ksdave
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The only reason why we aren't seeing many infections in Africa and India is that there's not a lot of testing. I truly do fear for the inhabitants of those two continents. I truly do.Okay, seriously. Below is the current world population from the worldometer World Population Clock. If even 10% of the people became infected, how many do you really think we have the resources on hand to treat right now? And who will treat them?
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Well that’s a good thing. Perhaps local spread in Florida remains fairly contained at this time.
The only worry is that guy in Sarasota at Doctor's Hospital. He was there for a while before they realized what he had. I'm sure they're testing everyone who was in contact with him but there's always the danger that they missed someone, or that staff got infected. One of those two things is probably what set off the epidemic in Seattle.Well that’s a good thing. Perhaps local spread in Florida remains fairly contained at this time.
The only worry is that guy in Sarasota at Doctor's Hospital. He was there for a while before they realized what he had. I'm sure they're testing everyone who was in contact with him but there's always the danger that they missed someone, or that staff got infected. One of those two things is probably what set off the epidemic in Seattle.
Yes there is still community spread. But 14 more people with illness requiring hospitalization and unknown source of contact would be a lot more concerning.The only worry is that guy in Sarasota at Doctor's Hospital. He was there for a while before they realized what he had. I'm sure they're testing everyone who was in contact with him but there's always the danger that they missed someone, or that staff got infected. One of those two things is probably what set off the epidemic in Seattle.
I'm not defending his actions, but I do believe he didn't get the test results until Monday, 3 days after the party. He was told to stay home while waiting for the results and didn't, still stupid.That's right up there with the idiot (I have some choice stronger words, but I'll get in trouble) in New Hampshire. He tested positive, was told to quarentine at home, and instead, decided to go party it up in Vermont that weekend. He's infected at least one other, and the other people at the party are being observed now.
Right, and I saw that UNC put Florida on the travel ban list for employee travel, along with WA, CA and all the foreign countries with outbreaks. But left off NY? I mean, they have FAR more cases, most with community spread. It makes no sense. Why pick on Florida?Yes there is still community spread. But 14 more people with illness requiring hospitalization and unknown source of contact would be a lot more concerning.
I’m sure that this has community spread in most major cities in the US.
I think it can also help to see the stats for Lombardy as they have most of the cases.The stats for Italy are looking worse by the day. I think that the healthcare system in some parts of the country is overwhelmed, the number of people at home vs. in the hospital has really dropped which I think means they can't keep up with testing/home quarantine anymore, so they're missing the mild cases. This is also probably affecting the CFR.
But what concerns me is that of the people already in the hospital, the percent who need ICU care is very high. About 20%. I do know that Italy's average age is almost 10 years older than the US, but it's still heartbreaking. God bless them all.
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I think it can also help to see the stats for Lombardy as they have most of the cases.
Today total cases in Italy are 3296 in Lombardy 2251 of these 1169 are in hospital 244 in icu, 364 are at home in quarantine, 376 have recovered and 98 have died.
There are currently two newborns positive with the virus but their condition isn't bad. They are hiring alot of new doctors and they are transforming the theatre recovery rooms icu. They said that alot of these patients have a really compromised breathing situation.
That's good. Eventually a lot of hospitals will turn their ORs and recovery rooms into ICUs and hi-acuity care units. A lot of elective surgery is going to get put off, both there and here, IMHO.I think it can also help to see the stats for Lombardy as they have most of the cases.
Today total cases in Italy are 3296 in Lombardy 2251 of these 1169 are in hospital 244 in icu, 364 are at home in quarantine, 376 have recovered and 98 have died.
There are currently two newborns positive with the virus but their condition isn't bad. They are hiring alot of new doctors and they are transforming the theatre recovery rooms icu. They said that alot of these patients have a really compromised breathing situation.
And this is in an area that has enforced a "Chinese-light" full quarantine...
Not Chinese style, yet.
It kind of frightens me that there is a game called Pandemic. Can you win?Well, no one is let in or out...so it's like the game Pandemic - they shut Lombardy down from the rest of the country...and then closed all the schools and the public activities...so "light"...https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-deaths-rise-italy-considers-quarantine-zones-200303211143776.html
They said that they are also talking with some NGO's so to get more doctors and nurses in. I'm truly quite amazed at how much staff this situation is requiring.That's good. Eventually a lot of hospitals will turn their ORs and recovery rooms into ICUs and hi-acuity care units. A lot of elective surgery is going to get put off, both there and here, IMHO.
From what I can understand they've set up over 350 field tents for quarantine of mild cases?
And it looks like they've noticed that heart disease and hypertension really predisposes people to more severe disease. Which is something that's unusual for a respiratory virus. but might be related to the ACE2 receptors that they bind to.
Italy really is giving the rest of the world some very valuable information so everyone else can prepare.
It kind of frightens me that there is a game called Pandemic. Can you win?
Not all. Lombardy just 9 small towns.Well, no one is let in or out...so it's like the game Pandemic - they shut Lombardy down from the rest of the country...and then closed all the schools and the public activities...so "light"...https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-deaths-rise-italy-considers-quarantine-zones-200303211143776.html