At MK now.....half of Main Street stores are closed

[cigar95]

Two generators, 10 gallons of gasoline, three 20 lb propane tanks, eight 1 lb propane tanks, extension cords and Christmas lights. Just like with the incident being discussed in this thread, the real answer is rarely as exciting as the drama surrounding it

What sort of Christmas lights? Do you think you're Mr Osborne Lights or something? What makes you so special? . . . .
And don't you know how dangerous it is to power Christmas lights with propane? Where do you live so that we can report you?
Extension cords? That can cause fire danger. What is their rating? How many do you string together?
Here you say it's none of our business and eventually we find out you're an egomaniac who's going to burn down our neighborhood . . . . . . .



for those who didn't get it . . . . . . . . .

 

[Dismama2boys]

All of this "you have to trust Disney not to put you in danger" talk is making me think of all of the outcry last week about how dare Disney put beaches with movie nights next to alligator infested water.....

 

[dreiwhit]

Again, do you trust Disney to keep you safe or don't you?

No, not really.

Ready Creek Fire Resque and Paramedic units are open and not encrypted. I have those frequencies programmed into my scanner for when we stay at the fort and I'm off the clock but still want info. All in park radio systems used by cast are encrypted and private. No way to tune in. There is a lengthy thread on here somewhere about the radio systems here at WDW.

They were encrypted for the longest time (radioreference.com still shows them as encrypted.) Do you know when they dropped encryption?

 

[kandb]

Power outage
Medical Emergency
Shop LIfter

Just some of my ideas

I doubt they would close a row of stores for a shop lifter. Knowing Disney they would probably follow the person out and take him to the side somewhere where it wouldn't make a scene. Disney never wants anyone to see anything bad on their properties.

 

[zaccaglin]

No, not really.



They were encrypted for the longest time (radioreference.com still shows them as encrypted.) Do you know when they dropped encryption?

My scanner was still working late last year I'll have to check again when I come to the fort next month.

 

[Mrs~Incredible]

Lol

What sort of Christmas lights? Do you think you're Mr Osborne Lights or something? What makes you so special? . . . .
And don't you know how dangerous it is to power Christmas lights with propane? Where do you live so that we can report you?
Extension cords? That can cause fire danger. What is their rating? How many do you string together?
Here you say it's none of our business and eventually we find out you're an egomaniac who's going to burn down our neighborhood . . . . . . .



for those who didn't get it . . . . . . . . .

 

[kandb]

So I have read almost every 10 pages and still no one knows why a few stores on Main St were closed? And why was it such a big deal to begin with?

 

[StuckInKS]

All of this "you have to trust Disney not to put you in danger" talk is making me think of all of the outcry last week about how dare Disney put beaches with movie nights next to alligator infested water.....

Yes, but from what I can tell, those who want you to "mind your own business and trust Disney or don't go" are the same ones who think "it's FL you should have known there were alligators in there without Disney telling you"

 

[Dismama2boys]

Yes, but from what I can tell, those who want you to "mind your own business and trust Disney or don't go" are the same ones who think "it's FL you should have known there were alligators in there without Disney telling you"

Could be. I rarely pay attention to who posts what, unless they call me a liar (not this post, obvs).

 

[serenitynow]

So I have read almost every 10 pages and still no one knows why a few stores on Main St were closed? And why was it such a big deal to begin with?

That seems about right for information gathering here on the Dis. It can be like a snarky form of that old game we played as kids, telephone, where one person whispers something to another person and the last person has to say the secret out loud. Only by the time it gets to the end person, the original statement is no longer to be recognized.

 

[capegirl]

So I have read almost every 10 pages and still no one knows why a few stores on Main St were closed? And why was it such a big deal to begin with?

The 'art of speculation'. Disney does encourage imagination.

 

[IrishNYC]

But guests don't NEED that information. If they are not in immediate danger, then there's no reason to tell them anything. It could be a safety drill, a celebrity, a medical emergency, a snake in the store that they are having a hard time catching, a shoplifting situation that they are reviewing before reopening, an electrical issue, or any number of things that we haven't even thought of.

And come on, even if the CMs gave a vague explanation of what was transpiring, half the people who heard it wouldn't believe it and would still claim Disney is "lying" to them about what's "really" going on. So why bother?

But what if it was a plaid escorting a celebrity that got sick while shoplifting because they got bit by a snake that got electrocuted causing all the power on that side of Main Street to go down during a safety drill? Then is it our business?

So what happened?

Get in the shed!

 

[GPC0321]

But what if it was a plaid escorting a celebrity that got sick while shoplifting because they got bit by a snake that got electrocuted causing all the power on that side of Main Street to go down during a safety drill? Then is it our business?



Get in the shed!

Especially not then, LOL! As my mother and I say, "It's none-ya!" LOL!

And LOL at the shed. That's been the funniest part of this thread!

 

[hippiechicken]

So a little , but still along the lines of trusting places you're at with your safety. A few years ago, we stayed at a Westin Hotel. After the first night, we're riding the elevator with a lady from the floor above us. She starts talking about the evacuation the night before & we had no clue what she was talking about. Apparently, the smoke alarms had went off & they evaluated the top three floors but didn't notify anyone below. Needless to say this freaked us out. That's a situation where I'd like to be given the option to leave on my own rather wait then be told to evacuate after they find a raging fire. All ended well, we were alive & without a clue to it all til talking to that lady. But really! We won't be staying there again & what's sad is now our DD is always worried staying in hotels because of it.

I'm still laughing that tsme posted an sign as if this thread has stayed on topic...

 

[cigar95]

Get in the shed!

I think you may have just coined a new DIS catch-phrase!

Now we just have to come up with ground rules on when to use it.

 

[conandrob240]

Security measures and results shouldn't be discussed with any of us.

 

[maccagerl]

When I take first aid for work, we are taught to alternate 5 back blows with 5 abdominal thrusts. Always try back blows first.

No kidding?? I thought back blows were out dated.
Learn something new every day!!

MG

Alternating back blows with abd thrusts is only done on babies.

For adults, you perform the heimlich maneuver ( standing behind the person with your arms around them in order to perform abd thrusts). You do this until the person becomes unresponsive, at which point you start CPR.

 

[DopeyDame]

So a little , but still along the lines of trusting places you're at with your safety. A few years ago, we stayed at a Westin Hotel. After the first night, we're riding the elevator with a lady from the floor above us. She starts talking about the evacuation the night before & we had no clue what she was talking about. Apparently, the smoke alarms had went off & they evaluated the top three floors but didn't notify anyone below. Needless to say this freaked us out. That's a situation where I'd like to be given the option to leave on my own rather wait then be told to evacuate after they find a raging fire. All ended well, we were alive & without a clue to it all til talking to that lady. But really! We won't be staying there again & what's sad is now our DD is always worried staying in hotels because of it.

That's actually standard procedure in any large building. When a fire alarm goes off, it automatically triggers the alarm on the floor above and below but *not* anywhere else in the building. If it's still going off after X minutes, then the alarms on the other floors go off - sometimes the whole building or sometimes in phases, depending on the size of the building.

That's the best way to ensure that everyone is evacuated safely and quickly. In a large building, if you evacuate everyone at once, the crowd and chaos will lead to disorder and a far slower evacuation. So you prioritize the people closest to the risk and get them out of harms way first and then evacuate everyone else so the hallways and stairwells don't get so crowded as to be dangerous.

In your case, someone was probably able to identify it as a false alarm very quickly and clear the alarm before it sounded on other floors.

Every large hotel in America (at least that's built to code) will evacuate like that, so there's no reason not to go back to the Westin

 

[IrishNYC]

That's actually standard procedure in any large building. When a fire alarm goes off, it automatically triggers the alarm on the floor above and below but *not* anywhere else in the building. If it's still going off after X minutes, then the alarms on the other floors go off - sometimes the whole building or sometimes in phases, depending on the size of the building.

That's the best way to ensure that everyone is evacuated safely and quickly. In a large building, if you evacuate everyone at once, the crowd and chaos will lead to disorder and a far slower evacuation. So you prioritize the people closest to the risk and get them out of harms way first and then evacuate everyone else so the hallways and stairwells don't get so crowded as to be dangerous.

In your case, someone was probably able to identify it as a false alarm very quickly and clear the alarm before it sounded on other floors.

Every large hotel in America (at least that's built to code) will evacuate like that, so there's no reason not to go back to the Westin

This along with @tsme 's post about the Westin is a perfect example of why the public doesn't always need to know what's going on with something involving security. Had the random elevator woman not mentioned the alarm tsme never would have known there was a "problem," and would have no reason to fear or mistrust future stays with Westin.

 

[conandrob240]

People should think before they get all upset at being kept in the dark about security measures. Publicly revealing how a building gets evacuated in an emergency is probably not info we want every single person to know. We don't need to know everything. We need to trust the experts or we'd have sheer chaos.