Are all Disney resort perks fair?

[MrInfinity]

What rides can provide - if done well - is the psychological longterm benefit of your customers not getting a sense they they are being screwed.
Which comes at somepoint when the barrel goes over the waterfall.

You know, I just don't feel like I'm being screwed. I love to go to WDW, so I do. I love the rides there. They are awesome. My kids love them. We love the characters, the dining, the experience, and the vacation aspect of it all.

Nor do I feel like things are in a barrel heading for a falls, wherein if Disney doesn't change something they'll implode. Ppl have been preaching this for years. The previous generation did, as well as the one before that. "FP+ will kill Disney". "They don't care about the guest". "They are offending their most die hard customers". Blah blah. I really don't know anyone (outside this board) that goes to Disney and comes back thinking they hate it, there are not enough rides, etc. There are WAY more rides than one can do in a typical vacation time. And they're fresh, cuz we don't go every few months, it's just once every year or two.

If I went more often, it would not be as cool, admitted. For example if we went to SWW one year, and then again the next year, the second year would probly feel like a repeat of the previous one. So we mix it up. When we go in December, it will be all new again, cuz it will be the first time we've been to WDW around Christmas time.

Anyways, I just don't think most ppl share your view that the general customer is getting screwed. Ppl go there by the millions because it's awesome and they love it.

Now the Florida parks are like my dvr from Comcast...continually repackaged and given back out as "new"...even if broken.

Cute analogy. But I don't see the problem here. If you go in January and March, and in March the park feels repackaged from what you just saw in Jan, then you probly went too often. I feel that way about Six Flags. I just can't bring myself to go 5 times a summer like I could when I was a kid.

And certainly -- my kids do not feel like Disney is repetitive. They have an absolute blast.

I think you just need to rekindle what it's like to be a kid, go to Disney World, have fun, play, etc. Don't know what else to suggest. I guess you could gripe on a board about how there are not enough rides to amuse you...

 

[Luckybee]

They apparently do. It's $105 for the MK and right around $100 for the others!




KIDDING.

I had a crappy day with work today and Im not done yet. So I took a few minutes before returning some calls for a break and read this . Not to give too illustrative of a picture but Im now having to clean my desk because I laughed so hard when I read this I spit out my ice tea. Good one !!

 

[mom2rtk]

I had a crappy day with work today and Im not done yet. So I took a few minutes before returning some calls for a break and read this . Not to give too illustrative of a picture but Im now having to clean my desk because I laughed so hard when I read this I spit out my ice tea. Good one !!

Then it did what was intended!

Sorry about the desk though. And sorry about the crappy day at work.

 

[Astridia]

They apparently do. It's $105 for the MK and right around $100 for the others!


KIDDING.

This is the way I felt during most of our last visit at MK. IMO once you're finished with you FP+ rides, you have the choice of being a spectator, standing in a long kiosk line, or standing in a long SB line. Or you can shop for the ever popular snow globes! None of the above was our choice, and we left the park.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

If I went more often, it would not be as cool, admitted.

Anyways, I just don't think most ppl share your view that the general customer is getting screwed. Ppl go there by the millions because it's awesome and they love it.

I guess you could gripe on a board about how there are not enough rides to amuse you...

These are the important parts:

Point 1 - correct and the heart of the whole argument here is if the current philosophy is correct? Are they serving only a part of the audience?

Point 2 - no offense... But the parks are not "better" now when you consider all factors then what they were 10 years ago. People are drinking the sand. That is a matter of opinion - I concede. And I don't think anyone is getting screwed except in some areas of pricing...and I don't want that to expand. Pretty simple.

Point 3 - it was never about "rides"...it's about proportional investment, erosion of value, and longterm stagnation of the product.

 

[Planogirl]

Well whatever it is, I enjoy it less. I'm only one person but I see a disintegration in theming, food, overall attraction quality and access plus the prices for everything have skyrocketed. Why do I continue to go? Hope and also I love the Haunted Mansion (and a few other things).

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I know. That's a pretty slick deal for Disney. Charge "all access" pricing, but guests should not enter the parks with expectations of things they want to do there.

Honestly I can't fathom how anybody is ok with what you have pointed out...but we see it here constantly...

If you're gonna charge unyielding costs for everything...why should the customer base put up with the kind of rationing that has taken Effect...

There were always lines at Disney world...nobody expects it otherwise...but there was also an attempt by management to expand what's offered to mitigate the expanding crowds... Not repurposing or outright closure.

I can't convince anyone who honestly doesn't want to hear it...but the worm has turned under this regime. It's there.

 

[mom2rtk]

Well whatever it is, I enjoy it less. I'm only one person but I see a disintegration in theming, food, overall attraction quality and access plus the prices for everything have skyrocketed. Why do I continue to go? Hope and also I love the Haunted Mansion (and a few other things).

You really need to get to DLR and see what they do with Haunted Mansion Holiday. You would either hate it (because it takes away the classic HM experience) or love it (because it is so amazing). We aren't big Nightmare Before Christmas fans, but loved the attraction.

 

[Angel Ariel]

From what I've read here over the years, it isn't just people who go to wdw multiple times a year who have concerns about wdw.

 

[Angel Ariel]

You really need to get to DLR and see what they do with Haunted Mansion Holiday. You would either hate it (because it takes away the classic HM experience) or love it (because it is so amazing). We aren't big Nightmare Before Christmas fans, but loved the attraction.

We hace never watched NBC...not a huge time burton fan, tbh. Do we need to watch it to get full enjoyment out of HMH?

 

[mom2rtk]

We hace never watched NBC...not a huge time burton fan, tbh. Do we need to watch it to get full enjoyment out of HMH?

Not necessarily. But I think it does add something to see it. Like you I'm not a big Burton fan. But I do love the music from the film and that added another layer for me.

It's funny but my husband hadn't seen the movie and loved the attraction. He positively gushed about it...... had to go back 3 times.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Well whatever it is, I enjoy it less. I'm only one person but I see a disintegration in theming, food, overall attraction quality and access plus the prices for everything have skyrocketed. Why do I continue to go? Hope and also I love the Haunted Mansion (and a few other things).

You're completley wrong...

The prices haven't gone up... Disney just incredibly undervalued the whole thing since 1971...massively. It slipped through the entire defense grid...nobody could see it...like the da Vinci code.

All those magical memories were bought at a 50-75% discount and it's only reasonable that you pay them back until they have decided that the debt is paid...

When the forecast is 31 in hades.

 

[Planogirl]

You're completley wrong...

The prices haven't gone up... Disney just incredibly undervalued the whole thing since 1971...massively. It slipped through the entire defense grid...nobody code see it...like the da Vinci code.

All those magical memories were bought at a 50-75% discount and it's only reasonable that you pay them back until they have decided that the debt is paid...

When the forecast is 31 in hades.

I love it!

The debt will truly never be repaid. Too much else going that doesn't involve WDW's attractions.

 

[cakebaker]

You know, I just don't feel like I'm being screwed. I love to go to WDW, so I do. I love the rides there. They are awesome. My kids love them. We love the characters, the dining, the experience, and the vacation aspect of it all.

Nor do I feel like things are in a barrel heading for a falls, wherein if Disney doesn't change something they'll implode. Ppl have been preaching this for years. The previous generation did, as well as the one before that. "FP+ will kill Disney". "They don't care about the guest". "They are offending their most die hard customers". Blah blah. I really don't know anyone (outside this board) that goes to Disney and comes back thinking they hate it, there are not enough rides, etc. There are WAY more rides than one can do in a typical vacation time. And they're fresh, cuz we don't go every few months, it's just once every year or two.

If I went more often, it would not be as cool, admitted. For example if we went to SWW one year, and then again the next year, the second year would probly feel like a repeat of the previous one. So we mix it up. When we go in December, it will be all new again, cuz it will be the first time we've been to WDW around Christmas time.

Anyways, I just don't think most ppl share your view that the general customer is getting screwed. Ppl go there by the millions because it's awesome and they love it.

Same here...We just go and have a great time. All this talk of diminishing returns and proportional whatevers- the Disney "regime" lol- We just go and have a great time.

For those who think Disney is going down the drain- don't know what to say except I hope all the venting makes them feel better. I'm not one to worry about the "just you wait until" doomsday scenarios. Especially when I see no hard facts to indicate anything terrible is happening.

We're 40 days out from our next trip, just added another day last night and will get around to scheduling some fp+'s for it soon. We can't wait!

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I love it!

The debt will truly never be repaid. Too much else going that doesn't involve WDW's attractions.

I knew you would

 

[Angel Ariel]

Recognizing that Disney is taking a different approach to the parks now than it did under different leadership - and even disagreeing with that different approach - does not make one incapable of just going to the park and having a great time.

I don't know about anyone else, but I discuss a lot of different things here on the DIS. And I don't think twice about any of it while I'm in the parks enjoying my vacation. I come here to discuss Disney related things more in depth because people here love Disney as much as I do and want to talk and discuss as well. The majority of my family/friends IRL don't care about Disney in that way to want to talk about it like this. They enjoy it, but it's just another amusement park to them.

I think the state of Epcot and DHS is sad. That doesn't mean I don't still enjoy my time there. Thinking Epcot could be better than it is doesn't make Soarin' or Figment, or World Showcase less enjoyable.

Maybe I'm weird like this, I don't know...but I can have criticisms about certain things and yet still love them and enjoy them too. It doesn't have to be black and white.

 

[mom2rtk]

Recognizing that Disney is taking a different approach to the parks now than it did under different leadership - and even disagreeing with that different approach - does not make one incapable of just going to the park and having a great time.

I don't know about anyone else, but I discuss a lot of different things here on the DIS. And I don't think twice about any of it while I'm in the parks enjoying my vacation. I come here to discuss Disney related things more in depth because people here love Disney as much as I do and want to talk and discuss as well.

I think the state of Epcot and DHS is sad. That doesn't mean I don't still enjoy my time there. Thinking Epcot could be better than it is doesn't make Soarin' or Figment, or World Showcase less enjoyable.

Maybe I'm weird like this, I don't know...but I can have criticisms about certain things and yet still love them and enjoy them too. It doesn't have to be black and white.

Just quoting because it needs to be repeated.

 

[cakebaker]

Maybe I'm weird like this, I don't know...but I can have criticisms about certain things and yet still love them and enjoy them too. It doesn't have to be black and white.

I have things I'm critical of as well. Granted, not nearly as much as others, but they're there and I've posted about them before. But there are some people who you can take a look at their posting history and you will rarely, if ever, find them making mention of a single thing they like about Disney. One of course isn't required to like anything about WDW. I have family that I couldn't pay them to go- but then they don't spend their time on a Disney forum talking about all the things they hate about it.

 

[mom2rtk]

I have things I'm critical of as well. Granted, not nearly as much as others, but they're there and I've posted about them before. But there are some people who you can take a look at their posting history and you will rarely, if ever, find them making mention of a single thing they like about Disney. One of course isn't required to like anything about WDW. I have family that I couldn't pay them to go- but then they don't spend their time on a Disney forum talking about all the things they hate about it.

I actually don't know for sure because I don't spend time going through people's posting histories, but I'd venture to say that anyone who takes time to post on a Disney board loves something about it. I like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it's their love of Disney that brought them here in the first place.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I don't have the time to go through posting histories. As I said in our exchange earlier, I give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't think people who truly hate Disney bother spending their time on Disney message boards. I know a few people IRL who I'd say "hate" Disney, and they would never in a million years even come to this site, much less post here.