Aren't you supposed to turn off your car engine when pumping gas?

*Fantasia* said:
Yes, you're suppose to turn the engine off before pumping gas. You're also not suppose to be on the cell phone and should be turned off. You should also try to touch a metal first before pumping just in case there's electric shock between you and the pump handle that can cause sparks which may lead to fire (This is usually during winter) . I learned this..someone told me and some gas station has notice posted that you need to turn off the cell phone and turn off the engine first.

All of these warnings are posted at most of the gas stations I hit here in CT...turn car off, no cell phone use, and 'ground' yourself.

Myth or no myth...it's annoying to stand there pumping your gas while someone yaks on a cell. Plus - no offense...when you are on your cell, you are not payign attention to the other job you are doing. pump your gas and get out of line...it bothers me when people finish pumping and still stand outside talking on their cell while the line behind them gets bigger
 
If I hadn't have to pay the Delaware Mem Bridge toll, I'd get gas in NJ all the time. Full service and cheaper. The best of both worlds!
 
krissy3483 said:
In NJ, attendants have to pump your gas, you're not allowed to do it. There is another state with this law as well.

Oregon

It's for some dumb reason like your taking jobs away from all the gas station attendents. Like people aspire to be gas station attendents. All the former gas station attendents in the other 48 states survived but I digress.....

They also cite soem enviromental concerns whichi is also silly because I've seen the attnedents overflow more gas tanks and spill more gas than regular people pumping their own.

It's actually REALLY funny to get out of your car like you may pump your own gas, they FREAK.
 

Have not seen anybody mention about NO SMOKING WHILE PUMPING GAS.

I mention this because I encountered an idiot who was smoking while pumping gas. I said that I think it is a law to not smoke while pumping gas and he tells me "it's people like you that have messed up this country".

I retort that I am going to call police and proceed to get out my cell phone and he backs away from the pump and puts out the butt.

As a side note, I was a gas pumper many, many years ago and did so in 100 degree weather and in 0 degree weather. I also asked if the driver wanted the oil checked and I washed the windshield if the water wasn't frozen. I also had fun sometimes and washed the windshield while it was raining, dumb young kid fooling around. I was very pleased to receive a tip for my services and many people did indeed tip. If while in N.J. you have a very energetic pumper and he or she goes above and beyond, think about a small tip.

Way back then I also had a choice of salary or a few cents on every gallon I pumped when I would work on a holiday that no one else would work, i.e. Christmas. Took the pennies and made out pretty good since most stations were closed down.

This blast from the past was in N.J. on Rt. 17 just north of Rt. 4.

John
 
The risk of the cell phone setting off a spark is minimal but it is still enough that they do post the warning. Same with the static setting off a fire -- chances are slim but it doesn't hurt to take the precaution of touching metal.

If the stations continue to post the No Cell Phone notice it's a good idea to heed it. Unless it's a life and death situation you can stop yakking for two minutes. ;)
 
My Dad drilled it into my head that I was to never leave the car running while pumping gas. To this day I don't do that and never will. I took to heart things that my Dad taught me about cars and safety.:)
 
The worst thing you can do is start the engine while pumping gas. That's just an invitation for a wayward spark. I am always astouded by the people who light up while pumping - ummm.... hello... you have a handful of gasoline and you are lighting a match.... And the Darwin award goes to....

Erin :D
 
RadioNate said:
Oregon

It's for some dumb reason like your taking jobs away from all the gas station attendents. Like people aspire to be gas station attendents. All the former gas station attendents in the other 48 states survived but I digress.....

They also cite soem enviromental concerns whichi is also silly because I've seen the attnedents overflow more gas tanks and spill more gas than regular people pumping their own.

It's actually REALLY funny to get out of your car like you may pump your own gas, they FREAK.


thats EXACTLY why I wont stop in NJ for gas....you know the sign "dont top off"...because of the flow vents in the new pumps...they just HAVE to squeeze that last 5 cents into your tank...spills all over the side of my rig...UGGHHH

Around here we still have full serve stations- but they're same price as self serve

That's also why i wont let anyone pump gas in my Duramax...diesel foams...and it'll shut off before full...well these idiots will hold that pump full open after it shuts off- and sure enough- nice big diesel trail down the side of my pick up...take a look the next time you hear a diesel pick up driving by...it's about 75% chance the guy's gonna have a nasty mark on the side of his truck by his gas tank LOL.... it irritates me to no end!

Brandy
 
Can I just say - since Brandy quoted me I reread what I wrote and I REALLY can't type this morning.

Sorry about that.
 
I found these Q & A's at the Petroleum Equiptment Institute website.

Q: Cell Phones
Are cell phones unsafe?

A: PEI has not been able to document any cases of cellular phones causing a fire at a gas station. However, we do not recommend using any device that might cause distractions while refueling.

Our refueling fire report has nothing to do with cell phones whatsoever, but we have posted links to information regarding this urban legend under Related Info.

PEI has not documented a single refueling fire caused by a cell phone or pager.


Q: Engine Running
Why is it dangerous to leave your car running?

A: Many people believe this safety warning only applies to older cars. That is not true. A running car presents a number of "ignition sources" for fuel vapor. The exhaust components of a modern car can literally glow red hot during normal operation. The typical ignition system creates voltages above 40,000 volts.

But turning off your engine while refueling isn't just to prevent your car from starting a fire. There is also a safety issue in the event of fire, regardless of the source. In case a fire does occur in a gas station a running car is a danger. Imagine that fire burns through one of the rubber fuel hoses under your running car. Most fuel pumps deliver gasoline at about 15 to 40 pounds per square inch (PSI). Your fuel pump is now spraying a tremendous amount of gasoline at an open flame.



Q: Footwear
Are rubber-soled shoes safer?

A: No. Rubber soles insulate the wearer which makes it more difficult to discharge static buildup to the ground.



Q: Fuels and Static
Does this only apply to gasoline?

A: Not necessarily. The only incidents we have documented involve gasoline. Compressed natural gas refueling does not normally involve any concentrated vapors so that would also be an unlikely event. The higher flash point of diesel makes such an occurrence unlikely but not impossible, especially in hot weather.


Q: Gas Cans
Are plastic gas cans safe?

A: Yes, but they should always be placed on the ground when filling. Never fill any portable container (regardless of material) while it is inside your car or pickup bed.

Q: In Case of Fire
What should I do if there is a fire?

A: If a fire does occur, don't panic. Do not remove the nozzle from the gas tank. Back away from the car and immediately tell the station attendant so they can operate the emergency shut-off and a fire extinguisher.

Q: Just Cars?
Can this happen to motorcycles, ATVs, snowmobiles, etc.?

A: Probably not. We have not documented any incidents involving motorcycles and static-related ignition. However, it is wise to keep the nozzle in contact with the fuel filler neck during the refueling process. Especially on recreational vehicles equipped with plastic fuel tanks.

Q: Nozzle Latches
Why not remove the hold-open latches?

A: Some states and countries do not allow the automatic nozzle latch that clicks off when your tank is full. This is intended to eliminate unattended refueling.

Unfortunately, accidents occur when consumers attempt to fabricate their own makeshift latches. Placing an object, such as a gas cap, under the nozzle lever can make the cure more dangerous than the symptom. The most severe case was the victim who jammed the nozzle open with his disposable lighter.

Q: Passengers
Is it safe for passengers to stay in the car?


A: That's probably the safest place for passengers to be. The person refuleing should not get back in the car because they might build up a dangerous static electrical charge.

In the event passengers do get out of the car to operate the pump we recommend they touch a metal portion of your car or the dispenser before touching the nozzle.

Q: Pump Grounding
Why not just ground the pump/hose/nozzle?

A: They already are. Or, at least, they should be. Standards call for continuity between the dispenser and refueling nozzle.

The issue here is the electrical difference of potential between the person and their vehicle. They have created a static charge between their body and their car, which may not be discharged by touching another grounded object.


Q: Reentering Vehicle
Why can't I get back in my car?

A: Don't get back in while you're gassing up. This can create a static buildup that will cause a spark when you touch the gas pump. Most of the incidents we have investigated involved the driver starting the pump, getting back into their car, and when the driver gets back out of the car to remove the nozzle, static is generated when they slide across the seat and a spark may occur when they reach for the nozzle.

This does not apply to full-service or passengers in your vehicle so long as they are not near the refueling nozzle.

Q: Rubber Boots
Are dispensers equipped with vapor recovery systems also affected?

A: Some metropolitan areas mandate the use of evaporative vapor recovery equipment. This is most commonly identified by a large rubber boot attached to the gas pump nozzle.
Our findings indicate that vapor recovery systems with such a device greatly reduce the risk of static-related ignition.


Q: Static Buildup
Why does my car shock me?

A: Most static buildup is due to movement between yourself and the car seat. Your car also builds up static electricity as it moves through the air. There is also evidence the materials used in “high mileage” tires contribute to the problem.

Q: Static Materials
Am I safe because I am wearing gloves or have leather upholstery?

A: No. Certain materials can reduce the the buildup and/or disperse the discharge of static electricity. But they do not eliminate it entirely.

Q: Static Discharge Wires
Why not install static wires on gas pumps like airplanes use?

A: Aircraft use static grounding wires before fueling because of the immense amount of static generated during flight. Most of the automotive refueling accidents we have investigated occurred after the refueling process.

Dispenser nozzles and hose are made so they ground through the dispenser. In other words, they have the grounding wire built in. In most cases a properly operating nozzle inserted into a metal fuel filler neck serves the same purpose of electrically connecting the vehicle to ground through the dispenser. Just as the grounding wire on aircraft does.

Q: Warning Labels
Why aren't there any warning labels on the pump?

A: Regulations and labeling requirements are usually the jurisdiction of local fire authorities. To learn more about these regulations you should contact your local fire marshall.
 
We left the car running in Alaska but if you turned it off long enough to pump gas it might not start again b/c of the cold. :/ Hard habit to break when we moved to AZ... esp being so hot. You *so* want that a/c cranked.

Down here there are signs. Alaska there never were. They had the cell phone sign up for a while but it is a total Myth. Mythbusters busted it LOL
 
These old threads that suddenly get bumped up always get me!
I was wondering, "Geez, why are all these people talking about how cold it is?" till I noticed the date!
 
I always shut my car off, but DH doesn't
 
My DH doesn't either, drives me crazy. But in the very coldest part of winter I always go and sit in the driver seat, although I leave the door open a little.
Robin M.
 












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