August 20, 2005 - L.A. to Port Canaveral - Eastbound Repo Cruise - The SHIP OF FOOLS Part 2

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kmiles said:
I can just see it now...

All 200 of us doing laps around Deck 4 on sea day mornings.

I'll bring the Mimosas! ;)

Just make sure you guys spread out a bit. I can just feel myself in bed rocking back and forth as 200 people go from one side of the ship to the other...

Paul
 
kmiles said:
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Arlene
 
I know we all love to find wild and wonderful excursions but this is in today's local Niagara Falls paper. Something to think about before you book an outside excursion....

Vacation tragedy for Falls family

By JOHN LAW

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:00

Local News -

NIAGARA FALLS – Andrew Vitaterna was always proud of his son Adam’s adventurous spirit. And a bit afraid.

So he wasn’t surprised last week when Adam, 11, was the first in line to jump off a short waterfall during a family vacation in the Dominican Republic. It was the last stop on a Jeep safari tour attended by several people. Minutes later, everything changed.

Andrew watched helplessly as his son was pulled under the waist-high water. Adam was a strong swimmer. He thought for something to suck him in that quickly, it must have been serious.

It took 10 minutes for the tour guides to find him, then nearly an hour before he was brought to a hospital, but it was already too late. He had drowned.

Today, nearly a week after the incident, Andrew and wife Marilena are looking for answers and warning tourists about the perils of vacationing in Third World countries.

“We worry about whether we go to a three-star resort or a four-star, a five-star,” said Andrew. “Little do we know what’s outside the walls of the resort. You’re playing with fire.

“It’s a Third World country. You have to be aware,” adds Marilena.

The Vitaternas were anxious about the first vacation in a few years with their three children (Adam, 13-year-old Nicolas and nine-year-old Livia). They chose a Caribbean resort in Puerto Plata.

The safari tour last Wednesday gave tourists a chance to see the countryside and concluded with the waterfalls. Tourists held onto a rope as they waded through the water to jump off a series of ledges. It looked safe enough, but Andrew immediately noticed the water was unruly. He discovered later it had recently rained, making the currents more powerful.

Adam couldn’t wait to jump. “He went by me with the biggest smile,” recalls Andrew.

When his son went under, Andrew frantically screamed at the tour guides to help. But they seemed to be arguing among themselves. Finally, another woman in the tour dove under and managed to grab Adam’s hand. That’s when the others pulled him out.

“It felt like hours,” said Andrew.

With Adam on a stretcher, the family made a frantic trip through the brush. Andrew recalls having to step over barbed wires, finding it odd a tour company wouldn’t remove them.

They then had to wait 15 minutes for an ambulance to arrive and bring Adam to a hospital. He was dead upon arrival. The family even had to sign a DOA form.

The tour guide lawyer approached Andrew with condolences. He was then brought to a “shady looking” police station to give a statement.

Days later, Andrew and Marilena got hold of the police report. In Spanish, it said Adam died “while swimming with father.”

Before he returned home, Andrew warned as many people as possible to stay away from the tours.

“We have to let people know that these tours are falsely advertised,” he says. “I ended up walking on the beach and talking to every couple I could find with children.

“I think Adam’s death saved a couple of people that week.”

Adam was an athletic, “competitive” Grade 6 student at Mary Ward school who was always inquisitive, says Marilena.

“He was a deep thinker. He would come up with the most amazing questions out of the blue. He had a deep, deep soul.”

“I just felt this kid’s too good to be true,” adds Andrew. “Of all three kids, I was worried about him the most.”

A visitation will be held today at Patterson Funeral Home from 1 to 4 p.m. and 6 to 9 p.m.

Funeral services will be held Wednesday, 10 a.m., at Our Lady of the Scapular Church.

Cheers,
Grumbo
 
Very sad story and worth keeping in mind. :sad1:

I've done both Disney-organized excursions and excursions that I've arranged on my own. Generally, I've found both to be very safe but I did extensive research when organizing on my own. Listen to what other people have to say about their experiences and use common sense.
 

Thanks for the chat plug. I am currently rebuilding my laptop, some how somtheing got through the firewall and it bacame pop up central. And it corrupted part of XP SP2, so I decided it was time to start at the beginning again. Backed up the impotant stuff and it is now reloading the original OS. It will take a bit, but I am confident that I can get there to chat. Can't do it from this desk top, DH has more contols than he knows what to do with and always moans about his PC not working well.

See you all tonight.
 
Grumbo ~ what a tragic event! Ironic timing, as I was just browsing RCCL & Princess's websites to look at Mexican excursions. It's a country I would be VERY cautious about water-based excursions, even through Disney.

We booked the Chankanaab snorkelling excursion in Cozumel through Disney last March. It's rated as "suitable for children 5 years and up" so we took Lara with us. She's as strong a swimmer as she can be for her age/size (she was 7 and in Aquaquest 10 but only weighs 50 lbs). It was a one hour GUIDED snorkel tour in 15-25 feet of water, and everyone was required to stay with the guide. They had some snorkel vests for adults, but none that would fit her. They finally gave us a ratty, torn, PFD and said she could wear that. I don't know many five year olds who can keep swimming for one hour! Lara did well for 45 minutes, but then was cold and wanted to get out. The guide screamed "NO" at her when she tried to go under the buoy line of the swimming area to return to the beach. I had to "piggy-back" a sobbing child back to where we entered the water.

I considered this excursion to be very unsafe and mis-advertised. I'm doing my research before booking snorkelling excusions in Mexico this year! (BTW - we bought a vest and wetsuit for her this time!) Luckily, we were still able to snorkel at Castaway Cay with her after that experience, so she's not soured on the sport.

Arlene
 
kmiles said:
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As usual, I either haven't paid attention or just don't remember...where is the chat and what is the proceedure to join in? We have a soffit repairman coming at 6:30 to give us a repair estimate(Thank you Hurricanes Frances and Jeanne), but hopefully I will be free by 7.
 
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Jazzman said:
From the Sisterhood handbook:

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-Jazz

You almost made me spit out my tea laughing!
 
ehtpnt said:
:cat:

Right after my last post the Sun finally came out. 5 days of gray cloudy yucky weather is just not right. Tonight the stars are out and of course that means a nice cold night. Oh well at least it isn't snowing.

Estelle :flower1:


:earsgirl::earsboy:

Sun? What is that?
 
Count me in on the walking group. I'll have my daughter's jogging stroller so I will probably jog and walk.
 
What a tragic story. :guilty:

Paul: Now you know why I said Pam could write the report. You are a man of few words! Glad you had a great time!

I need to go get my water now. :earboy2:
 
We bought each of us Snorkel PFD's. The type they provide on tours. They are clean, very light and small, and they fit us as we bought the size we need. Baby elephant for myself ;). We took them with us on the Eastern last time and for the small amount of space they take up we'll be bringing them with us on the Repo. I found them very expensive in Canada Arlene but I ordered them on the net from Florida and no problems at all.

Cheers,
Grumbo
 
Update on the wine tasting list:

Winotracy (2)
Kmiles (2)
Winnyis (2)
piglet33 (2)
Bmwdsny (2)
mississaugamom (2)
Mom2Belle&PeterPan (1)
ca-disney-dad (1)
DisneyElf (2)
Sandygirl (2)
WideAwake (1)
Mark&Sandra (3)
Carolsherman (?)
Luv2Dream (2)
eye R.N. (?)
ehtpnt (4)
NYGiantsRule! (2)
YrMajesty4 (?)
paulcrsb (2)
EileenAmI (2)
rsschneck (4)
Otisp (2)
Denise W (1)
Jazzman (1)
Grumbo (6)
Scratch42 (1)
DenverVal (2)
Denine (2)
gaba2de (2)


Any more for the wine tasting?
 
Denine said:
Paul: Now you know why I said Pam could write the report. You are a man of few words! Glad you had a great time!
Yep that's me! Not much of a writer but I'd be happy to answer any questions!

Paul
 
winotracy said:
Update on the wine tasting list:

Winotracy (2)
Kmiles (2)
Winnyis (2)
piglet33 (2)
Bmwdsny (2)
mississaugamom (2)
Mom2Belle&PeterPan (1)
ca-disney-dad (1)
DisneyElf (2)
Sandygirl (2)
WideAwake (1)
Mark&Sandra (3)
Carolsherman (?)
Luv2Dream (2)
eye R.N. (?)
ehtpnt (4)
NYGiantsRule! (2)
YrMajesty4 (?)
paulcrsb (2)
EileenAmI (2)
rsschneck (4)
Otisp (2)
Denise W (1)
Jazzman (1)
Grumbo (6)
Scratch42 (1)
DenverVal (2)
Denine (2)
gaba2de (2)


Any more for the wine tasting?

Tracy,
Please add my DW (Linda) and I to your wine tasting. We'll be bringing something from one of our local Hudson Valley wineries.

Paul
 
winotracy said:
Update on the wine tasting list:

Winotracy (2)
Kmiles (2)
Winnyis (2)
piglet33 (2)
Bmwdsny (2)
mississaugamom (2)
Mom2Belle&PeterPan (1)
ca-disney-dad (1)
DisneyElf (2)
Sandygirl (2)
WideAwake (1)
Mark&Sandra (3)
Carolsherman (?)
Luv2Dream (2)
eye R.N. (?)
ehtpnt (4)
NYGiantsRule! (2)
YrMajesty4 (?)
paulcrsb (2)
EileenAmI (2)
rsschneck (4)
Otisp (2)
Denise W (1)
Jazzman (1)
Grumbo (6)
Scratch42 (1)
DenverVal (2)
Denine (2)
gaba2de (2)


Any more for the wine tasting?
So, what's the deal? everyone brings a bottle to share?

If so, sign me up along with DH, Aunty Brat, our friend Jeannine, our friends Karen & Danny, and what the heck, throw in my bro in law and sis in law. :)
 
We are planning a wine tasting on the Ship of Fools! We have approx 65 so far! Each couple will be responsible to bring one bottle of wine to taste. If information on the wine is forwarded to me no later than August 10, I will put together information on the wines we will be tasting including room for tasting notes! I'm working on the location, date and food for the event. Quite a few who have shown interest are planning to bring regional wines, but almost anything goes!

Update on the wine tasting list:

Winotracy (2)
Kmiles (2)
Winnyis (2)
piglet33 (2)
Bmwdsny (2)
mississaugamom (2)
Mom2Belle&PeterPan (1)
ca-disney-dad (1)
DisneyElf (2)
Sandygirl (2)
WideAwake (1)
Mark&Sandra (3)
Carolsherman (?)
Luv2Dream (2)
eye R.N. (?)
ehtpnt (4)
NYGiantsRule! (2)
YrMajesty4 (?)
paulcrsb (2)
EileenAmI (2)
rsschneck (4)
Otisp (2)
Denise W (1)
Jazzman (1)
Grumbo (6)
Scratch42 (1)
DenverVal (2)
Denine (2)
gaba2de (2)
NYdiscruisers (2)
AuntyBrat (1)
Ivanova (7)

Any more for the wine tasting?
 
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