Aulani Point Charts - Posted online by DVC

[aan1701]

Kind of disappointed in the amount of points it will cost. Our plan was to use this as a weekend getaway since we live here but need to re look.

It already looks like a gorgeous resort though.

As I do agree the resort looks absolutely awesome, it is way to many points per night plus tax. Thank you, but no thanks. Looks like you and I are in the minority.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Still..since the people who are actually staying at the resort will have to pay the tax part of the dues...will the owners still have to pay tax part f their dues for the points they own? I am still confused.

It's not a property tax the people who stay there are paying....It's a hotel tax for lenght of stay only. Owners will still have to pay the exhorbitant property taxes in Hawaii on top of that. I expect the dues at Aulani to be horrendous.

 

[DenLo]

It's not a property tax the people who stay there are paying....It's a hotel tax for lenght of stay only. Owners will still have to pay the exhorbitant property taxes in Hawaii on top of that. I expect the dues at Aulani to be horrendous.

Even though the property tax might be horrendous, there are a lot of units to cover the property tax. So when it's spread over roughly 10,000,000 points (estimate only) then the annual dues might not be that bad.

 

[TLPL]

Thanks DVCjohn and Dianeschicht, I understand now.

I think the point chart is not too too bad, it's actually "cheaper" to stay at Aulani than at VGC. Of couse to the average WDW DVC junkie who stays weeks at a time, and whose so use to get a studio for just 10 points a night, Aulani is a "expensive" resort.

 

[Mr_Potts]

By way of comparison, our RCI exchange to Kauai (we will be going there July 3--single digit dance!!!) cost 270 points. The equivalent standard two bedroom at Aulani for that week in Magic Season is 420 points. The question is whether the Disney difference is worth that extra 150 points. No question! FYI, we really shopped around for airfare, but the best we could do without traveling for over 24 hours was about $1000 per person form Boston to Kauai. Maybe Oahu would have been less expensive.

 

[Steamboat Girlie]

When I click on the link to see the points, it just directs me to the DVC section of Disney's website. Where is the chart???????

 

[Anal Annie]

When I click on the link to see the points, it just directs me to the DVC section of Disney's website. Where is the chart???????

They were not posted officially...Doc found them yesterday & posted a link in Post # 1 on this thread along with the points themselves. This happens often when there's a new resort coming online. They put a point chart on the website that is not necessarily DONE (final). Sometimes it's more of a draft but it's a close guestimate. I think they just do it as a test on their software. They usually disappear after a few hours like they did this time. Go back to Docs first post to see the points as he copied them.

 

[Steamboat Girlie]

They were not posted officially...Doc found them yesterday & posted a link in Post # 1 on this thread along with the points themselves. This happens often when there's a new resort coming online. They put a point chart on the website that is not necessarily DONE (final). Sometimes it's more of a draft but it's a close guestimate. I think they just do it as a test on their software. They usually disappear after a few hours like they did this time. Go back to Docs first post to see the points as he copied them.

Thanks! I got so excited I didn't even see he had posted the points!

 

[Anal Annie]

As I do agree the resort looks absolutely awesome, it is way to many points per night plus tax. Thank you, but no thanks. Looks like you and I are in the minority.

You can't compare them to say OKW but I think they look comparable to BLT (which for the record I think are high too). I like that each night is the same though as we're less likely to spend a whole week on Oahu. A week in a studio LV in Magic season (2010) is 153 pts while a studio IV in Magic season at Aulani is 168 for a whole week. For a 15 pt. difference over the course of 7 nights I consider that comparable. Meanwhile, a week in a studio in Magic season at VGC is 195 points!! THAT is not comparable IMO as that is more than just 1 whole nights difference. That's a 27 point difference. That's more than the 26 pts. for a PV studio at Aulani. VGC is the one that is super point intensive!! Oh, and have you looked at how many points it takes to stay at some of the DLP hotels?? The "cheapest" is the Sequoia Lodge at 34 points a night during the summer!! And that's just for a std. hotel room. Compared to those I think 24 / night for a IV studio in July is a good deal.

The timeshare tax thing may be a little annoying but as I understand the tax it is something you'd have to pay at ANY timeshare in the state of Hawaii so that is just something that is part of going to Hawaii just like tipping is part of cruising or eating out. Gotta add it in & budget for it.

We will still likely have to stick to studios. We just don't own enough points to upgrade to larger units during most years. Like many others, on our next trip to Hawaii we will plan to slip in a few nights at DL too. Those nights will suck down more points than Aulani!!!! THAT will have to be done on a Sun-Thur for us.

We may have some extra banked points to use for 2012 though so our first trip to Aulani may be an exception to our accomodation size for just one trip.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Right now thru RCI we have some excellent Hawaii resort choices, ie: HGVC Lagoon Towers. Wyndham's Beach Club( I think that's the name), and a couple of others. For 160 points I can get a one bedroom. I would go in the fall season anyway, so I'll save myself almost 100 points and exchange out. Plus I would rather be right in Wakiki if i'm going to stay on Oahu.

 

[DenLo]

Right now thru RCI we have some excellent Hawaii resort choices, ie: HGVC Lagoon Towers. Wyndham's Beach Club( I think that's the name), and a couple of others. For 160 points I can get a one bedroom. I would go in the fall season anyway, so I'll save myself almost 100 points and exchange out. Plus I would rather be right in Wakiki if i'm going to stay on Oahu.

Wow, you'll be right near by Aulani and you won't even stay one night?

We are in the process of planning for a possible 2012 trip with a stop at DL (VGC), Aulani and then another island. Maybe 4 nights, 4 nights, and 4 nights. If we are going to spend all that money on airfare (and the hours to get there), then we are going for at least a week combined. And if it's affordable 2 weeks.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Right now thru RCI we have some excellent Hawaii resort choices, ie: HGVC Lagoon Towers. Wyndham's Beach Club( I think that's the name), and a couple of others. For 160 points I can get a one bedroom. I would go in the fall season anyway, so I'll save myself almost 100 points and exchange out. Plus I would rather be right in Wakiki if i'm going to stay on Oahu.

This is the part about the points for Aulani that is difficult to understand. Yes, they are comparable for current park DVC's - but you have the parks right there that makes it unique. But to be closing in on double the cost of an exchange at HI seems to be pushing beyond what many people will pay.

 

[Anal Annie]

First, having been to Hawaii several times I feel that the RCI exchange list for Hawaii as as a whole is sorely lacking in "good" accomodations that are of equal standards to our DVC accomodations. Second, without Aulani I would probably rather save our DVC points and pay cash out of pocket for someplace decent on another island. Third, Oahu is not our fav. island (it's actually one of our LEAST fav) and I would be hard pressed to spend a whole week there when Maui is only a 45 min. flight away. Aulani may get us to stay more than 2 or 3 nights on Oahu but that's because it appears that it will essentially be a real resort with almost an all inclusive feel to it. When you trade thru RCI you are essentially stuck with spending a whole week in one place and Hawaii offers so much more to see than Waikiki Beach. Having "been there / done that" in Waikiki we may be content to just veg at Aulani for a few days but we'd never feel we had a complete Hawaiian vacation if we didn't island hop.

Hawaii is an expensive destination and Oahu is the cheapest of all the islands as far as hotel rates. Here's a link to the current summer rates for one of the better Outrigger properties that is probably about a 3-4 star hotel. Rates range from $279 to $649 / night depending on the view. The Sheraton Moana Surfrider starts at $299 / night. Based on the old $10 / point valuation an IV studio in the summer would be 24 points or the equivalent of $240. Sounds comparable to me considering you also get the kitchenette in the studio. As long as Aulani is available on a per night basis I wouldn't be spending cash on a room somewhere else.

http://www.outrigger.com/hotels-resorts/hawaiian-islands/oahu-waikiki/outrigger-waikiki-on-the-beach

 

[ChiSoxKeith]

We are in the process of planning for a possible 2012 trip with a stop at DL (VGC), Aulani and then another island. Maybe 4 nights, 4 nights, and 4 nights. If we are going to spend all that money on airfare (and the hours to get there), then we are going for at least a week combined. And if it's affordable 2 weeks.

We are planning something similar.......3 nights at VGC and then a week at Aulani, and maybe a night or two at VGC on the way back home to break up the flight to and from Chicago. It has been DW's dream for years to go to Hawaii and we can't wait to go.

 

[theOCdisney]

I think DVC timing is perfect to sell this resort as it relates to the Marriott competition next door. With all the changes for the Marriott product that have occured this week, I think DVC has the edge. Especially if a potential owner goes to Ko Olina and does the presentations one after the other. One of the benefits as I see it is that the DVC owner has the home resort 11 month window and will only be competing for reservations with other Aulani owners in that time period. The new Marriott Ko Olina points owner will be competing with EVERY POINTS OWNER in the Marriott system...from every points resorts! (The weeks owners will still be able to reserve their weeks as before the change.) This is huge! If I were a DVC sales rep I would hammer this point home. The cost per point is about the same and I would imagine the annual fees will be similar.

We were on the fence about adding another Marriott property or adding on DVC points. We love our Marriott properties, I have been one of their best cheerleaders, but the new Marriott program was the tipping point. The new points owners will be so much more limited and pay so much more in annual maintenance fees than the "legacy" (weeks) owners. We will be adding on at DVC. I'm sure unrelated, but interesting that the Marriott change and the Aulani points were revealed within a few days of eachother.

 

[rparmfamily]

It's not a property tax the people who stay there are paying....It's a hotel tax for lenght of stay only. Owners will still have to pay the exhorbitant property taxes in Hawaii on top of that. I expect the dues at Aulani to be horrendous.

I have friends who own here and I thought property taxes were low. Though I don't know about a resort or commercial property though.

We were out there last weekend...they are putting the windows in now!

 

[TLPL]

I bet when Aulani opens, they will take away all the resorts in Oahu that are currentky available to trade thru RCI.

 

[Scrappy_Tink]

All I can say is....



I can't believe they are that low....I was expecting to have to use three years for one week, and now see we can stay 10 days, Choice Season, Ocean View for two years worth the points. Woot Woot!!!

 

[Scrappy_Tink]

Notice they have Japanese "Golden Week" as Premier...glad our anniversary is on the 16th of May!!

 

[tiggerrr]

The timeshare tax thing may be a little annoying but as I understand the tax it is something you'd have to pay at ANY timeshare in the state of Hawaii so that is just something that is part of going to Hawaii just like tipping is part of cruising or eating out. Gotta add it in & budget for it.

What interests me is whether or not Member Services will be well prepared and well trained to explain it and answer questions about it.

I did a little quick math to see what it would be (if I still understand the tax correctly). I picked a week in a 1BR Ocean View in Adventure season (322 points) and it worked out to about $64 in tax for the week. That's not too bad, but it's also big enough that it has to be budgeted for, like you said. I can see this being a real headache for MS if they don't have good scripting or training. The worst thing would be for it not to be mentioned at all. Which may mean they turn it into a script like they do with borrowing or the cancellation policy.


PS: To get to the $64, you take one half* of the annual dues per point(rumored to be $4.31 on another thread) and multiply by the number of points for the stay and then multiply by the Transient Accomodations Tax (going to 9.25% on July 1 of this year).

322 x 4.31 x 0.5 x 0.0925 = 64.18

* The state of Hawaii defines the daily fair market value of your stay as one half of the daily annual dues for each day of your stay.