Anyone Watching the Netflix Docuseries: You Are What You Eat (Twins Study)

[Christine]

@Christine I think we're maybe saying the same thing. (maybe, I'm not sure maybe not) I'm saying a clean all meat diet can be better than a vegetarian diet if the veggie diet includes a bunch of crap.

For instance, a grass fed/finished burger is "better" than a beyond/impossible burger. I guess that could depend on what metric used to measure, but if you look at the ingredient list for those fake meat products, its a ton of chemicals & other non food things. A veggie/vegan that eats a ton of crap isn't going to be as healthy as someone eating just clean & real animal based food. (meat, fish, eggs, dairy) Also depending on the person I guess.

I would like to see a study of 22 (or 50+) sets of Twins, full carnivore vs full veggie/vegan diet, (do they use twins to make it more of a level playing field, over two random strangers?)

Yes we are saying the same thing. In fact, upthread (I think it was this thread) I said that I doubt I'd ever switch over to the meat alternatives because I think they are too processed.

I haven't yet dug into the full study results of the 22 sets of twins but I'm going to if I can get my hands on it. The series gave specific results of those that were chosen to be the "stars" of the series, but in the end, all the twins were brought in and given their results. Plus at the end, they did discuss the results of all of them in a more holistic fashion.

They used identical twins so that they could have a starting point of identical DNA (nature) and then use all the variables of diet to see how the body is impacted by the different diets. It controls for the variable of different genetic tendencies that are exerted. For instance, you and I wouldn't be able to be compared because you may just have a genetic tendency to have more cholesterol than I do, even given the same diet. But they controlled for that as best they could with identical twins.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Yes we are saying the same thing. In fact, upthread (I think it was this thread) I said that I doubt I'd ever switch over to the meat alternatives because I think they are too processed.

I haven't yet dug into the full study results of the 22 sets of twins but I'm going to if I can get my hands on it. The series gave specific results of those that were chosen to be the "stars" of the series, but in the end, all the twins were brought in and given their results. Plus at the end, they did discuss the results of all of them in a more holistic fashion.

They used identical twins so that they could have a starting point of identical DNA (nature) and then use all the variables of diet to see how the body is impacted by the different diets. It controls for the variable of different genetic tendencies that are exerted. For instance, you and I wouldn't be able to be compared because you may just have a genetic tendency to have more cholesterol than I do, even given the same diet. But they controlled for that as best they could with identical twins.

Here’s the study:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2812392?resultClick=3