Are People Getting a Bit E-Ticket Obsessed?

[rteetz]

Why would 7dmt not be considered an eticket? Serious question and not sarcasm, I guess I just don't understand the term if it's not.

Mine train could've and should've been an e ticket. The original plans for the ride were longer and had more show scenes. Mine train is usually described as something between big thunder and barnstormer. Big thunder is an e ticket. Barnstormer is probably a c ticket. Most classify mine train as a d ticket which is where at least I think is best fit. Today it is harder to classify rides in these categories. Mine train is a good ride and based on what I have seen and heard about how it was supposed to be I think it's best classified as a D ticket. Mine train doesn't make many go wow but it is still very enjoyable.

 

[adam.adbe]

Surely, if we try to map the closest analogue today for actual 'tickets', it'd be FastPass+. Essentially for the visitor, you're replacing cost for a ticket with time spent queuing or FastPass usage. By that metric, even though I personally don't get the draw, SDMT looks a lot like an e-ticket.

 

[Eoghann]

Mine train could've and should've been an e ticket. The original plans for the ride were longer and had more show scenes. Mine train is usually described as something between big thunder and barnstormer. Big thunder is an e ticket. Barnstormer is probably a c ticket. Most classify mine train as a d ticket which is where at least I think is best fit. Today it is harder to classify rides in these categories. Mine train is a good ride and based on what I have seen and heard about how it was supposed to be I think it's best classified as a D ticket. Mine train doesn't make many go wow but it is still very enjoyable.

This is why I think using the E Ticket terminolog is counter-productive. No two people seem to entirely agree on what is or is an E Ticket. TSMM, Soarin and 7DMT all either are and aren't just according to posters in this thread. If I was to go by my families reaction to 7DMT (rode it 4 times in one vacation) I guess it would be. I on the other hand did it once and will likely never do it again.

Also the reasons given for E Tickets are inconsistent here. Is it to gobble up people who are in the parks or to get them to travel to the parks in the first place?

If people can't agree on what the term means or how to apply it, what's the point in constantly talking about it?

 

[rteetz]

This is why I think using the E Ticket terminolog is counter-productive. No two people seem to entirely agree on what is or is an E Ticket. TSMM, Soarin and 7DMT all either are and aren't just according to posters in this thread. If I was to go by my families reaction to 7DMT (rode it 4 times in one vacation) I guess it would be. I on the other hand did it once and will likely never do it again.

Also the reasons given for E Tickets are inconsistent here. Is it to gobble up people who are in the parks or to get them to travel to the parks in the first place?

If people can't agree on what the term means or how to apply it, what's the point in constantly talking about it?

I agree to a point. A lot of rides people can agree on such as splash, space and big thunder all being E tickets. It's rides like you mentioned TSMM and Mine train that are kind of in the middle some say e some say d. I've never heard someone say soarin was less than an e so. Maybe the rides in the middle should be in their own category like D+ or E-.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I think Mine Train is an E ticket. JMHO.

 

[johde]

Mine train could've and should've been an e ticket. The original plans for the ride were longer and had more show scenes. Mine train is usually described as something between big thunder and barnstormer. Big thunder is an e ticket. Barnstormer is probably a c ticket. Most classify mine train as a d ticket which is where at least I think is best fit. Today it is harder to classify rides in these categories. Mine train is a good ride and based on what I have seen and heard about how it was supposed to be I think it's best classified as a D ticket. Mine train doesn't make many go wow but it is still very enjoyable.

I would agree, for me, Mine Train is a solid D ticket. For me, the E ticket in this Category is Revenge of the Mummy at Universal. 7DMT has has "2" show scenes in the indoor section covering about 1 minute of time and the classic tag scene at the end.. ROTM has 2 minutes of "dark ride" split among 5 distinct scenes and the Brandon Frasier scene at the end. The Innoventions on 7dmt are swing seats and projected faces on the Dwarves. On ROTM, the First Imhotep was a state of the art Animatronic for it's day and the Fire Brain in the fake Unload.

 

[circus4u]

The fantasyland expansion didn't have any e tickets...

Ummm, that's in the eyes of the beholder. My E-ticket may be someone else's C-ticket.

 

[circus4u]

I've never heard someone say soarin was less than an e so. Maybe the rides in the middle should be in their own category like D+ or E-.

To add fuel to the fire, I'll say it, I don't think Soarin' is anywhere near an E-Ticket. And that is my opinion and mine only. Fast Pass used once just to see what it was like. It was enjoyable one time, but for me and my wife, not worth another Fast Pass or standing in line.

 

[minnie-apple-mouse]

I think Mine Train is an E ticket. JMHO.

It might be the most popular attraction at WDW. But then we would have to define "popular" I guess.

 

[circus4u]

Surely, if we try to map the closest analogue today for actual 'tickets', it'd be FastPass+. Essentially for the visitor, you're replacing cost for a ticket with time spent queuing or FastPass usage. By that metric, even though I personally don't get the draw, SDMT looks a lot like an e-ticket.

I think that is the best definition I have seen. Even if the attraction does not offer Fast Pass, if you would be willing to use a Fast Pass were it available, then in your case, it is an E-Ticket. And who cares what someone else thinks!

 

[ArwenMarie]

It might be the most popular attraction at WDW. But then we would have to define "popular" I guess.

Definitely the hardest to get a FP+ for right now (other than A&E)

 

[peg110]

Ummm, that's in the eyes of the beholder. My E-ticket may be someone else's C-ticket.

Agreed!

To add fuel to the fire, I'll say it, I don't think Soarin' is anywhere near an E-Ticket. And that is my opinion and mine only. Fast Pass used once just to see what it was like. It was enjoyable one time, but for me and my wife, not worth another Fast Pass or standing in line.

Based on your post above (eye of beholder) I disagree. I think Soarin' is most definitely what "I" would call an E-Ticket (worthy) ride and I truly enjoy it very much. I'd rather do Soarn' then 7DMT or even Test Track. As you noted, however, it is in the eye of the behold.

That being said, I believe only the "Park" can declare the "E-Ticket" rides. While I never had to deal with it personally, as I understand it an "E-Ticket" ride is one that requires a separate/different ticket which is typically also more expensive and/or limited number. Thus it's based more on popularity (perceived or not) of the ride.

From Wikipedia:

The phrase E ticket (or E ticket ride) refers to the admission ticket system used at the Disneyland and Magic Kingdom theme parks before 1982, where the E ticket (officially termed "E coupon") admitted the bearer to the newest, most advanced, and/or most popular rides and attractions.

Since these tickets aren't used anymore, should we even try to apply these labels? Particularly since it would be Disney themselves that would need to label it. Just saying, that's all.

 

[minnie-apple-mouse]

Since these tickets aren't used anymore, should we even try to apply these labels? Particularly since it would be Disney themselves that would need to label it. Just saying, that's all.

Doesn't make a lot of sense anymore.

I would think if 7DMT is a "D" or whatever-they should make more "D" attractions.

Somebody on here could make a formula that takes into account a number of factors to obtain the most "popular" attractions in order at each park and overall I suppose. But it would be complicated and probably impossible.

1) overall ride capacity
2) how soon FP+ are filled
3) average SB wait time

Even then, it could only be for attractions. Fantasmic for "example" could easily be the favorite attraction of many folks, but without it running shows all day long-it would never score very high in attendance, same with A&E.

Now if the new Frozen at EPCOT is not a high volume ride, it will not score high in that category-but could score high in FP+ ressie time and overall wait time. Or just follow the Maelstrom popularity.