Assault at Fort wilderness

[2goofycampers]

sorry,,this is Frank

 

[Born 2 Fish]

I reck'n folk round here tend not to read any of the the treads here,,this is like the 5th thread that was started on this issue,

baseball bats,,thats the answer.
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[chiefcop]

I reck'n folk round here tend not to read any of the thtreads here,,this is like the 5th threadf that was started on this issue,

baseball bats,,thats the answer.
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I agree with Frank on the baseball but, a good rusty emasculator can work wonders...

 

[ob1quixote]

I hear there are gators in the swamps around there. Being the father of 2 daughters, I would like to introduce the perp to them.

 

[chiefcop]

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[3gr8kids]

I thought maybe Chris Hansen lured him back.

I have a very clear idea for what to do with people who prey on children and it doesnt have anything to do with a warm bed, tv and 3 hot meals a day, more like an express train to hell (or something like that)
If you prey on kids I believe you are miswired to a degree that requires your DNA lineage to come to a very abrupt end.

There should be a way to legalize castration for these animals.

As bad as this crime is, this at least points to it not being a "random" encounter at the Fort. Don't misunderstand me in that I'm not blaming the girl one bit. But, as the father of 4 girls, if this had been completely random I would worry that much more about them, even in the relatively safe confines of the Fort. I know it can happen anywhere, but in this case this was not random. I take a TINY bit of comfort in that.

I agree Dave, I don't blame the girl at all, she is definitely a victim, but I do take some small comfort in knowing that it wasn't random.

The problem is that until they ARE caught, no one knows they're a predator except their victims - who may or may not talk about it. So until they hit some kind of database where you could maybe implement facial recognition software to keep them at bay, they can be wherever you are - store, school, theme park, vacation resort, anywhere. And until we know who they are, we don't know who to keep the kids away from either. I do believe their should be harsher punishments, especially for first time offenders. Get them off the street right away and keep them in jail where they belong.

I would like to know why my tax dollars are expected to clothe, house, and feed these animals?? There are FAMILIES living on the street just trying to find their next meal, yet these degenerates get the basic life necessities payed for by law-abiding, tax paying citizens?? WHAT????
Case in point-we recently had a 63 year old degenerate released from prison (served his time) and what was the first thing he did? Tried to rob a convenience store and in the process beat up a 78 year old woman. When the police arrested him, he said he wanted to go back to prison because there was no way he would be able to get a job and support himself, so prison was his best bet to have a roof over his head, three meals a day, cable tv and a gym "membership". What's wrong with that picture???? It seems to me that we need more people like Sheriff Joe Arpaio who have the common sense to treat inmates like inmates.

 

[PolynesianPixie]

Karla, I second that! The homeless should have it so good!

 

[magicforever]

Bracelets, what a great idea! All resort guests must wear one. If boarding bus must have one. Security at overflow! Of course this could do away with our cheaper golf cart rental! This way when entering the resort, they can check for dinner reservations. Maybe specific lanyards for resorts instead of bracelets.

 

[des1954]

Bracelets, what a great idea! All resort guests must wear one. If boarding bus must have one. Security at overflow! Of course this could do away with our cheaper golf cart rental! This way when entering the resort, they can check for dinner reservations. Maybe specific lanyards for resorts instead of bracelets.

A good idea, but it won't happen unless Disney screws annual passholders out of yet another benefit, and that is free use of all Disney transportation.

Years ago you had to show transportation drivers your resort I.D. or annual pass in order to board any transportation. I don't know why they got away from that. Maybe too many guests complained that they left their I.D. in their room or it took too long to board a bus. Who knows.

The basic "wrong" in this case was the girl herself. She arranged to meet this guy via the internet. He wasn't some opportunist looking for a young unsuspecting girl to prey on. The girl's guardians were foster parents. That in itself tells me the girl has had a troublesome and unstable life. Kids like that look for affirmation from anyone because they've had no basic, stable home life and the love and safety that comes with it. If any of you have had dealings with troubled teens you know they become "street saavy" at a very early age. My guess is that she went along with the whole thing until she thought she might be pregnant. Heck....she may have done this sort of thing before. Let's face it...she had the cunning to arrange the meeting, find an excuse to leave the campsite & the watchful eye of her foster parents, and have the time to "do the deed". She also had the where-with-all to mask her emotions for a month and not raise any kind of suspision with the foster parents. How many of you parents repeatedly warn your children about the dangers of exposing yourself to strangers on the internet, let alone, arranging to meet someone without going with the safety of friends?

Now believe me, I'm not condoning the action of the 29 year old man at all. Once he realized he was dealing with a minor he should have run the other way. I'm sure he & the girl arranged where to meet, what she would be wearing, etc. He could have turned around and left without her ever knowing he came in the first place. He's still a slime-bag perpetrator, but let's face it....he had a lot of help from the girl.

None of this is the fault of Disney or their security. People have to take responsibility for their own actions, and yes, so does this 12 year old girl. She's old enough to know what she did was wrong and very dangerous. It could have turned out with her life being taken.

You hear it on TV all the time....know what your kids are up to when they are on the internet. Question where they are going & with whom. Lovingly drill them when they come home from a "social engagement". Trust them...but not entirely. Judge Judy says it best..."If a teenager's lips are moving, they are lying!" Good words for parents to remember!

And Frank....a 2 x 4 that has rusty nails in it & has been soaking in motor oil for years would be a good alternative to a baseball bat. The long soak in oil would guarantee the board wouldn't break when beating the perp with it & the nails would be an added pleasure!!!

 

[RocklandRVers]

Brings to mind Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs episode on castrating sheep. If that was the punishment maybe some of these pervs would think twice!

 

[Princess Disney Mom]

My 12 year old girls have never been allowed to wander any resort/hotel so am wondering how the foster parents let her go to the laundry room? Also behind bushes several times.

One must be careful everywhere.

 

[des1954]

My 12 year old girls have never been allowed to wander any resort/hotel so am wondering how the foster parents let her go to the laundry room? Also behind bushes several times.

One must be careful everywhere.

Unfortunately, not everyone in the foster parent program should be foster parents. Some do it simply for the $$$ it brings in.

 

[PolynesianPixie]

Unfortunately, not everyone in the foster parent program should be foster parents. Some do it simply for the $$$ it brings in.

I have the utmost respect for anyone who is willing to foster teenagers. You have to have control but not be controlling, diligent but not hover, aware but not snooping. I don't think I could do it. Debbie is completely right...by the time a child is 12 they are well aware of way too much. Those who have grown up in less than ideal circumstances have learned to survive by extrordinary means. Often they are masters at manipulation and would give proffesional spies a run for their money when it comes to sneakiness. It's a shame, really. That innocence that we all appreciate in our own children is often so fleeting in those who have grown up in multiple households and witnessed only God knows what in their own homes. Kids like this need shelter and a firm but loving upbringing. Foster parents should be taught not to allow solitary internet time and to watch for signs that the child may be hiding something. I hate to place blame on someone doing a "public service" like raising a child who needs a home; but I have to wonder where on earth the parents thought the girl was all this time??? Were they really that unaware? As a mother of a 13 year old I just can't imagine!

I am certainly not trying to justify or belittle anything that happened here. I do think that it was a situation where the wrong guy met the wrong girl. Either one of them could have stopped this and neither did. For her, it may be a cry for help and attention. I can only imagine how much this girl needs love. For the guy...well, he is just scum. I can't imagine a grown man, thinking he's going to get "something" from a woman...finding a young girl and not being immediately like "danger! danger!" and leaving at once. It's sickening and I'm completely agreeing with all these remedies for this type of illness! I say we go with nails and castration!