Q: How can you tell a timeshare salesman is lying?
Yeah, sadly I fell for it - hook, line and sinker... maybe I was looking for excuses to fall for it?
We ended up buying a small 50 point add-on contract for BLT. For the "cruise special" they were selling BLT at $130 a point, with an $8/point discount (so we got them for $122) and they gave us back dated points from our 2011 UY w/o paying maint fees on those and they waived the banking deadlines on those so we could go ahead and bank those points. We also received 18 universal fastpasses. He said that they were projecting BLT was going to sell out in 6 months (again, who knows if this is true.) We put it on our Disney premier visa, so we got double reward points and 0% financing for 6 months. We'll have it paid off by then.
On the ship, they were doing the big push to sell AKV points. They were giving deep discounts on larger contracts. They never even mentioned BLT at all - we already own 160 points there, and had rented them out a couple of times, so I was interested in getting more BLT because of the ease of use, and/or rental. I had to ask about BLT after making the appointment.
He said that VGC sold out in "record time" and it was the fastest selling DVC property. He said Aulani is going "very, very well" with most of the people buying those points are from the west coast. My take is that they are pushing Aulani on the Alaskan and Mex riviera cruises. They weren't even trying to sell Aulani on the ship - I'm sure they would have sold it, but it wasn't the focus, and he flat out told me that he wasn't pushing it for anyone who lives on the East coast. AKV was the focus. They were also tieing it in with RCI and highlighting RCI properties and the "value" of using DVC points for RCI exchange. I suppose this was their attempt to take a swipe at the resale market. At any rate, I'm thinking they still have a ton of oustanding AKV inventory, and they need to clear this before announcing Grand Floridian.
My thought is that when they announce GF, it will likely start around $150/point. I totally see Poly whenever it comes being close to $180 or $200 a point. I told him that there were "rumors" about Poly DVC and I asked him when it is coming. His response: "Well, you seem to be fairly savvy to the word out there. If those rumors are true, the sky is the limit."
So, in other words - he didn't deny Poly DVC.
Yeah, sadly I fell for it - hook, line and sinker... maybe I was looking for excuses to fall for it?
We ended up buying a small 50 point add-on contract for BLT. For the "cruise special" they were selling BLT at $130 a point, with an $8/point discount (so we got them for $122) and they gave us back dated points from our 2011 UY w/o paying maint fees on those and they waived the banking deadlines on those so we could go ahead and bank those points. We also received 18 universal fastpasses. He said that they were projecting BLT was going to sell out in 6 months (again, who knows if this is true.) We put it on our Disney premier visa, so we got double reward points and 0% financing for 6 months. We'll have it paid off by then.
When you get into situations with smaller contracts such as this, the resale closing costs add a significant percentage increase to the purchase price. Combine this with the inherent higher pricing of smaller contracts and the gap between direct and resale is narrowed significantly. I still don't have a great impression of your salesperson based on what you have said here on the DIS, but unlike timeshare salespeople, numbers don't lie. All in all, you paid a small premium for the convenience of buying direct...no big deal. Plus, in my book, those 18 Fastpasses have a significant value.
Congrats on your purchase.
Just sent to ROFR today SSR 200 points DEC UY.
Price was $50/point + closing ($680), seller paid MF, comes with 198 2010 points that expire Nov, 2012, 200 2011 points that are banked into 2012 UY and 200 2012 points.
Special thanks to AllieV for letting me know about this listing.
Here are the details:
I thought we might actually lose it since the effective date had already passed, but they eventually signed it. Turns out the buyer doesn't have an email address. Seriously??? 
So, please add me back into the waiting for ROFR insanity.
VWL, 130 points, Aug UY; 260 points on 8/12 (130 2012 points and 130 2011 banked points that expire 7/13) and 130 current points (2010 banked points that expire 7/12 (which we probably won't be able to use before we close))
$55 per point, buyer pays closing and MF.
Wish me luck!
So, please add me back into the waiting for ROFR insanity.
VWL, 130 points, Aug UY; 260 points on 8/12 (130 2012 points and 130 2011 banked points that expire 7/13) and 130 current points (2010 banked points that expire 7/12 (which we probably won't be able to use before we close))
$55 per point, buyer pays closing and MF.
Wish me luck!
So, please add me back into the waiting for ROFR insanity.
VWL, 130 points, Aug UY; 260 points on 8/12 (130 2012 points and 130 2011 banked points that expire 7/13) and 130 current points (2010 banked points that expire 7/12 (which we probably won't be able to use before we close))
$55 per point, buyer pays closing and MF.
Wish me luck!
Sigh.
100 BCV DEC $60 pp buyer pays closing seller pays mf. All 2010, 2011, 2012 points.
Submitted 5/23, ROFR exercised 6/4.
Maybe price does have something to do with it.
That would have been a great deal.
Sorry to hear that
How did you find out? Did they send an email? My contract went in a few days before yours and I still haven't heard anything. Maybe that's a good sign?
Sigh.
100 BCV DEC $60 pp buyer pays closing seller pays mf. All 2010, 2011, 2012 points.
Submitted 5/23, ROFR exercised 6/4.
Maybe price does have something to do with it.
