Are you averse to the 'new' 5-day pass only? Please read and comment...

[jory29]

I called them myself, to see, at the number listed above. Upon phoning, I noticed they have an announcement stating "All information is subject to change without notice." When I pressed the right number to get through to ticketing, I got a recorded announcement so I pressed 0 and was put through to a very courteous Cast Member.

I stated to him that we usually visit for a week at a time, we live in Canada, and I had always been able to buy a 7 day pass. I said that I noticed on the website only 5 day Park Hopper passes seem to be available, and was there any way we would be able to extend the Park Hopper passes to a 6 or 7 day Park Hopper pass. He replied, "As far as I know, there is the possibility to extend it, I'm not 100% sure - do you mind if I place you on hold?" He placed me on hold for a short while, came back and apologized for placing me on hold for the long wait (which it wasn't at all, lol) and then said he was still checking on it.

Upon coming back to the call very shortly after, he told me that "You actually can not pay a little bit extra. You would have to buy a 5 day and then add a day or 2 on to that." I stated that "But then the cost per day goes up, and that doesn't make sense, if we want to spend more days in the park, in which case we will spend our money elsewhere on those days." I asked if this is their policy now, (no 6-day or 7-day Park Hoppers) - He said, yeah, it was. He sounded like he felt badly for me. Now get this - he then continued on with, "We weren't really selling that many 6-day Park Hoppers." I repeated his statement in question format, and he answered back with an affirmative "Yeah."

Not selling that many? Really? I for one am not buying that one.

 

[smiley_face2]

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...disney-california-adventure-park-childs-play/

Disney Blog about needing several days to see and do everything at the park. lol...I left a comment, it is awaiting moderation, we shall see what they say if anything.

"We have never spent less than 10 days visiting the Disneyland Resort. We have often stayed 2 weeks or more because there is just so much to see and do, even just all the rides take days to get on, and to see all the shows and parades, eat at all the awesome food locations, spend time at the amazing new pools at the Disneyland Hotel, yes a full week is the minimum you need at the Resort. We just came back from a full 2 weeks there, and we still missed some things! Sadly, there is no longer a park hopper ticket available for more than 5 days. They used to be available up to 8 days. I am happy we are able to afford annual passes, but for so many families they are now limited to just 5 days to see and do everything in both parks. I would love to know the reason this was done. It seems funny to do a blog about staying several days to see and do everything, yet not offering the ticket to do it."

 

[jory29]

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...disney-california-adventure-park-childs-play/

Disney Blog about needing several days to see and do everything at the park. lol...I left a comment, it is awaiting moderation, we shall see what they say if anything.

"We have never spent less than 10 days visiting the Disneyland Resort. We have often stayed 2 weeks or more because there is just so much to see and do, even just all the rides take days to get on, and to see all the shows and parades, eat at all the awesome food locations, spend time at the amazing new pools at the Disneyland Hotel, yes a full week is the minimum you need at the Resort. We just came back from a full 2 weeks there, and we still missed some things! Sadly, there is no longer a park hopper ticket available for more than 5 days. They used to be available up to 8 days. I am happy we are able to afford annual passes, but for so many families they are now limited to just 5 days to see and do everything in both parks. I would love to know the reason this was done. It seems funny to do a blog about staying several days to see and do everything, yet not offering the ticket to do it."

Excellent point in regards to that blog, lol. Thanks! I guess needing 'a few days to see everything' equates 5 days to them at most. This is not saying much for their 'belief system', as they now make it seem that there is so little to do in the parks, that you need only 5 days at most. EVEN AFTER such huge expansions. (It makes it seem as though they do not even remotely love the Parks as much as all of us here on the boards do.

Thanks for writing in, this is great, because they really should start noticing things now, and hopefully remedy this situation promptly.

So many here on the boards are going very soon, and very soon want to see a change. Even when planning for 2013, or 2014, everyone on the boards here will want to know that this option will be available.

 

[longtimedisneylurker]

Not selling that many? Really? I for one am not buying that one.

Well, it's all relative. That comment kind of fits in with what I posted about what Disney's number crunching may have shown them. Disneyland attendance was estimated at 16.1 million last year. While we will never know exactly how many of those people had 6, 7, and 8 day tickets, I'm guessing that it was a small enough demographic that Disney is not concerned about upsetting them. It does seem like a strange time to make this switch though, right when they've plussed up DCA giving the resort more of a potential to be a week-long vacation destination than ever before.

 

[jory29]

Well, it's all relative. That comment kind of fits in with what I posted about what Disney's number crunching may have shown them. Disneyland attendance was estimated at 16.1 million last year. While we will never know exactly how many of those people had 6, 7, and 8 day tickets, I'm guessing that it was a small enough demographic that Disney is not concerned about upsetting them. It does seem like a strange time to make this switch though, right when they've plussed up DCA giving the resort more of a potential to be a week-long vacation destination than ever before.

Thanks for your comments, longtimedisneylurker. Hard to know I guess, what marketing strategies they are using. You may be right that typically more people bought 3 or 5 day passes, etc. rather than 6, 7, or 8 day passes, but I wonder why not also get rid of only 1 or 2 day passes then, as I bet they also are not very popular either, compared to the 3 day or 5 day pass.

I think I am just feeling frustrated because there really is not a good reason for them to take away the 6, 7, etc. day passes and they tend to shift around with their reasoning for why they've done that - one Cast Member is telling guests it's due to fraudulent use, another is telling guests that it's because they didn't sell very well.

Percentage wise, it possibly was a smaller percent of us who wish to purchase the 6 and 7 day passes - but if they had 16.1 million people through their gates, I imagine we still collectively make up a very large number of people, and it doesn't make good business sense to upset all of those people. Upon sharing our personal stories, I was hoping that they would be viewing us as individual people and not just 'guests' in general.

Just because Disney Execs all live close to the Parks (one would assume) and obviously have free passes all the time does not mean that we all get to have that same luxury of living so close. Just as I imagine they like to plan a great getaway for their family, miles away, so too do we all, and many of us enjoy making Disneyland be OUR 'go-to' destination. Maybe they will start to understand.

I am also very concerned that those who were specifically told to call a Cast Member, will not be able to get an upgrade at a reasonable cost to a 6 or 7 day ticket, DESPITE Disney mentioning that in the email, that they could help them. I hope those people will update, and let us know what was said when they called in.

Thanks to everyone for your contributions to this thread!

 

[njmeisje]

Seems to me they could just put a name on every ticket, (kinda like Universal does) -- and require ID to enter the park. That would end the scalping and illicit ticket transferring.

 

[smiley_face2]

In July when we upgraded our daughters 6 day park hopper with the extra 2 days, he asked her to sign it then. I would say 90% of the time entering the park she was asked for her id as well. I don't know why they can't just keep that system in place. We did end up getting her an annual pass because we were going to be there for 2 weeks, but I did the upgrade to 8 days just so I would have first hand knowledge that it was working for others here at DIS. While hubby and I and some members of our family are Disney nuts enough that we get annual passes even living up here in Canada, other members of our family are not so we usually end up getting at least a couple of park hopper tickets, so this decisions will still end up impacting our future plans.

 

[longtimedisneylurker]

Thanks for your comments, longtimedisneylurker. Hard to know I guess, what marketing strategies they are using. You may be right that typically more people bought 3 or 5 day passes, etc. rather than 6, 7, or 8 day passes, but I wonder why not also get rid of only 1 or 2 day passes then, as I bet they also are not very popular either, compared to the 3 day or 5 day pass.

I believe you are underestimating the number of day trippers. Disneyland is a big attraction to locals, but not all of them buy annual passes, in part because not everyone is as Disney-crazy as we disboards people are or going once or twice a year is enough for some people or whatever. I'm sure for many people who live close enough, going one day a year is a viable entertainment option. Also, with so much entertainment down that way and with people, as you've pointed out, not being made of money, going to Disneyland one day a year may be plenty and then spreading out their remaining entertainment dollars to experience the variety of other parks and attractions in the area during the rest of the year makes sense.

 

[ValpoCory]

I think I am just feeling frustrated because there really is not a good reason for them to take away the 6, 7, etc. day passes and they tend to shift around with their reasoning for why they've done that - one Cast Member is telling guests it's due to fraudulent use, another is telling guests that it's because they didn't sell very well.

I share your frustration. I'm also not sure why Disney would need to remove a 6 day pass option because it is not selling very well. It's not like it costs them money to offer that. It's just another button on the screen. The only reason that makes any sense is to curtail fraud. The fraudulent ticket brokers are hurt by the max ticket length dropping from 8 to 5.

You can just see the Cast Members in the ticket booths up until now, having to sell 8 day upgrades to these slimeballs. They can't accuse them without proof, and it's very hard to police. So they just complained to their managers, and the free solution was to stop upgrades past 5 days for everybody. I hope they decide to spend the money to bring in the biometric ticket booths and tickets, and train the employees on how to work them. It's more expensive to implement this solution, but it's the right thing to do, IMO.

 

[ValpoCory]

I believe you are underestimating the number of day trippers. Disneyland is a big attraction to locals, but not all of them buy annual passes, in part because not everyone is as Disney-crazy as we disboards people are or going once or twice a year is enough for some people or whatever. I'm sure for many people who live close enough, going one day a year is a viable entertainment option. Also, with so much entertainment down that way and with people, as you've pointed out, not being made of money, going to Disneyland one day a year may be plenty and then spreading out their remaining entertainment dollars to experience the variety of other parks and attractions in the area during the rest of the year makes sense.

Yep. Most DLR guests are day trippers.

 

[8timesblessed]

I tried to post this to that blog. I hope it goes through.

"We were so excited to take our 8 kids to Disneyland and last time we were there in 2010 we spent 7 days in the park and we decided we wanted to spend 10 days this time because it just wasn't enough time last time and now there was more to see and we were excited to see all the holiday lights and decorations. We have our hotel, DVC stay and airfare and now we see the longest ticket you can buy is for 5 days. We were able to upgrade our Citypass tickets in 2010 to 7 day tickets but I've heard that is no longer an option to upgrade past 5 days. We weren't planning another Disneyland trip, we were hoping to visit Disneyworld next year so to upgrade to an annual pass didn't make sense. Plus it's another $2000 to upgrade since the ticket prices went up. Had I known I wouldn't be able to get an 8 day ticket I would've bought our annual passes before the $100 price increase."

 

[jory29]

Seems to me they could just put a name on every ticket, (kinda like Universal does) -- and require ID to enter the park. That would end the scalping and illicit ticket transferring.

You are right it would help to end that. Totally agree, thanks for posting.

In July when we upgraded our daughters 6 day park hopper with the extra 2 days, he asked her to sign it then. I would say 90% of the time entering the park she was asked for her id as well. I don't know why they can't just keep that system in place. We did end up getting her an annual pass because we were going to be there for 2 weeks, but I did the upgrade to 8 days just so I would have first hand knowledge that it was working for others here at DIS. While hubby and I and some members of our family are Disney nuts enough that we get annual passes even living up here in Canada, other members of our family are not so we usually end up getting at least a couple of park hopper tickets, so this decisions will still end up impacting our future plans.

Yes they could keep that system in place but maybe they only have room for locals now? They certainly don't seem concerned about future plans for anyone who has to travel far. Thanks for your comments!

I believe you are underestimating the number of day trippers. Disneyland is a big attraction to locals, but not all of them buy annual passes, in part because not everyone is as Disney-crazy as we disboards people are or going once or twice a year is enough for some people or whatever. I'm sure for many people who live close enough, going one day a year is a viable entertainment option. Also, with so much entertainment down that way and with people, as you've pointed out, not being made of money, going to Disneyland one day a year may be plenty and then spreading out their remaining entertainment dollars to experience the variety of other parks and attractions in the area during the rest of the year makes sense.

I probably am underestimating that, I agree.. my main point was why get rid of 6 and 7 day passes only... why not get rid of any other ticket that isn't their top seller. Locals get such a great rate of an AP with certain days limited but still such a great deal would they really only want one day at a time?

I share your frustration. I'm also not sure why Disney would need to remove a 6 day pass option because it is not selling very well. It's not like it costs them money to offer that. It's just another button on the screen. The only reason that makes any sense is to curtail fraud. The fraudulent ticket brokers are hurt by the max ticket length dropping from 8 to 5.

You can just see the Cast Members in the ticket booths up until now, having to sell 8 day upgrades to these slimeballs. They can't accuse them without proof, and it's very hard to police. So they just complained to their managers, and the free solution was to stop upgrades past 5 days for everybody. I hope they decide to spend the money to bring in the biometric ticket booths and tickets, and train the employees on how to work them. It's more expensive to implement this solution, but it's the right thing to do, IMO.

Why can they not ask for ID at the ticket booths and make them sign their names then? Thanks for all your support and for raising valid issues!

Yep. Most DLR guests are day trippers.

Yeah, I digress lol.... I know when we are there and overhear the conversations it really does seem as though the majority are locals.... day trippers. I still think most of them are AP holders.

 

[jory29]

I tried to post this to that blog. I hope it goes through.

"We were so excited to take our 8 kids to Disneyland and last time we were there in 2010 we spent 7 days in the park and we decided we wanted to spend 10 days this time because it just wasn't enough time last time and now there was more to see and we were excited to see all the holiday lights and decorations. We have our hotel, DVC stay and airfare and now we see the longest ticket you can buy is for 5 days. We were able to upgrade our Citypass tickets in 2010 to 7 day tickets but I've heard that is no longer an option to upgrade past 5 days. We weren't planning another Disneyland trip, we were hoping to visit Disneyworld next year so to upgrade to an annual pass didn't make sense. Plus it's another $2000 to upgrade since the ticket prices went up. Had I known I wouldn't be able to get an 8 day ticket I would've bought our annual passes before the $100 price increase."

8 times blessed, you have a beautiful family! . Thanks for posting this.

Disney execs, are you understanding the passion in these pleas?? Seriously how can you not be hearing this? These are people, not just guests.

This, like many other stories really makes me wonder why you won't fix this now? There is no reason not to do this for your loyal fans and supporters - your guests as you call them.

We are asking for a reasonable request. Please understand where all of us are coming from.

 

[MamaChelle]

Jory29...

I just want to thank you for posting this thread, and also keeping up with it, responding to pretty much every single post.

You have really motivated everyone to send in their frustrations and complaints and stick with it.

I really hope something great comes out of this. Something that will make everyone HAPPY aka 6+ day hopper tickets!!!

I just joined DISboards mmmaaayyybbbeee 2 weeks ago and I am so glad I did cause I would have got the the ticket booth only to be so disappointed that I couldn't upgrade my tickets. Now I know all the scoops!

But again I really just wanted to post to say THANK YOU for some dedication to this thread

 

[dsny1mom]

I admire the tenacity of all that are contacting Disney about the elimination of the 6 day tickets and the $5 upgrade for 7 and 8 days. I truely hope Disney listens and changes things. While I think tickets for more than 5 days will be brought back eventually I doubt the $5 upgrade will be back. Here's why:

The $5 upgrade is not something most knew about and not something Disney talked about or many times honored even when guests approached a ticket CM. It appears to have started as a secret little perk some ticket CMs would use to spread a little pixie dust. When word spread it was a viable option for a cheaper way to get more days and more people started asking for it Disney pulled the plug. When you add on the new and vastly improved DCA 2.0 Disney just doesn't feel they have to sell their tickets as cheaply as $37 a day (that's what a daily cost is with a $295 price for 8 days).

I think there is some connection to the elimination of the longer tickets with the ticket resellers, as well. It is rampant at DL. There are reports of scenes at the front gates almost daily with people being turned away for not having the right answers to questions they should know about when the ticket was first used. We witnessed several very ugly scene complete with children crying and adults swearing last month. I do believe once they get that problem taken care of we may see tickets for more than 5 days make a come back. Of course the price will be higher than the $5 upgrade but lower than what having to buy a 5 day ticket and a one, two or three day ticket on top of the 5 day currently is.

Did Disney take it too far with eliminating everything over a 5 day pass? Of course they did but they are known for being so full of themselves that they over value their product to a fault. They did this big time when DCA first opened and were charging for an upgrade to have an AP that included DCA. They did back off on that and refunded the additonal costs to all that bought the AP that included DCA. I know this happened as we received the refund for our passes that year.

Disney is known for doing some really awesome things to try and boost their profits in areas where they are lacking and then just eliminate them when they have done their job. There were a couple of years in the late 80's where as a DLH guest your admission to DL was free!! They needed to get people into DLH rooms and it worked very well, but needless to say once they got the numbers up at DLH that neat little benifit ended.

We made the leap to PAPs many years ago, and we live in the Chicagoland area. It was cheaper to get a PAP for a 10 day or more visit(s) than it was to buy mutiple tickets. I think we got our first PAPs the year they ended the free admission for guests of the DLH. With the new PAP price of $649 if we do our usual two trips each year of 17 days total our per day cost will still only be $38 a day. IMHO issuing 8 day park hopper tickets that ended up being $37 a day was pretty foolish of DLR. Currently even if one is doing two five day trips a year the cost of a PAP is still lower at $64 a day vs buying multiple tickets.


In the mean time there are alternatives, although they are not as cheap as the $5 upgarde. Buy a lower than PAP pass and go during times with little or no black out days. Go during Halloween and just do the parties on party days. Go during slower times when you can get more done in 5 days. Go to Disney for 5 days and enjoy other local attractions that are free or lower cost than DL. Of course you can just simply boycott Disney altogether but that isn't something I'd choose but in reality it is the one thing Disney would react to if it started to effect their numbers.

I hope everyone keeps fighting the good fight and Disney sees the error of their ways . I just wouldn't be holding my breathe for that $37 a day price for 8 day tickets to come back. I do hope I am wrong though.

dsny1mom

 

[longtimedisneylurker]

I admire the tenacity of all that are contacting Disney about the elimination of the 6 day tickets and the $5 upgrade for 7 and 8 days. I truely hope Disney listens and changes things. While I think tickets for more than 5 days will be brought back eventually I doubt the $5 upgrade will be back. Here's why:

The $5 upgrade is not something most knew about and not something Disney talked about or many times honored even when guests approached a ticket CM. It appears to have started as a secret little perk some ticket CMs would use to spread a little pixie dust. When word spread it was a viable option for a cheaper way to get more days and more people started asking for it Disney pulled the plug. When you add on the new and vastly improved DCA 2.0 Disney just doesn't feel they have to sell their tickets as cheaply as $37 a day (that's what a daily cost is with a $295 price for 8 days).

I think there is some connection to the elimination of the longer tickets with the ticket resellers, as well. It is rampant at DL. There are reports of scenes at the front gates almost daily with people being turned away for not having the right answers to questions they should know about when the ticket was first used. We witnessed several very ugly scene complete with children crying and adults swearing last month. I do believe once they get that problem taken care of we may see tickets for more than 5 days make a come back. Of course the price will be higher than the $5 upgrade but lower than what having to buy a 5 day ticket and a one, two or three day ticket on top of the 5 day currently is.

Did Disney take it too far with eliminating everything over a 5 day pass? Of course they did but they are known for being so full of themselves that they over value their product to a fault. They did this big time when DCA first opened and were charging for an upgrade to have an AP that included DCA. They did back off on that and refunded the additonal costs to all that bought the AP that included DCA. I know this happened as we received the refund for our passes that year.

Disney is known for doing some really awesome things to try and boost their profits in areas where they are lacking and then just eliminate them when they have done their job. There were a couple of years in the late 80's where as a DLH guest your admission to DL was free!! They needed to get people into DLH rooms and it worked very well, but needless to say once they got the numbers up at DLH that neat little benifit ended.

We made the leap to PAPs many years ago, and we live in the Chicagoland area. It was cheaper to get a PAP for a 10 day or more visit(s) than it was to buy mutiple tickets. I think we got our first PAPs the year they ended the free admission for guests of the DLH. With the new PAP price of $649 if we do our usual two trips each year of 17 days total our per day cost will still only be $38 a day. IMHO issuing 8 day park hopper tickets that ended up being $37 a day was pretty foolish of DLR. Currently even if one is doing two five day trips a year the cost of a PAP is still lower at $64 a day vs buying multiple tickets.


In the mean time there are alternatives, although they are not as cheap as the $5 upgarde. Buy a lower than PAP pass and go during times with little or no black out days. Go during Halloween and just do the parties on party days. Go during slower times when you can get more done in 5 days. Go to Disney for 5 days and enjoy other local attractions that are free or lower cost than DL. Of course you can just simply boycott Disney altogether but that isn't something I'd choose but in reality it is the one thing Disney would react to if it started to effect their numbers.

I hope everyone keeps fighting the good fight and Disney sees the error of their ways . I just wouldn't be holding my breathe for that $37 a day price for 8 day tickets to come back. I do hope I am wrong though.

dsny1mom

Very well put. I agree with you 100%.

 

[jory29]

Jory29...

I just want to thank you for posting this thread, and also keeping up with it, responding to pretty much every single post.

You have really motivated everyone to send in their frustrations and complaints and stick with it.

I really hope something great comes out of this. Something that will make everyone HAPPY aka 6+ day hopper tickets!!!

I just joined DISboards mmmaaayyybbbeee 2 weeks ago and I am so glad I did cause I would have got the the ticket booth only to be so disappointed that I couldn't upgrade my tickets. Now I know all the scoops!

But again I really just wanted to post to say THANK YOU for some dedication to this thread

Thank you very much for the very kind words! I am sorry for you though, to have to learn that you can't upgrade your tickets. (Yet!! ) The DISboards have so many really incredible people with vast knowledge that has always been a wealth of info. for us. We never tire of frequenting the boards, it is a nice way to learn of what's going on in the Parks, and various strategies (HydroGuy's stickies/posts are so fantastic!) for how best to navigate through the parks. It keeps us motivated while we wait for our next trip. Welcome aboard!

I admire the tenacity of all that are contacting Disney about the elimination of the 6 day tickets and the $5 upgrade for 7 and 8 days. I truely hope Disney listens and changes things. While I think tickets for more than 5 days will be brought back eventually I doubt the $5 upgrade will be back. Here's why:

The $5 upgrade is not something most knew about and not something Disney talked about or many times honored even when guests approached a ticket CM. It appears to have started as a secret little perk some ticket CMs would use to spread a little pixie dust. When word spread it was a viable option for a cheaper way to get more days and more people started asking for it Disney pulled the plug. When you add on the new and vastly improved DCA 2.0 Disney just doesn't feel they have to sell their tickets as cheaply as $37 a day (that's what a daily cost is with a $295 price for 8 days).

I think there is some connection to the elimination of the longer tickets with the ticket resellers, as well. It is rampant at DL. There are reports of scenes at the front gates almost daily with people being turned away for not having the right answers to questions they should know about when the ticket was first used. We witnessed several very ugly scene complete with children crying and adults swearing last month. I do believe once they get that problem taken care of we may see tickets for more than 5 days make a come back. Of course the price will be higher than the $5 upgrade but lower than what having to buy a 5 day ticket and a one, two or three day ticket on top of the 5 day currently is.

Did Disney take it too far with eliminating everything over a 5 day pass? Of course they did but they are known for being so full of themselves that they over value their product to a fault. They did this big time when DCA first opened and were charging for an upgrade to have an AP that included DCA. They did back off on that and refunded the additonal costs to all that bought the AP that included DCA. I know this happened as we received the refund for our passes that year.

Disney is known for doing some really awesome things to try and boost their profits in areas where they are lacking and then just eliminate them when they have done their job. There were a couple of years in the late 80's where as a DLH guest your admission to DL was free!! They needed to get people into DLH rooms and it worked very well, but needless to say once they got the numbers up at DLH that neat little benifit ended.

We made the leap to PAPs many years ago, and we live in the Chicagoland area. It was cheaper to get a PAP for a 10 day or more visit(s) than it was to buy mutiple tickets. I think we got our first PAPs the year they ended the free admission for guests of the DLH. With the new PAP price of $649 if we do our usual two trips each year of 17 days total our per day cost will still only be $38 a day. IMHO issuing 8 day park hopper tickets that ended up being $37 a day was pretty foolish of DLR. Currently even if one is doing two five day trips a year the cost of a PAP is still lower at $64 a day vs buying multiple tickets.


In the mean time there are alternatives, although they are not as cheap as the $5 upgarde. Buy a lower than PAP pass and go during times with little or no black out days. Go during Halloween and just do the parties on party days. Go during slower times when you can get more done in 5 days. Go to Disney for 5 days and enjoy other local attractions that are free or lower cost than DL. Of course you can just simply boycott Disney altogether but that isn't something I'd choose but in reality it is the one thing Disney would react to if it started to effect their numbers.

I hope everyone keeps fighting the good fight and Disney sees the error of their ways . I just wouldn't be holding my breathe for that $37 a day price for 8 day tickets to come back. I do hope I am wrong though.

dsny1mom

Re: When word spread it was a viable option for a cheaper way to get more days and more people started asking for it Disney pulled the plug.

I'm not certain it worked like that when more people started asking for it, because it had been available for quite some time, and even if others had not known they 'could' ask for more days, chances are pretty good that they did ask at the ticket gates. My point is it was going on for such a long time, I wonder why they would stop it later, rather than sooner.

Re: There are reports of scenes at the front gates almost daily with people being turned away for not having the right answers to questions they should know about when the ticket was first used. We witnessed several very ugly scene complete with children crying and adults swearing last month.

That is so sad, isn't it? The ugly scenes and the swearing. I feel badly for the kids whose parents tried to cut corners by purchasing from a non-legit source. The idea that they were supposed to know when the ticket was first used should have been their first clue that this policy was not right. Again, simply ensuring everyone has their names printed on tickets, with ID (school ID for kids, etc.) with random checks, would help to combat this problem, as would the biometrics others have spoken of. We've only noticed one incident at the gates in all the days we have been in the parks (probably 56 days, entering and exiting all of the time) but I don't doubt that it happens. Just that the percentage of fraudulent tickets is probably pretty low compared to annual sales. Not to mention, it is not a complete loss for them as they are still earning profit on food and merchandise from those who use those tickets. But in any event it is wrong for people to use those tickets. Disney can easily find a way to enforce that.

Re: I do believe once they get that problem taken care of we may see tickets for more than 5 days make a come back. Of course the price will be higher than the $5 upgrade but lower than what having to buy a 5 day ticket and a one, two or three day ticket on top of the 5 day currently is.


My whole argument is based on the fact that once you dish out so much money for a 5 day Park Hopper, the additional $5 per day for each day over was necessary to offer, or else people will still take their money elsewhere. The fact is, when a family of 4 spends $1080 to get into the park for 5 days, an estimate of $375 for daily food if 2 meals are eaten there, as well as souvenirs, candy, (fudge!!), cupcakes, CANDY CANES, etc., then I feel that it is a good thing for them to give their guests a little reprieve on the remaining days. Those who want 6 or 7 day Park Hopper passes IMO are more prone to taking longer breaks away at the pool, and so we don't make the Parks crowded all of the time. $1080 divided by 5 days means that each day is $216 for the family of 4. This is getting to be pretty extreme, IMO, as there are other options out there that a family can do with that money.

Re: Did Disney take it too far with eliminating everything over a 5 day pass? Of course they did but they are known for being so full of themselves that they over value their product to a fault. They did this big time when DCA first opened and were charging for an upgrade to have an AP that included DCA. They did back off on that and refunded the additonal costs to all that bought the AP that included DCA. I know this happened as we received the refund for our passes that year.

This means hope for us all, thank you for sharing this story! So... Disney was wrong about something, and they backed off and even refunded the difference back to their guests. I hope they will see that taking away a good thing for us (especially after raising the prices by so much 2 times during this past year) is a mistake, and then they will make good on it.

Re: We made the leap to PAPs many years ago, and we live in the Chicagoland area. It was cheaper to get a PAP for a 10 day or more visit(s) than it was to buy mutiple tickets. and: IMHO issuing 8 day park hopper tickets that ended up being $37 a day was pretty foolish of DLR. Currently even if one is doing two five day trips a year the cost of a PAP is still lower at $64 a day vs buying multiple tickets.

My argument above, about general cost overall, is an argument against the idea that Disney was foolish to implement the 8 day Park Hopper. I don't think it was foolish at all, especially for those families who have to travel so far to get there. It was very much appreciated. The profit is still being made on tickets, as well as on food and merchandise, as well, they are maintaining their loyal customer base, ensuring their guests come back again and again. The price raise was bad enough, but taking away the option of extra days was really like a slap in the face. It's great for you to be able to get in on that annual pass, but many families (myself included) can not afford to fly on a family trip 2 times in a year.

Re: In the mean time there are alternatives, although they are not as cheap as the $5 upgarde. Buy a lower than PAP pass and go during times with little or no black out days. Go during Halloween and just do the parties on party days. Go during slower times when you can get more done in 5 days. Go to Disney for 5 days and enjoy other local attractions that are free or lower cost than DL. Of course you can just simply boycott Disney altogether but that isn't something I'd choose but in reality it is the one thing Disney would react to if it started to effect their numbers.

We always go during slower times, (off-season) however, we find that the wait lines are long as nothing is running at full capacity, such as only one track on BTMR, matterhorn, etc. So many times we have found we needed those extra days. We do find that it has not been uncrowded for a long time now. Those days are over. Going during Halloween isn't desirable for us, the Halloween crowds were hideous a couple of years ago. When we go to DL we want to BE at Disneyland, we don't want to try any other attractions, lol. I also wouldn't choose to boycott Disney altogether, but I could see us choosing to go maybe 1 week (oops, I mean 5 days) every 3 years unless they change this.

Re: I hope everyone keeps fighting the good fight and Disney sees the error of their ways . I just wouldn't be holding my breathe for that $37 a day price for 8 day tickets to come back. I do hope I am wrong though.

Thank you for your support!! I hope everyone keeps fighting this change too, so maybe Disney will see the error of their ways. I wouldn't mind seeing tickets as much as $10 more per day per person, and it's still money in their pocket, for sure.

Very well put. I agree with you 100%.

Thanks for your input and for your posts in this thread as well. Thanks for sticking with it.

 

[dsny1mom]

Re: When word spread it was a viable option for a cheaper way to get more days and more people started asking for it Disney pulled the plug.

I'm not certain it worked like that when more people started asking for it, because it had been available for quite some time, and even if others had not known they 'could' ask for more days, chances are pretty good that they did ask at the ticket gates. My point is it was going on for such a long time, I wonder why they would stop it later, rather than sooner.

We'll never know for sure why they stopped the $5 upgrade. What we do know is they stopped it when more and more people were finding out about it (just here on the DIS countless people found out about it), ticket fraud was at an all time high and DCA became a full day destination.

You have to keep in mind that Disney didn't EVER advertise the $5 upgrade, not at the ticket booths and not on line. If you where to call and inquire about an option past 6 days you were usually told what is being said now, buy more tickets or upgrade to an AP. In fact some ticket booth CMs refused to do it when asked even though they knew it was an option. Before when someone wanted to stay past their then 6 day ticket they wouldn't ask for the upgrade because they didn't know that it existed. What they would do is buy tickets at whatever the advertised price was. Might some have asked about special deals? Sure but I highly doubt it was more than an occasional occurance.

Just before the latest price hike I called DL about the $5 upgrade. My one daughter didn't think she'd be able to make the second trip this year so we thought we'd look into upgrading a max length hopper to 10 days. I had read about it here on the DIS. Been going to DL for 56 years and I didn't even know about it! I was first told she would need to buy two tickets that added up to 10 days. I then went into a bit more detail saying I had read on a Disney fan site that a 6 day could be upgraded for $5 to an 8 day and we were traveling from Chicago, etc. The CM put me on hold then came back and said that at the discretion of the ticket booth CM an upgrade to 8 days from 6 days was possible but not guarenteed, however upgrading to 10 days was not possible, so we'd still have to buy an additonal two day ticket even if they upgraded to a 6 day. We ended up just getting her the PAP in the end. Too many what ifs and I wanted to get the lower price before the increase. My best guess is that unless you knew someone that had actually gotten the $5 upgrade or read it on a fan site you either didn't know it existed or if you did and you were denied the upgrade you only got it if you were persistant. I recall very recently reading people were having to go to mutiple booths before they would find a CM willing to do the upgrade. Then the plug was pulled.

Re: There are reports of scenes at the front gates almost daily with people being turned away for not having the right answers to questions they should know about when the ticket was first used. We witnessed several very ugly scene complete with children crying and adults swearing last month.

That is so sad, isn't it? The ugly scenes and the swearing. I feel badly for the kids whose parents tried to cut corners by purchasing from a non-legit source. The idea that they were supposed to know when the ticket was first used should have been their first clue that this policy was not right. Again, simply ensuring everyone has their names printed on tickets, with ID (school ID for kids, etc.) with random checks, would help to combat this problem, as would the biometrics others have spoken of. We've only noticed one incident at the gates in all the days we have been in the parks (probably 56 days, entering and exiting all of the time) but I don't doubt that it happens. Just that the percentage of fraudulent tickets is probably pretty low compared to annual sales. Not to mention, it is not a complete loss for them as they are still earning profit on food and merchandise from those who use those tickets. But in any event it is wrong for people to use those tickets. Disney can easily find a way to enforce that.

Sad for the children to not get to go into DL when they were told they would and for having to see their parents act like fools when they are denied entrance, yes. The adults are getting off easy by just having the transfered tickets confiscated. I wish what they were doing was considered an actual crime in Ca. that might curtail the transfering of tickets. People know when they are trying to cheat the system. They know they are breaking the non transferable rule yet they do it anyway. Trying to save money doesn't make it right or understandable. The sad reality is not everyone can afford to go to DL for even one day and it has been that way since it opened in 1955.

784 entrances (minimum) into DL for me since I first went in 1956. Up until maybe 5 years ago we rarely saw problems at the gates. The past 5 years have been a regular war zone at times. Guests screaming and swearing, children crying and on several occasions security escorting cheats away. Biometrics is probably the only viable resolution. My future SIL had a hopper when he joined us a few years ago to propose to my DD. The extra time it took for him to show ID was a real time hog in the entrance line. They were only doing spot checks back then so if they did it with everyone who had a paper ticket the line to get in would move at such a slow rate guests would be belly aching before they even got to the turnstyle.

Re: I do believe once they get that problem taken care of we may see tickets for more than 5 days make a come back. Of course the price will be higher than the $5 upgrade but lower than what having to buy a 5 day ticket and a one, two or three day ticket on top of the 5 day currently is.


My whole argument is based on the fact that once you dish out so much money for a 5 day Park Hopper, the additional $5 per day for each day over was necessary to offer, or else people will still take their money elsewhere. The fact is, when a family of 4 spends $1080 to get into the park for 5 days, an estimate of $375 for daily food if 2 meals are eaten there, as well as souvenirs, candy, (fudge!!), cupcakes, CANDY CANES, etc., then I feel that it is a good thing for them to give their guests a little reprieve on the remaining days. Those who want 6 or 7 day Park Hopper passes IMO are more prone to taking longer breaks away at the pool, and so we don't make the Parks crowded all of the time. $1080 divided by 5 days means that each day is $216 for the family of 4. This is getting to be pretty extreme, IMO, as there are other options out there that a family can do with that money.

Hate to disagree with you, you seem like such a nice person, but I don't agree with this at all. It's close to $37 for a single person to see a first run movie and eat some snacks for two hours. I don't think 12 hours in the best theme park in the world should cost a day guest (that's what everyone is considered that isn't a AP) what it costs to see a movie and eat some snacks.

Also keep in mind that even though it is no longe possibler to go to DLR for $37 a day for 8 days it's still a saving of 44% over a one day hopper ticket at $70 per day.

Re: Did Disney take it too far with eliminating everything over a 5 day pass? Of course they did but they are known for being so full of themselves that they over value their product to a fault. They did this big time when DCA first opened and were charging for an upgrade to have an AP that included DCA. They did back off on that and refunded the additonal costs to all that bought the AP that included DCA. I know this happened as we received the refund for our passes that year.

This means hope for us all, thank you for sharing this story! So... Disney was wrong about something, and they backed off and even refunded the difference back to their guests. I hope they will see that taking away a good thing for us (especially after raising the prices by so much 2 times during this past year) is a mistake, and then they will make good on it.

Yes they were wrong and they reacted quickly after DCA opened and it was apparent it was not what they claimed it would be.

I don't want to get your hopes up because what you all are dissapointed with is far different from what happened with the APs when DCA opened. What happened back then is Disney was charging more for less than advertised what you are trying to fight is Disney charging more for what they are now advertising and actually offering.

Re: We made the leap to PAPs many years ago, and we live in the Chicagoland area. It was cheaper to get a PAP for a 10 day or more visit(s) than it was to buy mutiple tickets. and: IMHO issuing 8 day park hopper tickets that ended up being $37 a day was pretty foolish of DLR. Currently even if one is doing two five day trips a year the cost of a PAP is still lower at $64 a day vs buying multiple tickets.

My argument above, about general cost overall, is an argument against the idea that Disney was foolish to implement the 8 day Park Hopper. I don't think it was foolish at all, especially for those families who have to travel so far to get there. It was very much appreciated. The profit is still being made on tickets, as well as on food and merchandise, as well, they are maintaining their loyal customer base, ensuring their guests come back again and again. The price raise was bad enough, but taking away the option of extra days was really like a slap in the face. It's great for you to be able to get in on that annual pass, but many families (myself included) can not afford to fly on a family trip 2 times in a year.

For every guest that bulks at the current prices vs the old prices there is another guest willing to pay. They won't miss several hundred or even several thousand people not coming for an additional day or three. Now if you were talking several hundreds of thousands not coming at all then you've got their attention.

Let me say as a HUGE DLR fan I wasn't thrilled with the current PAP price hike. I made sure I renewed at the old price and will renew next year. If it takes scrimping and saving and cutting out other things in my life I'll do it. I'm a fan and I value what DLR has to offer.

Airfare is the smallest portion of my trips these days. With great offers from United and Southwest I haven't paid to fly to So Cal in the past three years. All you have to have is good credit and the willingness to open credit cards. Of course paying them off every month and not paying interest would be a given.

Re: In the mean time there are alternatives, although they are not as cheap as the $5 upgarde. Buy a lower than PAP pass and go during times with little or no black out days. Go during Halloween and just do the parties on party days. Go during slower times when you can get more done in 5 days. Go to Disney for 5 days and enjoy other local attractions that are free or lower cost than DL. Of course you can just simply boycott Disney altogether but that isn't something I'd choose but in reality it is the one thing Disney would react to if it started to effect their numbers.

We always go during slower times, (off-season) however, we find that the wait lines are long as nothing is running at full capacity, such as only one track on BTMR, matterhorn, etc. So many times we have found we needed those extra days. We do find that it has not been uncrowded for a long time now. Those days are over. Going during Halloween isn't desirable for us, the Halloween crowds were hideous a couple of years ago. When we go to DL we want to BE at Disneyland, we don't want to try any other attractions, lol. I also wouldn't choose to boycott Disney altogether, but I could see us choosing to go maybe 1 week (oops, I mean 5 days) every 3 years unless they change this.

I can relate. We stay 17 days a year at the DLH and only go to DL and DCA. In the past 5 years we have snuck over to Knotts to eat at the CDR a couple of times but don't even bother with the actual theme park.

There is no way I could make it 3 years without a return trip. I barely make it from Oct to July without developing a twitch.

Re: I hope everyone keeps fighting the good fight and Disney sees the error of their ways . I just wouldn't be holding my breathe for that $37 a day price for 8 day tickets to come back. I do hope I am wrong though.

Thank you for your support!! I hope everyone keeps fighting this change too, so maybe Disney will see the error of their ways. I wouldn't mind seeing tickets as much as $10 more per day per person

Your welcome. I truely hope Disney does bring back tickets for a longer duration than just 5 days. I also hope those that want them will be thankful they did even if they are more than an additional $5 or $10 a day.

Good luck!

dsny1mom

 

[jory29]

Thanks for taking the time to discuss all of your points. I am going to highlight anything you stated, in red, then I will reply in blue, as it will be easier viewing, (and easier to see which part you said, and which part I said.) Anything in BOLD is what you had stated before in an earlier post. Anything in plain black font not bold was what I had replied to you.

Re: When word spread it was a viable option for a cheaper way to get more days and more people started asking for it Disney pulled the plug.

I'm not certain it worked like that when more people started asking for it, because it had been available for quite some time, and even if others had not known they 'could' ask for more days, chances are pretty good that they did ask at the ticket gates. My point is it was going on for such a long time, I wonder why they would stop it later, rather than sooner.

We'll never know for sure why they stopped the $5 upgrade. What we do know is they stopped it when more and more people were finding out about it (just here on the DIS countless people found out about it), ticket fraud was at an all time high and DCA became a full day destination.

You have to keep in mind that Disney didn't EVER advertise the $5 upgrade, not at the ticket booths and not on line. If you where to call and inquire about an option past 6 days you were usually told what is being said now, buy more tickets or upgrade to an AP. In fact some ticket booth CMs refused to do it when asked even though they knew it was an option. Before when someone wanted to stay past their then 6 day ticket they wouldn't ask for the upgrade because they didn't know that it existed. What they would do is buy tickets at whatever the advertised price was. Might some have asked about special deals? Sure but I highly doubt it was more than an occasional occurance.

Just before the latest price hike I called DL about the $5 upgrade. My one daughter didn't think she'd be able to make the second trip this year so we thought we'd look into upgrading a max length hopper to 10 days. I had read about it here on the DIS. Been going to DL for 56 years and I didn't even know about it! I was first told she would need to buy two tickets that added up to 10 days. I then went into a bit more detail saying I had read on a Disney fan site that a 6 day could be upgraded for $5 to an 8 day and we were traveling from Chicago, etc. The CM put me on hold then came back and said that at the discretion of the ticket booth CM an upgrade to 8 days from 6 days was possible but not guarenteed, however upgrading to 10 days was not possible, so we'd still have to buy an additonal two day ticket even if they upgraded to a 6 day. We ended up just getting her the PAP in the end. Too many what ifs and I wanted to get the lower price before the increase. My best guess is that unless you knew someone that had actually gotten the $5 upgrade or read it on a fan site you either didn't know it existed or if you did and you were denied the upgrade you only got it if you were persistant. I recall very recently reading people were having to go to mutiple booths before they would find a CM willing to do the upgrade. Then the plug was pulled.

It was an interesting time for them to finally pull the plug, for sure. They could easily have done it sooner.

Re: There are reports of scenes at the front gates almost daily with people being turned away for not having the right answers to questions they should know about when the ticket was first used. We witnessed several very ugly scene complete with children crying and adults swearing last month.

That is so sad, isn't it? The ugly scenes and the swearing. I feel badly for the kids whose parents tried to cut corners by purchasing from a non-legit source. The idea that they were supposed to know when the ticket was first used should have been their first clue that this policy was not right. Again, simply ensuring everyone has their names printed on tickets, with ID (school ID for kids, etc.) with random checks, would help to combat this problem, as would the biometrics others have spoken of. We've only noticed one incident at the gates in all the days we have been in the parks (probably 56 days, entering and exiting all of the time) but I don't doubt that it happens. Just that the percentage of fraudulent tickets is probably pretty low compared to annual sales. Not to mention, it is not a complete loss for them as they are still earning profit on food and merchandise from those who use those tickets. But in any event it is wrong for people to use those tickets. Disney can easily find a way to enforce that.

Sad for the children to not get to go into DL when they were told they would and for having to see their parents act like fools when they are denied entrance, yes. The adults are getting off easy by just having the transfered tickets confiscated. I wish what they were doing was considered an actual crime in Ca. that might curtail the transfering of tickets. People know when they are trying to cheat the system. They know they are breaking the non transferable rule yet they do it anyway. Trying to save money doesn't make it right or understandable. The sad reality is not everyone can afford to go to DL for even one day and it has been that way since it opened in 1955.

784 entrances (minimum) into DL for me since I first went in 1956. Up until maybe 5 years ago we rarely saw problems at the gates. The past 5 years have been a regular war zone at times. Guests screaming and swearing, children crying and on several occasions security escorting cheats away. Biometrics is probably the only viable resolution. My future SIL had a hopper when he joined us a few years ago to propose to my DD. The extra time it took for him to show ID was a real time hog in the entrance line. They were only doing spot checks back then so if they did it with everyone who had a paper ticket the line to get in would move at such a slow rate guests would be belly aching before they even got to the turnstyle.


I think people will do whatever they need to, to get into the park, at least in terms of waiting in line and following Disney protocol of checking IDs or whatever. Have a lot of other DISboard members seen a lot of fraudulent use too? If this has gone on for at least 5 years, you'd think they would have found a way to stop it sooner, beside just suddenly now cutting out the longer day Park Hoppers.

Re: I do believe once they get that problem taken care of we may see tickets for more than 5 days make a come back. Of course the price will be higher than the $5 upgrade but lower than what having to buy a 5 day ticket and a one, two or three day ticket on top of the 5 day currently is.


My whole argument is based on the fact that once you dish out so much money for a 5 day Park Hopper, the additional $5 per day for each day over was necessary to offer, or else people will still take their money elsewhere. The fact is, when a family of 4 spends $1080 to get into the park for 5 days, an estimate of $375 for daily food if 2 meals are eaten there, as well as souvenirs, candy, (fudge!!), cupcakes, CANDY CANES, etc., then I feel that it is a good thing for them to give their guests a little reprieve on the remaining days. Those who want 6 or 7 day Park Hopper passes IMO are more prone to taking longer breaks away at the pool, and so we don't make the Parks crowded all of the time. $1080 divided by 5 days means that each day is $216 for the family of 4. This is getting to be pretty extreme, IMO, as there are other options out there that a family can do with that money.

Hate to disagree with you, you seem like such a nice person, but I don't agree with this at all. It's close to $37 for a single person to see a first run movie and eat some snacks for two hours. I don't think 12 hours in the best theme park in the world should cost a day guest (that's what everyone is considered that isn't a AP) what it costs to see a movie and eat some snacks.

Also keep in mind that even though it is no longe possibler to go to DLR for $37 a day for 8 days it's still a saving of 44% over a one day hopper ticket at $70 per day.

But I don't see a fun movie several days in a row, and spend additional money on food/merchandise etc. That's my point. My point is for a family of 4 in the Parks this all adds up as one big lump sum for them with anything past 5 days, and it would be nice to have the option of spending more time in the Parks as before, with what services we had been used to, despite the huge price increase in the past year or more, which I had been willing to deal with.

Re: Did Disney take it too far with eliminating everything over a 5 day pass? Of course they did but they are known for being so full of themselves that they over value their product to a fault. They did this big time when DCA first opened and were charging for an upgrade to have an AP that included DCA. They did back off on that and refunded the additonal costs to all that bought the AP that included DCA. I know this happened as we received the refund for our passes that year.

This means hope for us all, thank you for sharing this story! So... Disney was wrong about something, and they backed off and even refunded the difference back to their guests. I hope they will see that taking away a good thing for us (especially after raising the prices by so much 2 times during this past year) is a mistake, and then they will make good on it.

Yes they were wrong and they reacted quickly after DCA opened and it was apparent it was not what they claimed it would be.

I don't want to get your hopes up because what you all are dissapointed with is far different from what happened with the APs when DCA opened. What happened back then is Disney was charging more for less than advertised what you are trying to fight is Disney charging more for what they are now advertising and actually offering.

Disney IS charging more (for what they are now advertising as a RESORT - what kind of RESORT limits you to 5 days *or pay more per each day you go over 5?* .) Talk about punishing their loyal guests.

Re: We made the leap to PAPs many years ago, and we live in the Chicagoland area. It was cheaper to get a PAP for a 10 day or more visit(s) than it was to buy mutiple tickets. and: IMHO issuing 8 day park hopper tickets that ended up being $37 a day was pretty foolish of DLR. Currently even if one is doing two five day trips a year the cost of a PAP is still lower at $64 a day vs buying multiple tickets.

My argument above, about general cost overall, is an argument against the idea that Disney was foolish to implement the 8 day Park Hopper. I don't think it was foolish at all, especially for those families who have to travel so far to get there. It was very much appreciated. The profit is still being made on tickets, as well as on food and merchandise, as well, they are maintaining their loyal customer base, ensuring their guests come back again and again. The price raise was bad enough, but taking away the option of extra days was really like a slap in the face. It's great for you to be able to get in on that annual pass, but many families (myself included) can not afford to fly on a family trip 2 times in a year.

For every guest that bulks at the current prices vs the old prices there is another guest willing to pay. They won't miss several hundred or even several thousand people not coming for an additional day or three. Now if you were talking several hundreds of thousands not coming at all then you've got their attention.

Let me say as a HUGE DLR fan I wasn't thrilled with the current PAP price hike. I made sure I renewed at the old price and will renew next year. If it takes scrimping and saving and cutting out other things in my life I'll do it. I'm a fan and I value what DLR has to offer.

Airfare is the smallest portion of my trips these days. With great offers from United and Southwest I haven't paid to fly to So Cal in the past three years. All you have to have is good credit and the willingness to open credit cards. Of course paying them off every month and not paying interest would be a given.


It's good for you to get wonderful deals on flights. The cheapest flight possible for us is around $475 per person return, but we save what we can on flights by redeeming our hard earned air miles, etc. and so we do have to pay only $220 per person in taxes plus insurance, etc. It is a lot of dedicated planning, to earn what we do in air miles, to be able to go.

Re: In the mean time there are alternatives, although they are not as cheap as the $5 upgarde. Buy a lower than PAP pass and go during times with little or no black out days. Go during Halloween and just do the parties on party days. Go during slower times when you can get more done in 5 days. Go to Disney for 5 days and enjoy other local attractions that are free or lower cost than DL. Of course you can just simply boycott Disney altogether but that isn't something I'd choose but in reality it is the one thing Disney would react to if it started to effect their numbers.

We always go during slower times, (off-season) however, we find that the wait lines are long as nothing is running at full capacity, such as only one track on BTMR, matterhorn, etc. So many times we have found we needed those extra days. We do find that it has not been uncrowded for a long time now. Those days are over. Going during Halloween isn't desirable for us, the Halloween crowds were hideous a couple of years ago. When we go to DL we want to BE at Disneyland, we don't want to try any other attractions, lol. I also wouldn't choose to boycott Disney altogether, but I could see us choosing to go maybe 1 week (oops, I mean 5 days) every 3 years unless they change this.

I can relate. We stay 17 days a year at the DLH and only go to DL and DCA. In the past 5 years we have snuck over to Knotts to eat at the CDR a couple of times but don't even bother with the actual theme park.

There is no way I could make it 3 years without a return trip. I barely make it from Oct to July without developing a twitch.


To go for 5 days isn't going to pan out for us now, since it costs so much to get out there to only spend 5 days there, and we really are there just for Disney. I could consider trying Knott's Berry Farm though, I guess, as some have suggested. Surely Disney will change things, but if not, we will have to start to look elsewhere as we won't be coming out there annually for a week at a time, perhaps only every few years or so.

Re: I hope everyone keeps fighting the good fight and Disney sees the error of their ways . I just wouldn't be holding my breathe for that $37 a day price for 8 day tickets to come back. I do hope I am wrong though.

Thank you for your support!! I hope everyone keeps fighting this change too, so maybe Disney will see the error of their ways. I wouldn't mind seeing tickets as much as $10 more per day per person

Your welcome. I truely hope Disney does bring back tickets for a longer duration than just 5 days. I also hope those that want them will be thankful they did even if they are more than an additional $5 or $10 a day.

Good luck!

I think they are having enough interest and people requesting 6 and 7 day Park Hoppers so hopefully they will come back soon. I doubt they would go much past the $10 or so extra per day past the 5 day Park Hopper, once someone already spent so much on the first 5 days. That was the reasoning in the beginning, I think, for why they offered an extra day for only $5. Plus, they know people from out of town have travel schedules, so at least one of those days they likely were not in the parks for the whole day anyway.

dsny1mom

 

[cmwade77]

I agree with contacting Disney directly but what really moves business to change is Bad Publicity. All of our comments need to be sent to travel blogs/writers, local reporters, and any media in general asking them to interview the Disney management and interview us as customers. Disney probably wouldn't want to see our quotes on this matter out in print.

This is what really needs to happen, but I'm afraid a few people complaining won't hit the news, it will take a lot more than that or some heart wrenching story.