Anyone watching the SATC reboot? Major spoiler inside...

[AustinTink]

I'm not loving the podcast aspect of the reboot. The Che and Jackie (is that his name?) characters are not funny. Is the podcast supposed to be funny? It's serious low-brow humor.

 

[Kathryn Merteuil]

I am NOT loving Che either... If/When Miranda decides to go that direction, she could do a lot better.

 

[AustinTink]

I am NOT loving Che either... If/When Miranda decides to go that direction, she could do a lot better.

There is just something irritating about Sara Ramirez. One of the many reasons I stopped watching Grey's.

 

[DLgal]

And just like that…the peloton ad was pulled.

You might say ...they backpedaled.

 

[neverlandsky]

I don't think Miranda is an alcoholic. She left a 30+ year career, has a sexless marriage, pandemic drinking (I'm was so guilty of this), restarting back to school, and has an awful teenager & his girlfriend to deal with. Before all of that MIL needed care, husband cheated, raising a child, work busting her butt.

Just like how Samantha ate & shopped in excess so she wouldn't cheat on Smith while in working and living in LA. Samantha realized being in LA and being in a relationship isn't her. This is almost the same setup just now with Miranda drinking in excess.

 

[DLgal]

I don't think Miranda is an alcoholic. She left a 30+ year career, has a sexless marriage, pandemic drinking (I'm was so guilty of this), restarting back to school, and has an awful teenager & his girlfriend to deal with. Before all of that MIL needed care, husband cheated, raising a child, work busting her butt.

Just like how Samantha ate & shopped in excess so she wouldn't cheat on Smith while in working and living in LA. Samantha realized being in LA and being in a relationship isn't her. This is almost the same setup just now with Miranda drinking in excess.

Um, if she is relying on alcohol to get her through stressful things, she is an alcoholic.

 

[bcwife76]

This is a bit of a petty mention but I'm annoyed with the way they are playing with the ages of the kids. Brady is supposed to be 17 but he was born in 2001 which makes him 20. And Rose was born in 2009...the actress playing her looks older than 12

 

[AustinTink]

I've been following the Chris Noth thing. He's being dropped left and right from jobs and business deals. The latest is he was fired from The Equalizer. Looks like he won't work again.

It's crazy timing because the accusers said the reboot and all the buzz on social media about Big's death brought up feelings they had buried years ago. I bet Chris Noth wishes he never set foot in the SATC reboot.

Edited to add: I'm not sympathizing with him. Just remarking on the crazy timing of it all. If he did it, he's scum.

 

[Imzadi]

There is a Big scandal today in The Hollywood Reporter. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/chris-noth-accused-of-sexual-assault-1235063596/

It's crazy timing because the accusers said the reboot and all the buzz on social media about Big's death brought up feelings they had buried years ago. I bet Chris Noth wishes he never set foot in the SATC reboot.

Actually, if you read the Hollywood Reporter article again, you'll notice they've been sitting on the allegations, at least the first one, for a number of months now. Maybe they waited until they could find a second person to corroborate, but I suspect, once they found a second person, they STILL waited until AFTER the reboot aired to take down Noth AND the SATC reboot - for maximum impact for their reporting.

Chris Noth has been acting in stuff consistently for decades. He's done a gazillion episodes of almost all the Law & Order franchises and whatever else films in NYC, which isn't a lot. And news of a third movie, which turned into this reboot was been talked about for years. The reboot was being talked about for months as they were one of the few shows able to start filming in NYC as we got the pandemic here under control for a while. He also had the role in The Equalizer this year. So, I don't buy the story the women had been "triggered" due to the reboot coming out. He's been on TV all the time. The SATC reruns have been on all the time.

I think the timing was the Hollywood Reporter purposely torpedoing the reboot along with Noth. They could have released their "research" a couple weeks early. Allowing the show to be delayed and to re-write and re-shoot the first two episodes. But, they didn't want to help the show. They wanted what would have the most people clicking or referring back to their article.

As for Chris Noth sexually assaulting these women, I heard decades ago that Chris Noth was a "player" and unfaithful to his longtime girlfriend. One of the reasons he famously never married his girlfriend, until even years after their first son was born.

I now wonder if the words "player" and "womanizer" are euphemisms for "rapist" during an era when men used to get away with that kind of stuff, while others turned a blind eye to it, during a "boys will be boys," pre-"Me too" era? Many times I've heard those words used to describe men as being "players" or "womanizers," in real life or on the news, later they also turned out to be rapists.

If I heard Chris Noth described as a "player" decades ago, how did the Hollywood Reporter not know it only until recently? Nor the boss of the first alleged victim of the "high-profile firm where Noth and other celebrities regularly had business," not have heard that about him? Although, maybe this incident is what started the rumors, as this boss maybe quietly told many of the other celebrities at that firm.

A couple days ago, I saw a blurb on TV where Noth's allegations may cause problems for showing reruns of all the shows he's been on. Meaning: do they no longer show the episodes he was in? (The Cosby Show re-runs were yanked off several channels when his allegations came out.)

What does this mean for all the reruns of SATC? And the years and many of series of the Law & Order episodes he was in?

What about reruns of The Equalizer? It's in it's second season. There are no episodes he wasn't in. His part was small, but intrinsic. They issued a statement today stating that going forward, he will no longer appear in new episodes. But, he still is in some new episodes not yet aired.

And if the SATC reboot does reruns, do they not re-air the first two episodes?

 

[AustinTink]

I think the timing was the Hollywood Reporter purposely torpedoing the reboot along with Noth. They could have released their "research" a couple weeks early. Allowing the show to be delayed and to re-write and re-shoot the first two episodes. But, they didn't want to help the show. They wanted what would have the most people clicking or referring hack to their article.

That makes perfect sense.

 

[AustinTink]

As for Chris Noth sexually assaulting these women, I heard decades ago that Chris Noth was a "player" and unfaithful to his longtime girlfriend. One of the reasons he famously never married his girlfriend, until even years after their first son was born.

I now wonder if the words "player" and "womanizer" are euphemisms for "rapist" during an era when men used to get away with that kind of stuff, while others turned a blind eye to it, during a "boys will be boys," pre-"Me too" era? Many times I've heard those words used to describe men as being "players" or "womanizers," in real life or on the news, later they also turned out to be rapists.

If I heard Chris Noth described as a "player" decades ago, how did the Hollywood Reporter not know it only until recently? Nor the boss of the first alleged victim of the "high-profile firm where Noth and other celebrities regularly had business," not have heard that about him? Although, maybe this incident is what started the rumors, as this boss probably knew many of the other celebrities at that firm.

I'm watching The Morning Show right now on Apple TV. it's all about Me Too within the world of television and the boy's club, enablers, etc. One by one everyone who was complicit is getting picked off. I wonder if this controversy will be the end to this already shaky SATC reboot. One season and done. Surely the execs, producers, co-stars knew something.

The whole thing is making me sad because I've really been looking forward to SATC's return.

 

[Imzadi]

I'm watching The Morning Show right now on Apple TV. it's all about Me Too within the world of television and the boy's club, enablers, etc. One by one everyone who was complicit is getting picked off. I wonder if this controversy will be the end to this already shaky SATC reboot. One season and done. Surely the execs, producers, co-stars knew something.

I've been doing more reading up on this. This L.A. Times article reported that after the Hollywood Reporter article of accusations came out:

"The next day, actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones accused Noth of misconduct on the “Law & Order” set and said that he “capitalized on the fantasy that women believed Mr. Big represented.” By Friday night, the Daily Beast published allegations made by a 30-year-old tech executive who alleged that Noth forced himself on her in 2010 when she was 18." [. . .]​

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"Additionally, an old National Enquirer story about an ex-girlfriend, former supermodel Beverly Johnson, resurfaced on social media, dusting off 1995 court documents in which Johnson alleged that Noth “beat her” and made physical abuse and death threats after they dated. "​

On Monday night, Cynthia Nixon, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kristin Davis said in a joint statement posted to each of their Instagram Stories on Monday night:

The three actresses could have been more ambiguous in their statement, just saying they are saddened by the allegations and are awaiting the results of any investigations, signaling some support for Chris Noth. Instead, they made it pretty clear they stand behind all the alleged victims and I think, believe them. Makes me wonder if they hadn't heard rumors in the past and suspected they were true. The alleged victims finally coming forward solidified it for them.

 

[AustinTink]

I've been doing more reading up on this. This L.A. Times article reported that after the Hollywood Reporter article of accusations came out:

"The next day, actress and director Zoe Lister-Jones accused Noth of misconduct on the “Law & Order” set and said that he “capitalized on the fantasy that women believed Mr. Big represented.” By Friday night, the Daily Beast published allegations made by a 30-year-old tech executive who alleged that Noth forced himself on her in 2010 when she was 18." [. . .]​

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"Additionally, an old National Enquirer story about an ex-girlfriend, former supermodel Beverly Johnson, resurfaced on social media, dusting off 1995 court documents in which Johnson alleged that Noth “beat her” and made physical abuse and death threats after they dated. "​

On Monday night, Cynthia Nixon, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kristin Davis said in a joint statement posted to each of their Instagram Stories on Monday night:

The three actresses could have been more ambiguous in their statement, just saying they are saddened by the allegations and are awaiting the results of any investigations, signaling some support for Chris Noth. Instead, they made it pretty clear they stand behind all the alleged victims and I think, believe them. Makes me wonder if they hadn't heard rumors in the past and suspected they were true. The alleged victims finally coming forward solidified it for them.

Maybe why they wanted to write Big off the reboot from day one. They probably already knew the truth was about to emerge.

 

[Imzadi]

Maybe why they wanted to write Big off the reboot from day one. They probably already knew the truth was about to emerge.

They could have been holding their breaths when the Me Too movement came about and were wondering back then if/when Noth would be named. When a third movie was in the works, there were rumors Big might not be in it. I wonder if that was around the same time period?

 

[anniemae]

Maybe why they wanted to write Big off the reboot from day one. They probably already knew the truth was about to emerge.

This is what I think. I think they knew this was coming. This is probably why they killed him off quickly. Kind of makes sense now.

 

[anniemae]

Just saw the next episode. I think they are going to have Carrie have a relationship with the older guy at the podcast studio. He kind of looks like George Clooney. Every time they show him he is laughing at something Carrie said or smiling at her. They may start out as friends, but I think it will turn into more IF there are more seasons.

They also explain Stanfords absence. I think it was a good way to handle it. I will miss his character, always was such a bright spot and funny flair.

 

[AustinTink]

Just saw the next episode. I think they are going to have Carrie have a relationship with the older guy at the podcast studio. He kind of looks like George Clooney. Every time they show him he is laughing at something Carrie said or smiling at her. They may start out as friends, but I think it will turn into more IF there are more seasons.

They also explain Stanfords absence. I think it was a good way to handle it. I will miss his character, always was such a bright spot and funny flair.

I didn't even catch that about the guy at the podcast studio. He's a cutie.

 

[Imzadi]

A fifth woman has now come forward with allegations against Chris Noth. It's Lisa Gentile, a country-pop singer and songwriter. She has Gloria Allred as her lawyer. I knew it was not going to take long for Allred to get in on this. (I'm only being snarky about Allred joining in, not the allegation.)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...sa-gentile-accuser-sexual-assault-1235067066/

 

[AustinTink]

A fifth woman has now come forward with allegations against Chris Noth. It's Lisa Gentile, a country-pop singer and songwriter. She has Gloria Allred as her lawyer. I knew it was not going to take long for Allred to get in on this. (I'm only being snarky about Allred joining in, not the allegation.)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...sa-gentile-accuser-sexual-assault-1235067066/

Yikes. This won't be the last one, I'm sure. This guy was busy.

 

[neverlandsky]

Definitely related to this past episode. Realtor got a stager for our home and erased us too. I feel ya Carrie. We left for 4 days and didn't stay there.
Stanford left to Japan and wants a divorce from Anthony RIP Willie Garson. We'll definitely miss you and thanks for the laughs and the memories!

Over the years it does seem that Anthony has gotten closer to Carrie and moved away from Charlotte. It's an easier transition and makes sense of course with Charlotte navigating her family. Anthony & Carrie can help comfort and guide each other with their new chapter since they do say divorce is like experiencing a death. So him & her have that in common. And Just Like That, life moves on.