Baby #19 for the Duggars born!

[Halloweenqueen]

Wow, I didn't know their views included subservant women. How sad.

It's their hunger for fame that has them having more children...Not their desire to promote their views. This reminds me of the McCaughey family. They have strong, conservative views, but chose to stay out of the limelight. I'm sure they could have had their own show, but had the dignity to say no.

 

[TinkPinkPoem]

Jim Bob Duggar: As far as my children, my goal, especially for my sons is to be able to develop skills so they can hopefully provide for their families in the future. I also want my daughters to develop skills so they can provide if they had to. Some of my daughters may get nursing degrees. My sons, it really depends on their interests.

Ok, so they focus on the sons developing skills in order to provide for their families, and some of the daughters may get a nursing degree, if by chance, they have to provide for the family other than raisining babies or running a household. I am not saying it's easy to run a household, but they should be able to go out and work and not rely exclusively to their husbands, which I think is what he is more or less saying. The sons get to choose a degree based on their interests and the daughters may get a nursing degree.

I think it is very clear how they view their daughters vs. how they view their sons.

For you and also to Happygirl...and to the mods--if this is inappropriate, feel free to delete.

The problem with college--not that it is a bad problem--is that they would want a college/university teaching to the Biblical pincipals that they as a family believe in.

This does not have to be a bad problem as there are accredited biblical/christian institutions out there. However, due to their views--I think they will be hard pressed to find an accredited version of what they are looking for.

So they are not anti-college. They just have a very specific goal in the college choice which will lend itself to making it difficult to find anything accredited that would be respected by viewers. (i.e. they will never have a child that they'll happily send off to a state school or to Harvard IMHO--but that is just what I gathered from their interviews on that subject as Biblical principals are extremely important to them in education.)

I am not debating the point--but sharing my observation of their interviews.

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I agree.

 

[BibbidiBobbidiBOO]

The birth shows are usually immediate specials that get aired soon after. I thought that was the way with Michelle's last 2 births and I do know that that is what happened with Josh and Anna's baby. (I believe it aired the following week if not the 2nd week after baby was born.)

Josh and Anna's birth show was the next Tues, I remember being shocked it aired so quick.

I just saw online that Jessa's b'day was Nov. 4th. I think that episode aired Dec. 1st (they drove back to the Bates and they got Pedicures). Pretty quick. I imagine they knew it was a girl by this point.

I don't know how much of Josie's birth and the gallstone issues we will see. I imagine it depends on how things are going. Looks like the next 2 are already done, then a long break with a Christmas one end of Jan. They will probably be changed now, not sure that was filmed yet!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18_Kids_and_Counting_episodes

 

[NotUrsula]

ETA- what are the odds of someone having that many sets of multiples without any fertlity treatment? Thats just insane.

Multiples just run in some families. My sister's best friend in HS came from such a family. There were 11 children, and 9 of them were multiples: one set of triplets and three sets of twins. They were all born in the early to mid 1950's.

When I was in college I used to do phone surveys for a living (evil, I know, but I had to eat, and this company paid very well.) We used to ask demographic questions at the end of the survey, and it was very common for older ladies to reel off birthdays to answer the question of "how many children do you have?" You would be amazed at how many of them mentioned recurring multiples.

 

[Chicago526]

Ok, so they focus on the sons developing skills in order to provide for their families, and some of the daughters may get a nursing degree, if by chance, they have to provide for the family other than raisining babies or running a household. I am not saying it's easy to run a household, but they should be able to go out and work and not rely exclusively to their husbands, which I think is what he is more or less saying. The sons get to choose a degree based on their interests and the daughters may get a nursing degree.

I think it is very clear how they view their daughters vs. how they view their sons.

Yup! I'm willing to bet that they are okay with their daughters getting a higher education...just as long as it's an "approved gender appropriate" career. Like a teacher or nurse. Perhaps some sort of business degree if their aim is to help their husband run a business. Something tells me doctor, lawyer, fighter pilot, etc. would all be out of the question. And working once children are born would be a huge no-no, again with the possible exception of helping their husbands run a buisness.

I do not think they are bad people. I think they truely believe they are doing what God wants them to do. I think as parents go, they aren't the worst around, not even close. Their kids are healthy and appear to be happy. Lord knows there are tons of parents that have done much worse.

All that said, this is not a young woman in her 20's with her 1st pregnancy, this is a woman in her 40's on her 19th. You can't compare the risk factors between a younger woman with a handfull of pregnancies to an older woman with over a dozen. They know it's more risk for both Michelle and the child with each passing pregnancy and they choose to do it anyway. I consider that to be irresponsible in the extreme. Faith in God does NOT obsolve you from personal responsibility. When you have to doctor shop to find a person willing to take you on as a patient, that's God's way of telling you it's time to stop. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that her current OB took her on only because the doctor knew she was going to have another one anyway, and this way she'd at least get the best care possible, and not because the OB in any way thought it was safe.

They have the absolute right to have as many kids as they want, even knowing the risks. Even if they were told that it was 100% certain that their next child would be disabled, it would still be their right to have another. But just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

I wish nothing but the best for Michelle and the new baby. I also very much hope that this will be their last. But my fear is that the only thing that will stop them will be either menopause or Michelle's death.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Yup! I'm willing to bet that they are okay with their daughters getting a higher education...just as long as it's an "approved gender appropriate" career. Like a teacher or nurse. Perhaps some sort of business degree if their aim is to help their husband run a business. Something tells me doctor, lawyer, fighter pilot, etc. would all be out of the question. And working once children are born would be a huge no-no, again with the possible exception of helping their husbands run a buisness.


All that said, this is not a young woman in her 20's with her 1st pregnancy, this is a woman in her 40's on her 19th. You can't compare the risk factors between a younger woman with a handfull of pregnancies to an older woman with over a dozen. They know it's more risk for both Michelle and the child with each passing pregnancy and they choose to do it anyway. I consider that to be irresponsible in the extreme. Faith in God does NOT obsolve you from personal responsibility. When you have to doctor shop to find a person willing to take you on as a patient, that's God's way of telling you it's time to stop. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that her current OB took her on only because the doctor knew she was going to have another one anyway, and this way she'd at least get the best care possible, and not because the OB in any way thought it was safe.

They have the absolute right to have as many kids as they want, even knowing the risks. Even if they were told that it was 100% certain that their next child would be disabled, it would still be their right to have another. But just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

I wish nothing but the best for Michelle and the new baby. I also very much hope that this will be their last. But my fear is that the only thing that will stop them will be either menopause or Michelle's death.

That's a tough one--possibly true in Michelle's case, but there are many women who have to doctor shop b/c OB's--due to malpractice insurance will not "allow" things such as VBACs when the risk is very small for uterine rupture. And there is an ongoing debate that if a hospital cannot be ready to do an emergency C in that case, how would they handle someone not in that situation who has to have an emergency C due to any other host of things that can occur during labor. She doctor shopped for that reason alone--she wanted the VBAC.

I can't walk in those shoes as I've never (knock on wood)have had a c-section requiring me tomake such a decision, but she did not doctor shop for permission to be pregnant or have a baby as no woman in this country is required to do. But MANY MANY women will doctor shop be it their first or their 5th or whatever number pregnancy for a variety of reasons. That is not a sign of anything other than a society that as clincal-ized (so not a word, but don't know how else to say it) having a baby.

I get the point that she has 19--I find it to be valid actually as far as health of her reproductive organs. However--her number of kids had nothing to do with her doctor shopping. Back in the beginning of this--I did look up the quiverfull stuff and I was a bit...shocked...that women do endanger themselves willfully. Like--they near died in one childbirth, and then they go onto continue. The only stories I came across were success stories though. Ones where nothing bad happened. I have no idea when we'll hear of something devestating in regards to it killing mom. I just do not have the level of faith required to do such a thing.

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As for the ladies--I don't see any signs that anyone would do anything to out of--a sexist norm of a career choice. But I don't see that as a travesty. (I'm personally not a big women's libber. I like that I chose to be a SAH mom--but when I get told how I should not conform to such gender roles, I get a bit put off at being brushed off as a waste when I willfully chose that role.)

I do have a funny story on sexism and role division though--and for a family that is so polar opposite to the Duggar's--well except for the used car lot as a family business.

This was my stepfather's family in Greenville, SC. It was his mom's family. One fine Thanksgiving we journeyed up to their version of hillbilly heck. Thanksgiving meal was all prepped and served by the women folk while the men sat around as lazy as can be. (Gotta say at least on the Duggar show--the menfolk ain't sitting on their rumps waitin' for their sweet tea!) Now--I did not help in the prep as I was merely a visitor from planet--we'll-pretend-you-don't-exist b/c you took our El-veee. His name was Elvis--I kid you not and that was the nickname . They considered my mom a harlot and us kids as the...ummm...welll.....the b-word for children without fathers (even though we had them). We weren't even good enough in their eyes to be considered Black Sheep.

But when it came time to serve--as we all got ready to line up to the buffet, it was announced that all the women will step aside so that the men could get to eatin' first.



O-M-G My mom and I looked at each other like--you have got to be kidding!!! We weren't first in line--but heck--there were tons of men there and they all had to be served first.

That was our first and last Thanksgiving at that place.

So when I see the Duggar's, I see a breath of fresh air. Sure they do things that fall along gender lines--but I've never seen such...shenanigans as I describe above.

And I though I say I am far from being a women's libber--if I ever saw that crap again, I'd speak up and not be sorry.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

As for the ladies--I don't see any signs that anyone would do anything to out of--a sexist norm of a career choice. But I don't see that as a travesty. (I'm personally not a big women's libber. I like that I chose to be a SAH mom--but when I get told how I should not conform to such gender roles, I get a bit put off at being brushed off as a waste when I willfully chose that role.)

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The problems that most of us see is not the fact that they would choose to have a career based upon gender specified role, but that they are being taught that it is the only career they are to have. I am a mostly SAHM by choice and feel blessed to be able to do that, but I thank the Lord that I was not pressured into it. And, when it comes to my daughters, I expect them to do whatever it is they are called to do, be it a SAHM, a nurse, or a lawyer, doctor, mechanic, etc. I honestly feel that if one of the Duggar daughter's chose to work outside of the home after having children, they would be looked down upon by their family for their decision.

 

[TinkPinkPoem]

As for the ladies--I don't see any signs that anyone would do anything to out of--a sexist norm of a career choice. But I don't see that as a travesty. (I'm personally not a big women's libber. I like that I chose to be a SAH mom--but when I get told how I should not conform to such gender roles, I get a bit put off at being brushed off as a waste when I willfully chose that role.)

I think the travesty is that they are most likely not taught that they can pursue any career they wish, like they teach their boys, and don't leave it up to them to choose.

I would never tell a SAHM she's a waste, that is outrageous. I would however respectfully disagree to whomever taught girls that this was their only destination in life and that any education they would get would be a means to that end. I would also disagree with people that would undermine a woman's choice to become a SAHM. It goes both ways.

The problems that most of us see is not the fact that they would choose to have a career based upon gender specified role, but that they are being taught that it is the only career they are to have. I am a mostly SAHM by choice and feel blessed to be able to do that, but I thank the Lord that I was not pressured into it. And, when it comes to my daughters, I expect them to do whatever it is they are called to do, be it a SAHM, a nurse, or a lawyer, doctor, mechanic, etc. I honestly feel that if one of the Duggar daughter's chose to work outside of the home after having children, they would be looked down upon by their family for their decision.

Oh, absolutely, I think it is one thing to choose to be a SAHM and another to be taught that you will be a SAHM unless under certain circumstances you have to provide financially, too. Also, the fact that their career choices seem to be confined by gender stereotypes is very anachronistic, to say the least. I, too, think that the girls would be looked down should they pursue some sort of financial independency and that is sad.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The problems that most of us see is not the fact that they would choose to have a career based upon gender specified role, but that they are being taught that it is the only career they are to have. I am a mostly SAHM by choice and feel blessed to be able to do that, but I thank the Lord that I was not pressured into it. And, when it comes to my daughters, I expect them to do whatever it is they are called to do, be it a SAHM, a nurse, or a lawyer, doctor, mechanic, etc. I honestly feel that if one of the Duggar daughter's chose to work outside of the home after having children, they would be looked down upon by their family for their decision.

I could see how that be, but at the same time--the way they present themselves. They seem to be extremely tolerant for folks who are different than them. So even if the kids chose something different--as long as it weren't downright scandalous, I don't think they'd bat an eye. And even then, I think they would love them anyway.

There is another family that was featured when they started covering all these large families--I don't remember their name. Jeub? Maybe? Anyway--they lived extremely frugal by necessity and I recall that they actually excommunicated the oldest daughter when she had a child out of wedlock. And the manner in which they did that seemed extremely harsh.

They are not a gender-role-stereotyped family (at least from the one show on which they were featured), but I just don't see Jimbob and Michelle going to that extreme just b/c a daughter decided to be a doctor instead of a nurse or an engineer instead of a midwife or if they worked post kids.

It is hard to say whether the girls are choosing or not. I think both viewpoints can be defended. But it is something we truly will never know for 100% certain. But that is true of any parenting style where essentially all of us choose how we will raise our children.

I have a SIL who did not work from the day she was married. It was a choice she made. She did not have children until 3 years into their marriage (they were waiting until it was closer to them relocating from cross country back to Florida.) I have no way of knowing if that is how she was raised or not, but her and her DH were quite happy and her income was not needed. I have no idea what she did for 3 years. FWIW--her mother did work as a nurse.

 

[DMRick]

A previous interview about her health

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Celebrities/2009/10/Michelle-and-Jim-Bob-Duggar.aspx?p=2

What do Michelle's doctors say about her having so many children? Is she healthy enough to continue to have children?

Michelle Duggar: The last time we delivered our baby, [my doctor] said my uterus looked wonderful. It was a transverse presentation, so we had to have a C-section. She said everything looked great. I'm just thankful that I have good health. I don't take that for granted. We're grateful for the baby that we're expecting right now.

Jim Bob Duggar: If you saw Michelle, you would think that this was her first pregnancy. She looks so great.

There was a really good article last week in the NY Daily News where they interviewed a doctor at a woman's medical research group and asked her about Michelle having all these children. I was really surprised--it was nothing but positive. The main research doctor said that Michelle probably would have less chance of having breast cancer, ovarian cancer and she went on to talk about how the uterus is a muscle and how quick it bounces back.

Michelle Duggar: She went on to express, too, that genetics have some things to do with it and there could be genetic issues with different individuals. But apparently, genetics are good in my situation to have children. That might not always be the case.

If health was to ever become a factor and you were advised not to have any more children, would you then subscribe to some sort of family planning method?

Michelle Duggar: I don't know. I'm not at that place. I guess we would just cross that bridge when we got there. If there was something that were life threatening for me, that would be a matter of prayer at that point.

Jim Bob Duggar: When Michelle [miscarried] it was just a heart change for both of us. It just broke our hearts. The change took place in our thinking back years ago with our view on children and this whole idea about who's really in charge--letting God be the one to give us life, give us children as He chooses.
And I've always left it up to Michelle, because it's her body and she's the one that's sacrificed to have all these children. But, we both really enjoy them and believe each one's a blessing from God. And each of the children is glad to be here.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Celebrities/2009/10/Michelle-and-Jim-Bob-Duggar.aspx?p=2

 

[3prettyprincesses]

A previous interview about her health

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Celebrities/2009/10/Michelle-and-Jim-Bob-Duggar.aspx?p=2

What do Michelle's doctors say about her having so many children? Is she healthy enough to continue to have children?

Michelle Duggar: The last time we delivered our baby, [my doctor] said my uterus looked wonderful. It was a transverse presentation, so we had to have a C-section. She said everything looked great. I'm just thankful that I have good health. I don't take that for granted. We're grateful for the baby that we're expecting right now.

Jim Bob Duggar: If you saw Michelle, you would think that this was her first pregnancy. She looks so great.

There was a really good article last week in the NY Daily News where they interviewed a doctor at a woman's medical research group and asked her about Michelle having all these children. I was really surprised--it was nothing but positive. The main research doctor said that Michelle probably would have less chance of having breast cancer, ovarian cancer and she went on to talk about how the uterus is a muscle and how quick it bounces back.

Michelle Duggar: She went on to express, too, that genetics have some things to do with it and there could be genetic issues with different individuals. But apparently, genetics are good in my situation to have children. That might not always be the case.

If health was to ever become a factor and you were advised not to have any more children, would you then subscribe to some sort of family planning method?

Michelle Duggar: I don't know. I'm not at that place. I guess we would just cross that bridge when we got there. If there was something that were life threatening for me, that would be a matter of prayer at that point.

Jim Bob Duggar: When Michelle [miscarried] it was just a heart change for both of us. It just broke our hearts. The change took place in our thinking back years ago with our view on children and this whole idea about who's really in charge--letting God be the one to give us life, give us children as He chooses.
And I've always left it up to Michelle, because it's her body and she's the one that's sacrificed to have all these children. But, we both really enjoy them and believe each one's a blessing from God. And each of the children is glad to be here.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Celebrities/2009/10/Michelle-and-Jim-Bob-Duggar.aspx?p=2

Hi Doris

Thanks for posting this article, I think it helps to understand Michelle's mindset and whether she's physically causing damage to her body by so many pregnancies. Goodness, her uterus must be made of steel!

I think the last part is interesting, Jimbob leaving it up to Michelle. Doesn't that go against what others are claiming about them? That due to their beliefs, she SHOULD keep pro-creating? Anyhow, I found it an interesting comment. I sincerely, truly hope little Josie is doing well and that she's able to recover without lasting effects.

 

[mhsjax]

Hi Doris

Thanks for posting this article, I think it helps to understand Michelle's mindset and whether she's physically causing damage to her body by so many pregnancies. Goodness, her uterus must be made of steel!

I think the last part is interesting, Jimbob leaving it up to Michelle. Doesn't that go against what others are claiming about them? That due to their beliefs, she SHOULD keep pro-creating? Anyhow, I found it an interesting comment. I sincerely, truly hope little Josie is doing well and that she's able to recover without lasting effects.

Yes it does go against what others are saying about them. But what most people don't know because they are so busy being mad at the whole wife submitting to husband thing, is that husband are also to submit to their wives. That part just conveniently gets left out by so many people that don't understand. Not trying to discuss religion, but I just wanted to add that part, in reference to what the Duggars believe.

 

[disney1990]

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyl...ue_to_preecclampsia__dangerous_high_bloo.html

It looks like future pregnancies would likely have the same outcome as this one.

 

[gaelic grace]

This thread makes me so sad. I have friends who have children with disabilities and I'm always amazed by some of the hateful things that people say to them.The chances are this baby will have some challenges- maybe big ones and maybe she won't live. Each of us that have participated in bringing a child into the world have taken on this risk. Who makes the decision on what life is worthy is to be here or what risk we are allowed to take?

I have watched several episodes where Michelle talks about all the things she did career wise early on in their marriage and how they want their daughters to be able to help if that's what they choose. I fully believe that they would be supportive of alternate positions. Josh and Anna have said they don't plan on having that many children. Jim Bob's sister had a child out of wedlock and didn't even get married until a few year's ago and they are close. Their own parents don't agree with everything but yet they are still a family. I don't think people know what to do when someone fully lives their faith. I believe that regardless of what happens God will use this to do great things.

 

[luvmy3]

A previous interview about her health

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Celebrities/2009/10/Michelle-and-Jim-Bob-Duggar.aspx?p=2

What do Michelle's doctors say about her having so many children? Is she healthy enough to continue to have children?

Michelle Duggar: The last time we delivered our baby, [my doctor] said my uterus looked wonderful. It was a transverse presentation, so we had to have a C-section. She said everything looked great. I'm just thankful that I have good health. I don't take that for granted. We're grateful for the baby that we're expecting right now.

Jim Bob Duggar: If you saw Michelle, you would think that this was her first pregnancy. She looks so great.

There was a really good article last week in the NY Daily News where they interviewed a doctor at a woman's medical research group and asked her about Michelle having all these children. I was really surprised--it was nothing but positive. The main research doctor said that Michelle probably would have less chance of having breast cancer, ovarian cancer and she went on to talk about how the uterus is a muscle and how quick it bounces back.

Michelle Duggar: She went on to express, too, that genetics have some things to do with it and there could be genetic issues with different individuals. But apparently, genetics are good in my situation to have children. That might not always be the case.

If health was to ever become a factor and you were advised not to have any more children, would you then subscribe to some sort of family planning method?

Michelle Duggar: I don't know. I'm not at that place. I guess we would just cross that bridge when we got there. If there was something that were life threatening for me, that would be a matter of prayer at that point.

Jim Bob Duggar: When Michelle [miscarried] it was just a heart change for both of us. It just broke our hearts. The change took place in our thinking back years ago with our view on children and this whole idea about who's really in charge--letting God be the one to give us life, give us children as He chooses.
And I've always left it up to Michelle, because it's her body and she's the one that's sacrificed to have all these children. But, we both really enjoy them and believe each one's a blessing from God. And each of the children is glad to be here.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Celebrities/2009/10/Michelle-and-Jim-Bob-Duggar.aspx?p=2

I find it disturbing that this woman doesn't even know if she would stop having children if it was advised not to because of health issues.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I find it disturbing that this woman doesn't even know if she would stop having children if it was advised not to because of health issues.

Well, she hasn't been advised not too yet so she probably can't imagine that ever happening. Obviously this interview was done before little Josie was born prematurely. My guess would be that she would stop if after her last baby (ie Josie) the doctor told her that things could go badly next time. I don't think she's an idiot nor do I think she'd want to risk having babies with issues.

Honestly, I really think she's been pregnant for so long that the idea of NOT being pregnant is very foreign to her. I also think that she cares (provides) for the babies too, not just the older girls. I have seen many an episode where she's walking around with the newest addition. Has anyone considered that perhaps the older girls actually like helping out with a new baby? Some girls are like that, I recall when I had my 1st baby that whenever we went to church, the teen girls were begging to hold mine. Heck, if I got pregnant now, my new baby and my oldest child would be 11 years apart. I would certainly let my eldest help me out. Do we really know that Michelle just hands off the babies when they're born? I don't know that for certain. Their buddy system seems to apply to toddler ages and up. Even still, it's obvious to me that Jimbob and Michelle are the authority in that house despite the buddy system being in place. Yes, we see the older girls holding the newborn babies but that's only a snippet of time. Quite possibly that might have been the only time they held the baby all day. We don't know because we aren't there and the show isn't 24/7, know what I mean?

 

[luvmy3]

Well, she hasn't been advised not too yet so she probably can't imagine that ever happening. Obviously this interview was done before little Josie was born prematurely. My guess would be that she would stop if after her last baby (ie Josie) the doctor told her that things could go badly next time. I don't think she's an idiot nor do I think she'd want to risk having babies with issues.

Honestly, I really think she's been pregnant for so long that idea of NOT being pregnant is very foreign to her. I also think that she cares (provides) for the babies too, not just the older girls. I have seen many an episode where she's walking around with the newest addition. Has anyone considered that perhaps the older girls actually like helping out with a new baby? Some girls are like that, I recall when I had my 1st baby that whenever we went to church, the teen girls were begging to hold mine. Heck, if I got pregnant now, my new baby and my oldest child would be 11 years apart. I would certainly let my eldest help me out. Do we really know that Michelle just hands off the babies when they're born? I don't know that for certain. Their buddy system seems to apply to toddler ages and up. Even still, it's obvious to me that Jimbob and Michelle are the authority in that house despite the buddy system being in place.

I have never had a premature baby or been advised not to have any more children, but if I was there would be no doubt that I would follow that advice, for the sake of myself, my children and any unborn children.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I have never had a premature baby or been advised not to have any more children, but if I was there would be no doubt that I would follow that advice, for the sake of myself, my children and any unborn children.

So would I. And I think Michelle would as well. Again, that interview was done before Josie was born so I'm sure Michelle couldn't fathom a time where pregnancy would be detrimental, you know? She's had a streak of 18 healthy children. Perhaps she thinks her uterus has some kind of super power! I'm kidding of course.

 

[luvmy3]

So would I. And I think Michelle would as well. Again, that interview was done before Josie was born so I'm sure Michelle couldn't fathom a time where pregnancy would be detrimental, you know? She's had a streak of 18 healthy children. Perhaps she thinks her uterus has some kind of super power! I'm kidding of course.

Maybe, but the fact that she couldn't say *yes* to that question just disturbs me. Perhaps her answer now would be different but I wouldn't be surprised if we see them within in a year on a morning show announcing #20

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Maybe, but the fact that she couldn't say *yes* to that question just disturbs me. Perhaps her answer now would be different but I wouldn't be surprised if we see them within in a year on a morning show announcing #20

She might have been hesitant to give a firm yes to that question because she seems to have a lot of guilt over the miscarriage she had while on the pill early on in their marriage. It's really hard to know exactly what her thought process is. Personally, I wouldn't want to try for another when I'd delivered a 24 week preemie due to pre-eclampsia. That alone would scare the tar out of me. It's dangerous for both mother and baby. I remember with my first child having a fluke BP reading of 140/90 and my OB/GYN freaked out and put me on bedrest for 2 days. Everything was fine, no issues with my BP for the rest of my pregnancy or subsequent ones. Still, it is serious business. I'm sure her doctor will explain that to her.