Bachlorette...thoughts...

[Pam]

My local news kept giving these teasers during the show about Trista supposedly knowing one of the guys before the show. I stayed up - or tried to , I fell asleep and woke up just as the end of the news was on.

Does anyone have the scoop on this?
Pam

 

[Buckalew]

I won't comment on Dan's remark because I'm irritated with him at the moment.

I really don't care who she sleeps with or when. My comment was about the fact that I took her cooments to the host to mean that intimacy is the next step in a relationship and to know IF you want to marry someone you'd better sleep with them first. For those who believe that, fine. I disagree. But that is just MO. The fact that it sickens me is because I know a lot of young high school aged girls who watch this show and I wonder how they process all these ideas.

I felt like there was nothing left to "wondering" whether she did or didn't sleep with them. If I was left to wondering, I'd choose to believe that they fell asleep in each others arm & there was no sex. But, of course, it doesn't matter anymore because everything is acceptable these days--so what if she did.

Agreeing with Snoopy, the "ick" factor is the same for the first bachelor as I feel about Trista.

 

[disykat]

I don't think it's true that no one blinked an eye when sex was implied on the first bachelor. It has been much discussed here (and anywhere else I've discussed this) that people have been "icked" by watching almost any level of intimacy between numerous partners on each of the shows.

Although I didn't really watch last night, there seems to have been less of it on Bachelorette than on previous shows. I agree that we don't know exactly what happened behind those doors, but I'm pretty "icked" regardless. Charlie made it clear in a previous episode that if she was to choose him, he wasn't sharing her with others. Although I think she is a better match with Charlie, I think Ryan would be more forgiving.

I can't imagine anything more heartbreaking than watching a guy/girl you are falling for having these other relationships. I can't imagine that any relationship will survive the seperation during the airing of the series.

 

[sharbear]

Ryan was on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday (it's a radio show). The guys on the show were so funny. They said that they really liked Ryan (I guess he had a very short pro football career) but that they couldn't stand Trista. They kept calling her high maintenance and said that they hoped that Ryan wouldn't end up with her. Ryan said that the hardest thing was to watch Trista making out with these other guys. He said that he watching the show in a bar with his friends. He said that when he is on that the bar is quiet and when the other guys are on it is really noisy. He said that this is the only way he can watch it. I thought that it was really sweet and said something about how guys feel. I like Ryan the best but I have to agree that I think that she'll pick Charlie. Too bad, but maybe Ryan deserves better than Trista.

 

[Dan Murphy]

Originally posted by Buckalew
I won't comment on Dan's remark because I'm irritated with him at the moment.....

What did I do??

Originally posted by snoopy
C'mon, Dan, you must be at least a little bit curious, you always end up on these threads!

Yes, curious, snoop, as I said on the phone today, as to what depths the TV programs will stoop for viewship/revnues. And to see how the folks on the DIS react to it.


Obviously my earlier thoughts on this thread are tongue-in-cheek.

My personal thoughts, as I told you today, snoop, (and any others who may read this) are only these. I really don't care what anybody does with their lives, loves or relationships, not my place to. I may think, for me, what they do is wrong, but not for me to say to anyone what is right for them.

What I do think is bordering on criminal is way the stations, ABC in this instance, make it seem like it is not only the normal thing to do, but the expected and oh-so-fun and non-consequential thing to do with hoping in and out of bed, on the most casual of bases, with not only a person you may have some feelings for, but also for just trying them out, on a sequential basis. And if he/she/they did not sleep with each other, the station is still to be faulted, IMO, for trying, apparently successfully, in making people think and presume that is the way it was/is.

As for me, maybe I am from an old fogey generation (I was already 24 when it was the summer of love and flowers, sex and drugs in San Francisco, though I was there in '68). Maybe it is because I am will be 60 in less than two years. Don't know. But I do know, forgetting about the moral side of it (that is for everyone to decide themselves) that when we were bringing up our two kids, Vince, now 25 and Natalie, now 22, that, in addition to the moral aspects (we do believe in that) of such encounters, that today there are VERY significant health aspects of such promiscuity.

And to see it constantly in your face, weekly, daily, hourly, in multiple medium formats, movie, TV, etc (in this case, primetime, network TV), the message our children hear is so very mixed. And I do not speak on MY children for the most part. They are pretty grown and have their mores, for good or bad, and they will live, or die with them. We have tried to give them the basic, hopefully they will run with it. But even they, I am sure are subject to the pressures that shows like this put out........it is okay, very normal, very expected to conduct yourself in this manner. As for blood tests, maybe they give the hookers and johns blood tests for TV, but I know the kids in my neighborhood do not get blood tests on a daily basis around here. Unlike sexual promiscuity when I was not married, (and for the record, I was not) today, you can get killed from it. THAT is what gripes me, about this show, (and I have never seen a moment of it, only really what I read here for the most part, I do trust my DIS family to give a good insight to the world for me) and the 'entertainment' industry in general.

Hoping off my soapbox, ready for the flames........

 

[aahmom1]

Dan, I really agree with you. There is so much of it on TV anymore. I would just rather not have the TV on while my kids are up anymore. Tonight on Friends, which I rarely watch, the said a couple of words that I thought were extremely low class, and that's on at 8, supposedly the TV hour when children can watch. Not my kids.

 

[zurgswife]

Sal....on the friday prior to the shuttle accident it was reported on the news that Greg tried to board a flight to LA with cocaine and was arrested....after that I never heard another thing....

She is an adult and can choose whom she sleeps with or not....but I think it's sad that they make it so obvious to the view that that is what they might be doing....don't show them entering the rooms....just leave them after the "hot tub" but before they head to the room or rooms....I don't care/needed to know....

 

[snoopy]

Dan, what you say makes a lot of sense, actually.

And I love all the graphics.

 

[TRAPPED-PARENT]

My kids are 17 & 18 and watched at least a portion of the show with me.

It provided me an another parenting opportunity to express how our family and our faith view this type of promiscuity - both from a moral and physical/mental health perspective. We actually (the three of us) made icky noises together and really yucked it up as to what idiots these people come across on TV and how stupid they are in thinking this is the way to find their "true love". Sometimes it was almost like watching a cartoon with Trista making all her baby sounds and the guys expressing and groveling about their undying love (after a couple of dates?) for her. Get real!!!

Most children (yes, even one's as old as mine) watch how we react to events and store this bit of information away. Studies have shown how much influence parents still have on their teenagers even though they (the teens) "pretend" that they could care less.

Make lemonade out of lemons and use the opportunity as a good parenting lesson ... the kids are going to see this junk and so you might as well use it to your advantage.

 

[Tuffcookie]

Dan stated the way I feel too, only now I don't have to say it and be thought a prude!

TC

 

[suzannen]

Apparently on The View Trista stated that she was only "intimate" with the one she finally chose. Even so, why do we have to know? I'd rather they cut away and leave it to our own imaginations. I long for the days of the sheet hanging between Clark Gable and Claudette Colbert. Some mystery is good!

 

[helenabear]

LOL TC

I feel exactly as Dan does. There is very little TV that I actually really enjoy watching now. Language and content that used to only be found on HBO and Cinemax is now out in regular TV stations and during prime time as well. There are some shows that I used to watch that I no longer do because they have just gotten worse over the last few years. I don't need to see or hear much of what is shown on TV. As many have said she is an adult and she can choose what she wants to do. I have no problem with that... she can do as she wants and it won't affect me. I don't, however need to know what she does. And no I don't watch these shows either... I read here to get an idea of what goes on with these so-called "reality" shows. It truthfully makes me glad that I don't watch as well.

A lot of older movies & the like had a lot of the same plots that are out there today... they just did a much better job of leaving it up to our imaginations as to what happened (if anything) "behind closed doors"