile. The only people who say have a magical day is the phone operators and front desk over the phone.
 
Posted by rie'smom
Part of the problem,I think, is that Disney has started outsourcing lots of positions. It seems like the CMs in the past had pride in their company but the outsourced workers just don't seem to care.

Disney Management better wake up before this hits them in the pocket book. However, until then, they will not care.

As I was walking through the parks all I kept saying to myself: I thought we were in a recession. Disney dosen't seem to be affected.
 
Hi. Your post is very disapointing and I hope this isn't what is to come of the CM's. We got back on Tuesday and were there from the 10th to the 18th (we drove so we stoped over before we came back to NY). We stayed at the AKL. The only 'rude' CM I encountered was one of the Savannah guides who I think was not even being rude but was preoccupied because they were out on the Arusha Rock Savannah looking for one of the Zebras and I think he was concerned. Other than that throughout the resorts and the parks I thought everyone was rather friendly. I did see LOTS of upper management walking around, not sure why.

Now Universal is a completely different story and I actually complained to guest services about one of their employees who was working at Thunder Falls CS at Islands of Adventure in the Jurassic Park section. She definitly needed some customer service training.
 
I think you need a vacation from your vacation. Maybe going someplace else next trip is the way to go. Our last DL vacation almost totally ruined my desire for anything Disney, and from my experience filling out the paper work for a truely horrible CM will result in squat. Not even a phone call, or a sorry.

We decided to try world one more time - while DD is young, and then we'll move on to something new. There are a lot of awsome experiences out there, and some wonderful people in the tourist industry. Disney doesn't own all the magic.
 
Posted by Meloncholywings
I think you need a vacation from your vacation. Maybe going someplace else next trip is the way to go. Our last DL vacation almost totally ruined my desire for anything Disney, and from my experience filling out the paper work for a truely horrible CM will result in squat. Not even a phone call, or a sorry.

We decided to try world one more time - while DD is young, and then we'll move on to something new. There are a lot of awsome experiences out there, and some wonderful people in the tourist industry. Disney doesn't own all the magic.

So true. In a way it is good that it happened, because I was becoming a little too obsessed with Disney vacations. At one point I told my wife that I only want to go to Disney and no place else. It was weird I know, but I felt I loved it that much. However, now I know it is a big world and at 44 I better start seeing the rest of it, not just Walt's version. So I guess the bad CMs were a blessing in disquise.
 
Take a break from Disney and you can come back excited and happy....once a disney freak...always;)
 
I completely agree that you seem to need a vacation from Disney.

I always have to restrain myself after reading the boards not to run right to the phone and try to get the same deal someone else did and get my expectations sooo high. I go with the flow and don't expect too much, and am pleasantly surprised when something nice happens.

It is up to me to make my own magic, and not expecting people to cater to me.
 
I think you need a vacation from your vacation. Maybe going someplace else next trip is the way to go. Our last DL vacation almost totally ruined my desire for anything Disney, and from my experience filling out the paper work for a truely horrible CM will result in squat. Not even a phone call, or a sorry.

We decided to try world one more time - while DD is young, and then we'll move on to something new. There are a lot of awsome experiences out there, and some wonderful people in the tourist industry. Disney doesn't own all the magic.

I think this is so true. Maybe it is time to do something new.
 
I wanted to let you know that if you dial the hotel directly or even if you're staying in the hotel and dial the front desk, you get a call board. Most of the time, they don't know the correct information.
Next time, fax the info to the hotel. You might get better results. BTW, I have a thread right now about less than magical CMs. The bad service is rampant.

I found out about the call board the hard way on a trip to All Star Sports.

Since I arrived early before my room was ready, I checked in and went straight to the parks with my DS. When I got to my room that night (pretty late) I had no pack 'n play for my DS (which I requested on my reservation and again when I checked in!).

I called what I thought was the front desk and asked for the pack 'n play. 20 minutes later...nothing. So I call again. "You haven't got it yet??" "Um...No...Why would I be calling again." 20 minutes later.....nothing. I call again. Mind you it is late and I'm getting p.o.'d. They tell me they are just a call desk and it would be quicker if I went to the front desk. Are you kidding me??? So I go down to the frontdesk with my sleeping DS (I was by myself with DS) and ask WTH is going on???

They have no information about my requesting a pack 'n play at check in, say they didn't know I had requested one on my original reservation, and had no information that I had called twice in the last hour for one. How is this possible???? The call board is useless.
 
We had a terrible time in 2006, when we went with the kids for the first time (DD3 and DS10mths) and it was not the CMs but the bus drivers yelling at us for bringing strollers on the buses everytime we went some where.

We were there for 10 days and I have to say when we were leaving I had never been so happy. All the other times we were always sad, but this time it was like someone took off the blinders and I was seeing Disney in a different light. The sight of Mickey was making me cringe.

But about a year later I slowly started to get that urge and we hopefully will be doing things different... like renting a car.

I did write a letter to customer service about a year later and they did get back to me with a reply letter, letting me know if I needed to talk more about to call the number on the letter. I never did call, but was grateful for the apology. (though a free vacation would have been better....JK)
 
in CM's and service.

We just spent 11 day's at POFQ and it was not what we had hoped.
Dh has never stayed onsite so we decided to give it a whirl.
2 women in the food court were the rudest, nastiest people I've encountered in a LONG time. I am a manager of Guest Services and honestly, if I witness any of our employee's acting the way these girls did, they would be written up immediately. we did speak to the hotel manager (after the food court manager who didn't really seem to care) and the Hotel manager seemed interested and said he would talk to the head of the Food Court about it.

Housekeeping did just the bare minimum. Made beds and left towels. Sometimes they left soap, others not. No coffee after the first day. My dd had a accident and I told the housekeeper in the am and she was ( or seemed) very put out about this.

Not the disney attitude i remember from when I was onsite as a child/teen that's for sure.

Next year my kids want to go back to VA so it is probably a good idea to get a break from disney (ACK, did I just say that???)
 
Oh, I hope this isn't so. Not my Disney. I thought a wonderful attitude and a love for Disney were the two main requirements for working there. Some days, I am not happy at my job for whatever reason, but I don't try to take it out on my customers. Sometimes I can't honor a request like access into a certain area, but I always try to help as much as possible. I would love to work at Disney and would consider it an honor. What is wrong with people today?
 
Through my work, I have been seeing that there are so many young people with no work ethics and it just keeps getting worse. I'm not saying all young people because there are some outstanding young people out there, but a large portion. They want top dollar..do what they want...follow their own rules...show up when they want... and yeah get this one don't tell them what to do. I guess Disney's not immune to this problem also. Maybe Disney should have some mystery guests like mystery shoppers and those not doing their jobs properly should be sent home without pay. Get them in their pay checks and maybe they'll do the job they were hired for.

Sorry you had such a bad experience. We're going in Nov and haven't been in 10 years, I hope we don't have this kind of experience. DH would not be a happy camper.
 
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