How do you build a lasting relationship though with a girl who runs off to marry some other guy out of spite, uses his money to get new b**bs, poses topless for a calendar, competes in some skanky bikini contest, worked for Hooters and whom other woman can't stand??
Now that's a daughter in law I LOOK FORWARD TO!
OMG, I just thought of something! Jake's family already didn't care for Vienna when they 1st met her and that was BEFORE all the trashy stories and pics came out!
Can you imagine?? I wonder if they're going to stage an intervention with Jake? Remember, he said that he couldn't imagine being with a woman that his family didn't like, that it was a deal breaker. I really feel sad for his family though because this is going to affect them too, having to deal with a trashy fiance.
Ya, I'm sure it's every mother-in-laws dream!
It's not a black eye, it's another attempt at makeup!!
That's what I was thinking!
Ya, I'm sure it's every mother-in-laws dream!
My thoughts exactly. Jake's thinking with the little head instead of the big one. 
Um, so where did the topless and otherwise skanky pictures come from? Are they all photoshopped? I like Ali, too. The "50 guys" comment was a joke and doesn't bother me at all.
Jake and his trailer trash in laws fighting over whether or not he's treating her like a "princess"....
JAKE!!! Your future is CALLING!!!
Seriously though, I think she's a strong, independant woman who knows what she wants out of a relationship. I do think she's tad self-absorbed and very driven. Those aren't the worst qualities in the world though, just look at Vienna! I'll totally watch and see how she does.
He did say he loved Vienna specifically, I remember commenting about it last night.
I didn't see that at all. To me she seemed like she was still in love with him and still devastated.
And then on ATFR, he says that other people don't know "her values".
For a guy who talks so much about values, he doesn't seem to care much about living them.
And I know Vienna swoons and makes goo goo eyes at Jake all the time, but it looks so fake to me. I don't think she really loves him at all. Whenever she'd talk to the camera about how much she loved him, she'd look away from the camera, up at the ceiling or whatever. Something people often do when lying. Plus, what on earth does a young, party-girl see in an older, sort of boring guy like Jake? When I was Vienna's age, I was a little more mature and a lot less trashy, but I still would have looked at Jake as a sort of hot, but dull, old man.
I still think Jake is a nice guy, I think he's been totally fooled by Vienna, and that Vienna will drop him like a rock once she's been "engaged" to him long enough to think she can believeably pretend she was sincere on the show.
I like Ali, too. The "50 guys" comment was a joke and doesn't bother me at all.
Yes, exactly! I had read somewhere that she went on the show just to get famous and didn't expect to last as long as she did. I'm sure on ATFR, she and Jake would have called it a made-up tabloid story, but it just fits with the way she has acted all season long.
