Anyone made it through (or not made it through) ROFR recently? - Section I

[senecabeach]

Great News...

"CONGRATULATIONS to ALL"



PASSED:
DisneyRose - 150 VWL (Sep) $80 all '04 '05 (Sub 2/14, pass 3/1)
Cinderpals - 200 BWV (Oct) $77 all '04 & '05 (Sub 2/11, pass 3/3)
rdcoffee - 350 BCV $83, all '05 (sub 2/17, pass 3/8)
Colorado Belle - 170 BWV $80.5 all '04 '05 (seller pays all '05 MF) (sub 2/18, pass 3/8)
LauraLea - 90 BWV (Oct) $76 147 04, all 05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/8)
monami7 - 50 HH (Mar) $75, all '05 (sub 2/25, pass 3/8)
travelin' tigger - 50 OKW (Oct.) $78/pt. No '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Greg K. - 160 BWV (Mar) $80 all '04 banked into '05
jnrrt - 175 BWV (Jun) $78 51 '04 and all '05 (sub 2/23, pass 3/10)
DizWacko - 120 BCV (Dec) $84 75 '04, all '05 (sub 2/26, pass3/10)
JimMIA - 310 OKW (Oct) $73, 149 '04, all '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Amyup - 100 SSR (Dec) $80 all '04 and '05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
RWinNola - 150 BWV (Mar) $78 all '05 (sub 2/28, pass 3/14)
rtobe - 150 BWV $78 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
Beca - 220 BCV (Aug) $83 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
Magicalfun - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
roadtripper - 100 OKW (Jun) $76 20 '04, all '05 (sub 3/2, pass 3/21)
bluedoggy - 100 OKW (Mar) $75 all '05 '06 (sub 3/15, pass 3/30)
magicalmcwho - 150 BCV (Aug) $88 40 banked 04 and all 05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/30)
lsl - 100 SSR (Aug), $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, pass 3/30)
wdwhereicome - 30 OKW (Feb) $80 15 '05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/31)
Beca (seller) - 210 BWV (Sept) $69 60 '05 (sub 3/1, pass 4/1)
champagne27 - 200 BWV $78, 188 37 '04, all '05 (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
KANSAS - 200 BWV(Aug) $78 all '04 & '05 (sub appx 3/12, pass 4/4)
AnnMorin (seller) - 190 VB (Dec) $58.42 13 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/4)
Oz-Ma - 100 BCV (Oct) $85 04 and 05 points (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
justjudy - 230 OKW (Jun) $79 209 banked '04, all '05 (don't know dates)
Northern Lights - 160 BCV (aug), $85, 42 banked '04, all '05 (sub 3/10, pass 4/8)
Beca - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50, 2 '05 points, (sub 3/25, pass 4/8)
dizhoni - 100 OKW (Jun) $74 all 05 (sub 3/21,pass 4/7)
soxfans45 - 200 BWV (Jun) $80 67 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/11)
Scratch42 - 200 BCV (Dec) $82....THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!
supernurse99 - 190 OKW (Aug) $73 3 '04 banked, all '05 (sub 4/2,pass 4/19)
winniedapooh - 52 OKW (Aug) $76 (52 for both 2003/04 banked=104 use by 8/1/05) (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
NJOYURLIFE - 50 OKW (Oct) $75 38 '03 (banked) (sub 4/6), pass 4/22
DVCforMe - 150 VWL (Dec) $78 31 '03 (banked) all '04 (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
keishashadow - 58 VWL (Oct) $82 all '04 (banked) all '05 (sub 4/4 pass 4/22)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Jun) $78 47 banked, all 05 (sub 04/01 pass 4/22)
aussiemickeys - 150 SSR (Feb) $83 all '05 (sub 3/16, pass 4/22)
disneymiss - 100 VWL (Dec) $79, all '04 (banked), all '05 (sub 4/4, pass 4/22)
mommary - 300 VWL (Dec) $80 289 '04 (banked), all '05 (pass 4/22)
wbcincy - 155 BWV(Feb) $79 all '05 points (sub appx 3/30, pass 2/25)
depilot - 240 BCV(Feb) $79.17 (pass appx. 4/14)
MaryAnnBaum - 400 SSR (Dec) $84 (all '03) all '04 banked to '05 (sub 4/14, pass 5/9)
utahkennedys - 25 OKW (Feb) $78 10 banked, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/9)
isyt - 400 VWL (Aug) $78 400 banked (sub 4/20,pass 5/9)
Mgrebenc - 150 HH (Oct) $72 no banked all '05 (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
JeanJoe - 150 BWV (Jun) $78 all '05 Seller pays closing (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
jelloatdisney - 150 BCV $85 all 04 banked plus all '05 (sub 4/20, pass 5/9)
JoeEpcotRocks - 100 BWV (Apr) $80all '05 (sub 5/4, pass 5/11)
Joni - 300 OKW $75 (sub 5/1, pass5/12)
tamar - 150 OKW (Dec) $76 52 banked '03, all '04 & '05 (pass 5/11)
Sugahbaby - 300 BCV $83 200 banked '04, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/13)
Poorman(seller) - 500 BWV (Dec) $77 37 '04, all '05 (pass 5/13)
JeanJoe - 100 BWV (Sep) $80 9 banked '03, 100 banked '04, all '05, (sub 5/2, pass 5/13)
beagle744 - 150 VWL (Dec) $79 4 '03, all '04 &'05 (sub 4/25, pass 5/13)
awatt - 150 BWV (Apr) $78 no closing costs submitted 4/12 (sub 4/12, pass 5/13)
iwannabeinwdw - 213 SSR (Mar) $79, all '05 (sub 4/21?, pass5/13)
tarpat1 - 150 VB (Feb) $67 (sub 5/2, pass 5/15)
Simba's Mom - 210 OKW (Aug) $78 all '05 (sub 5/2, pass 5/25)
bavaria - 50 OKW (Feb) $78 all '05 (sub 5/6)
DVCconvert - 50 BWV (Oct) $83 no points 'till 06 (sub 5/12)
stingmom-50 OKW (Feb) $78, (sub 5/6)

ROFR'D:
Diszip - 150 VWL (Aug) $75 all '05 + 8 '04 (ROFR'd on 1/20)
Kimber - 50 BCV $73 3 points coming in '05
Donald..really - 200 VWL $75
Mcorbo - 150 VWL $75 103 coming 04/05 (sub.1/07, ROFR 1/26)
disneydawn6 - 170 BCV $78 111 points June 2005 (on 1/26)
Scotch- 2) 150 OKW(Mar) $65 15pts. remaining in '05 (sub. 1/10, rofr 1/26)
(source KANSAS) - 150 BCV(Aug) $77 no points til '06, BUYER pay all closings cost, escow serivce, title insurance,etc+ $200 Disney Transfer fee, OC/$20/ROFR FEE
Greenban - 270 VWL (Aug) $76 all '03, '04 & '05 intact
kepps73 - BWV $77 ROFR'd 1/31(sorry, don't know anymore than that right now)
kelakash - 250 VWL $74 '04 &'05 (sub. appx. 1/03, ROFR'd on 1/31)
disgirl - 50 BCV $78 (Apr) no points 'til '06 (sub1/24, ROFR'd 2/10)
Scott H - 150 HH $69 no points till '06 (sub. appx. 1/19, ROFR'd 2/18)
soxfans45 - 180 BWV $78 (Apr) 163 '05 (sub, 2/28, ROFR'd 3/21)
colmenares - 100 BWV (Jun) $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/6)
Lauralea - 150 VWL (Dec) $70 5 '04, 13 '05 pts (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/13)
Lauralea - 150 BWV, (June) $70 '04, 05, ( sub 3/24, ROFR'd 4/18)
Mgrebenc - 230 OKW, (Sept) $70 all '05 (ROFR'd 4/18)
JoeEpcotRocks - 150 BWV(Feb) $76 no points 'til '06 (sub 3/30 ROFR'd 4/22)
SpoonfulofSugar - 150 BCV (Feb) $77 (submitted 4/8, ROFR'd 4/28)
timmykayla - 210 BWV (Apr) $77 no points 'till '06 (sub 4/15, ROFR'd 5/4)
DVCconvert - 100 BWV (Sep) $72 36 borrowed (exp 8/31), no '05 (ROFR'd 5/19)

WAITING:
tigger002 - 150 BCV (Oct) $85 120 '04 (banked), all '05. Buyer pays MN on banked and current points, and $200 transfer fee. Seller pays closing costs.

disfountainofyouth - 150HH (Aug) $66 no points til '06 (sub 5/10)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Dec) $81 all 04 banked, all 05 (sub 5/16)
DVCconvert - BWV 230 (Sept) $77 19 '05 (sub 5/19)
mickey's bud - 210 BWV (Feb) $80 147 banked, 160 on hold (must be used by 2/06) (sub 5/18)
andriade - 230 OKW (Apr) $76 29 banked '04 all '05. seller is paying all closing cost. (sub appx 5/16)
jiggerj - 230 OKW (Sept)$75 84 banked '04 all '05 (sub 5/18)
Colmenares3 - 80 BWV 76 banked (sub 5/24)
goldilocks 63 - 110 BCV (Oct) $83 all coming 10/06 (sub 5/27)

 

[stingmom]

Hey, how come you got the extra speedy service?! I submitted mine a week earlier...

Sigh, must be because you are a heavy hitter with all those points!

Congratulations, everyone, that list of 'waiting' must be getting pretty short - until we all decide to take the plunge again!

They may have paid for the "expedited" service. We opted not to use that (extra fee) since we aren't on a tight schedule. We already have ressies that are paid for, so hey, now we got even more points to use!!

 

[DVCconvert]

They may have paid for the "expedited" service.

For the record...no, I didn't buy that service.

But I certainly hope that Bavaria's offer gets accepted pronto!!

 

[stingmom]

For the record...no, I didn't buy that service.

But I certainly hope that Bavaria's offer gets accepted pronto!!

WOW DVConvert!! That was VERY fast for you!! CONGRATS!! bavaria's passed today with mine! Yippee!!!

 

[mouseclick1]

Our contract was just submitted to Disney. Here are the specifics: 100 HH pts. March use year. No points until '06. $68 per point, seller pays closing cost.

Thanks for doing this; it is really helpful!

 

[senecabeach]

Welcome..... Mouseclick1!!

PASSED:
DisneyRose - 150 VWL (Sep) $80 all '04 '05 (Sub 2/14, pass 3/1)
Cinderpals - 200 BWV (Oct) $77 all '04 & '05 (Sub 2/11, pass 3/3)
rdcoffee - 350 BCV $83, all '05 (sub 2/17, pass 3/8)
Colorado Belle - 170 BWV $80.5 all '04 '05 (seller pays all '05 MF) (sub 2/18, pass 3/8)
LauraLea - 90 BWV (Oct) $76 147 04, all 05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/8)
monami7 - 50 HH (Mar) $75, all '05 (sub 2/25, pass 3/8)
travelin' tigger - 50 OKW (Oct.) $78/pt. No '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Greg K. - 160 BWV (Mar) $80 all '04 banked into '05
jnrrt - 175 BWV (Jun) $78 51 '04 and all '05 (sub 2/23, pass 3/10)
DizWacko - 120 BCV (Dec) $84 75 '04, all '05 (sub 2/26, pass3/10)
JimMIA - 310 OKW (Oct) $73, 149 '04, all '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Amyup - 100 SSR (Dec) $80 all '04 and '05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
RWinNola - 150 BWV (Mar) $78 all '05 (sub 2/28, pass 3/14)
rtobe - 150 BWV $78 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
Beca - 220 BCV (Aug) $83 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
Magicalfun - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
roadtripper - 100 OKW (Jun) $76 20 '04, all '05 (sub 3/2, pass 3/21)
bluedoggy - 100 OKW (Mar) $75 all '05 '06 (sub 3/15, pass 3/30)
magicalmcwho - 150 BCV (Aug) $88 40 banked 04 and all 05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/30)
lsl - 100 SSR (Aug), $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, pass 3/30)
wdwhereicome - 30 OKW (Feb) $80 15 '05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/31)
Beca (seller) - 210 BWV (Sept) $69 60 '05 (sub 3/1, pass 4/1)
champagne27 - 200 BWV $78, 188 37 '04, all '05 (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
KANSAS - 200 BWV(Aug) $78 all '04 & '05 (sub appx 3/12, pass 4/4)
AnnMorin (seller) - 190 VB (Dec) $58.42 13 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/4)
Oz-Ma - 100 BCV (Oct) $85 04 and 05 points (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
justjudy - 230 OKW (Jun) $79 209 banked '04, all '05 (don't know dates)
Northern Lights - 160 BCV (aug), $85, 42 banked '04, all '05 (sub 3/10, pass 4/8)
Beca - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50, 2 '05 points, (sub 3/25, pass 4/8)
dizhoni - 100 OKW (Jun) $74 all 05 (sub 3/21,pass 4/7)
soxfans45 - 200 BWV (Jun) $80 67 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/11)
Scratch42 - 200 BCV (Dec) $82....THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!
supernurse99 - 190 OKW (Aug) $73 3 '04 banked, all '05 (sub 4/2,pass 4/19)
winniedapooh - 52 OKW (Aug) $76 (52 for both 2003/04 banked=104 use by 8/1/05) (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
NJOYURLIFE - 50 OKW (Oct) $75 38 '03 (banked) (sub 4/6), pass 4/22
DVCforMe - 150 VWL (Dec) $78 31 '03 (banked) all '04 (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
keishashadow - 58 VWL (Oct) $82 all '04 (banked) all '05 (sub 4/4 pass 4/22)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Jun) $78 47 banked, all 05 (sub 04/01 pass 4/22)
aussiemickeys - 150 SSR (Feb) $83 all '05 (sub 3/16, pass 4/22)
disneymiss - 100 VWL (Dec) $79, all '04 (banked), all '05 (sub 4/4, pass 4/22)
mommary - 300 VWL (Dec) $80 289 '04 (banked), all '05 (pass 4/22)
wbcincy - 155 BWV(Feb) $79 all '05 points (sub appx 3/30, pass 2/25)
depilot - 240 BCV(Feb) $79.17 (pass appx. 4/14)
MaryAnnBaum - 400 SSR (Dec) $84 (all '03) all '04 banked to '05 (sub 4/14, pass 5/9)
utahkennedys - 25 OKW (Feb) $78 10 banked, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/9)
isyt - 400 VWL (Aug) $78 400 banked (sub 4/20,pass 5/9)
Mgrebenc - 150 HH (Oct) $72 no banked all '05 (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
JeanJoe - 150 BWV (Jun) $78 all '05 Seller pays closing (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
jelloatdisney - 150 BCV $85 all 04 banked plus all '05 (sub 4/20, pass 5/9)
JoeEpcotRocks - 100 BWV (Apr) $80all '05 (sub 5/4, pass 5/11)
Joni - 300 OKW $75 (sub 5/1, pass5/12)
tamar - 150 OKW (Dec) $76 52 banked '03, all '04 & '05 (pass 5/11)
Sugahbaby - 300 BCV $83 200 banked '04, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/13)
Poorman(seller) - 500 BWV (Dec) $77 37 '04, all '05 (pass 5/13)
JeanJoe - 100 BWV (Sep) $80 9 banked '03, 100 banked '04, all '05, (sub 5/2, pass 5/13)
beagle744 - 150 VWL (Dec) $79 4 '03, all '04 &'05 (sub 4/25, pass 5/13)
awatt - 150 BWV (Apr) $78 no closing costs submitted 4/12 (sub 4/12, pass 5/13)
iwannabeinwdw - 213 SSR (Mar) $79, all '05 (sub 4/21?, pass5/13)
tarpat1 - 150 VB (Feb) $67 (sub 5/2, pass 5/15)
Simba's Mom - 210 OKW (Aug) $78 all '05 (sub 5/2, pass 5/25)
bavaria - 50 OKW (Feb) $78 all '05 (sub 5/6)
DVCconvert - 50 BWV (Oct) $83 no points 'till 06 (sub 5/12)
stingmom-50 OKW (Feb) $78, (sub 5/6)

ROFR'D:
Diszip - 150 VWL (Aug) $75 all '05 + 8 '04 (ROFR'd on 1/20)
Kimber - 50 BCV $73 3 points coming in '05
Donald..really - 200 VWL $75
Mcorbo - 150 VWL $75 103 coming 04/05 (sub.1/07, ROFR 1/26)
disneydawn6 - 170 BCV $78 111 points June 2005 (on 1/26)
Scotch- 2) 150 OKW(Mar) $65 15pts. remaining in '05 (sub. 1/10, rofr 1/26)
(source KANSAS) - 150 BCV(Aug) $77 no points til '06, BUYER pay all closings cost, escow serivce, title insurance,etc+ $200 Disney Transfer fee, OC/$20/ROFR FEE
Greenban - 270 VWL (Aug) $76 all '03, '04 & '05 intact
kepps73 - BWV $77 ROFR'd 1/31(sorry, don't know anymore than that right now)
kelakash - 250 VWL $74 '04 &'05 (sub. appx. 1/03, ROFR'd on 1/31)
disgirl - 50 BCV $78 (Apr) no points 'til '06 (sub1/24, ROFR'd 2/10)
Scott H - 150 HH $69 no points till '06 (sub. appx. 1/19, ROFR'd 2/18)
soxfans45 - 180 BWV $78 (Apr) 163 '05 (sub, 2/28, ROFR'd 3/21)
colmenares - 100 BWV (Jun) $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/6)
Lauralea - 150 VWL (Dec) $70 5 '04, 13 '05 pts (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/13)
Lauralea - 150 BWV, (June) $70 '04, 05, ( sub 3/24, ROFR'd 4/18)
Mgrebenc - 230 OKW, (Sept) $70 all '05 (ROFR'd 4/18)
JoeEpcotRocks - 150 BWV(Feb) $76 no points 'til '06 (sub 3/30 ROFR'd 4/22)
SpoonfulofSugar - 150 BCV (Feb) $77 (submitted 4/8, ROFR'd 4/28)
timmykayla - 210 BWV (Apr) $77 no points 'till '06 (sub 4/15, ROFR'd 5/4)
DVCconvert - 100 BWV (Sep) $72 36 borrowed (exp 8/31), no '05 (ROFR'd 5/19)

WAITING:
tigger002 - 150 BCV (Oct) $85 120 '04 (banked), all '05. Buyer pays MN on banked and current points, and $200 transfer fee. Seller pays closing costs.

disfountainofyouth - 150HH (Aug) $66 no points til '06 (sub 5/10)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Dec) $81 all 04 banked, all 05 (sub 5/16)
DVCconvert - BWV 230 (Sept) $77 19 '05 (sub 5/19)
mickey's bud - 210 BWV (Feb) $80 147 banked, 160 on hold (must be used by 2/06) (sub 5/18)
andriade - 230 OKW (Apr) $76 29 banked '04 all '05. seller is paying all closing cost. (sub appx 5/16)
jiggerj - 230 OKW (Sept)$75 84 banked '04 all '05 (sub 5/18)
Colmenares3 - 80 BWV 76 banked (sub 5/24)
goldilocks 63 - 110 BCV (Oct) $83 all coming 10/06 (sub 5/27)
mouseclick1 - 100 HH (Mar) $68 no pts. till '06 - seller pays closing cost.

 

[stingmom]

 

[auntsue]

Waiting: 350 points @ BWV, $76, no points until 06/06 - submitted 5/12

 

[Beca]

Hi everyone!!! I am back!! Thanks senecabeach for ONCE AGAIN keeping up with this thread for me!!!

Here's the update:

PASSED:
DisneyRose - 150 VWL (Sep) $80 all '04 '05 (Sub 2/14, pass 3/1)
Cinderpals - 200 BWV (Oct) $77 all '04 & '05 (Sub 2/11, pass 3/3)
rdcoffee - 350 BCV $83, all '05 (sub 2/17, pass 3/8)
Colorado Belle - 170 BWV $80.5 all '04 '05 (seller pays all '05 MF) (sub 2/18, pass 3/8)
LauraLea - 90 BWV (Oct) $76 147 04, all 05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/8)
monami7 - 50 HH (Mar) $75, all '05 (sub 2/25, pass 3/8)
travelin' tigger - 50 OKW (Oct.) $78/pt. No '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Greg K. - 160 BWV (Mar) $80 all '04 banked into '05
jnrrt - 175 BWV (Jun) $78 51 '04 and all '05 (sub 2/23, pass 3/10)
DizWacko - 120 BCV (Dec) $84 75 '04, all '05 (sub 2/26, pass3/10)
JimMIA - 310 OKW (Oct) $73, 149 '04, all '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Amyup - 100 SSR (Dec) $80 all '04 and '05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
RWinNola - 150 BWV (Mar) $78 all '05 (sub 2/28, pass 3/14)
rtobe - 150 BWV $78 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
Beca - 220 BCV (Aug) $83 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
Magicalfun - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
roadtripper - 100 OKW (Jun) $76 20 '04, all '05 (sub 3/2, pass 3/21)
bluedoggy - 100 OKW (Mar) $75 all '05 '06 (sub 3/15, pass 3/30)
magicalmcwho - 150 BCV (Aug) $88 40 banked 04 and all 05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/30)
lsl - 100 SSR (Aug), $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, pass 3/30)
wdwhereicome - 30 OKW (Feb) $80 15 '05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/31)
Beca (seller) - 210 BWV (Sept) $69 60 '05 (sub 3/1, pass 4/1)
champagne27 - 200 BWV $78, 188 37 '04, all '05 (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
KANSAS - 200 BWV(Aug) $78 all '04 & '05 (sub appx 3/12, pass 4/4)
AnnMorin (seller) - 190 VB (Dec) $58.42 13 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/4)
Oz-Ma - 100 BCV (Oct) $85 04 and 05 points (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
justjudy - 230 OKW (Jun) $79 209 banked '04, all '05 (don't know dates)
Northern Lights - 160 BCV (aug), $85, 42 banked '04, all '05 (sub 3/10, pass 4/8)
Beca - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50, 2 '05 points, (sub 3/25, pass 4/8)
dizhoni - 100 OKW (Jun) $74 all 05 (sub 3/21,pass 4/7)
soxfans45 - 200 BWV (Jun) $80 67 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/11)
Scratch42 - 200 BCV (Dec) $82....THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!
supernurse99 - 190 OKW (Aug) $73 3 '04 banked, all '05 (sub 4/2,pass 4/19)
winniedapooh - 52 OKW (Aug) $76 (52 for both 2003/04 banked=104 use by 8/1/05) (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
NJOYURLIFE - 50 OKW (Oct) $75 38 '03 (banked) (sub 4/6), pass 4/22
DVCforMe - 150 VWL (Dec) $78 31 '03 (banked) all '04 (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
keishashadow - 58 VWL (Oct) $82 all '04 (banked) all '05 (sub 4/4 pass 4/22)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Jun) $78 47 banked, all 05 (sub 04/01 pass 4/22)
aussiemickeys - 150 SSR (Feb) $83 all '05 (sub 3/16, pass 4/22)
disneymiss - 100 VWL (Dec) $79, all '04 (banked), all '05 (sub 4/4, pass 4/22)
mommary - 300 VWL (Dec) $80 289 '04 (banked), all '05 (pass 4/22)
wbcincy - 155 BWV(Feb) $79 all '05 points (sub appx 3/30, pass 2/25)
depilot - 240 BCV(Feb) $79.17 (pass appx. 4/14)
MaryAnnBaum - 400 SSR (Dec) $84 (all '03) all '04 banked to '05 (sub 4/14, pass 5/9)
utahkennedys - 25 OKW (Feb) $78 10 banked, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/9)
isyt - 400 VWL (Aug) $78 400 banked (sub 4/20,pass 5/9)
Mgrebenc - 150 HH (Oct) $72 no banked all '05 (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
JeanJoe - 150 BWV (Jun) $78 all '05 Seller pays closing (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
jelloatdisney - 150 BCV $85 all 04 banked plus all '05 (sub 4/20, pass 5/9)
JoeEpcotRocks - 100 BWV (Apr) $80all '05 (sub 5/4, pass 5/11)
Joni - 300 OKW $75 (sub 5/1, pass5/12)
tamar - 150 OKW (Dec) $76 52 banked '03, all '04 & '05 (pass 5/11)
Sugahbaby - 300 BCV $83 200 banked '04, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/13)
Poorman(seller) - 500 BWV (Dec) $77 37 '04, all '05 (pass 5/13)
JeanJoe - 100 BWV (Sep) $80 9 banked '03, 100 banked '04, all '05, (sub 5/2, pass 5/13)
beagle744 - 150 VWL (Dec) $79 4 '03, all '04 &'05 (sub 4/25, pass 5/13)
awatt - 150 BWV (Apr) $78 no closing costs submitted 4/12 (sub 4/12, pass 5/13)
iwannabeinwdw - 213 SSR (Mar) $79, all '05 (sub 4/21?, pass5/13)
tarpat1 - 150 VB (Feb) $67 (sub 5/2, pass 5/15)
Simba's Mom - 210 OKW (Aug) $78 all '05 (sub 5/2, pass 5/25)
bavaria - 50 OKW (Feb) $78 all '05 (sub 5/6)
DVCconvert - 50 BWV (Oct) $83 no points 'till 06 (sub 5/12)
stingmom-50 OKW (Feb) $78, (sub 5/6)

ROFR'D:
Diszip - 150 VWL (Aug) $75 all '05 + 8 '04 (ROFR'd on 1/20)
Kimber - 50 BCV $73 3 points coming in '05
Donald..really - 200 VWL $75
Mcorbo - 150 VWL $75 103 coming 04/05 (sub.1/07, ROFR 1/26)
disneydawn6 - 170 BCV $78 111 points June 2005 (on 1/26)
Scotch- 2) 150 OKW(Mar) $65 15pts. remaining in '05 (sub. 1/10, rofr 1/26)
(source KANSAS) - 150 BCV(Aug) $77 no points til '06, BUYER pay all closings cost, escow serivce, title insurance,etc+ $200 Disney Transfer fee, OC/$20/ROFR FEE
Greenban - 270 VWL (Aug) $76 all '03, '04 & '05 intact
kepps73 - BWV $77 ROFR'd 1/31(sorry, don't know anymore than that right now)
kelakash - 250 VWL $74 '04 &'05 (sub. appx. 1/03, ROFR'd on 1/31)
disgirl - 50 BCV $78 (Apr) no points 'til '06 (sub1/24, ROFR'd 2/10)
Scott H - 150 HH $69 no points till '06 (sub. appx. 1/19, ROFR'd 2/18)
soxfans45 - 180 BWV $78 (Apr) 163 '05 (sub, 2/28, ROFR'd 3/21)
colmenares - 100 BWV (Jun) $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/6)
Lauralea - 150 VWL (Dec) $70 5 '04, 13 '05 pts (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/13)
Lauralea - 150 BWV, (June) $70 '04, 05, ( sub 3/24, ROFR'd 4/18)
Mgrebenc - 230 OKW, (Sept) $70 all '05 (ROFR'd 4/18)
JoeEpcotRocks - 150 BWV(Feb) $76 no points 'til '06 (sub 3/30 ROFR'd 4/22)
SpoonfulofSugar - 150 BCV (Feb) $77 (submitted 4/8, ROFR'd 4/28)
timmykayla - 210 BWV (Apr) $77 no points 'till '06 (sub 4/15, ROFR'd 5/4)
DVCconvert - 100 BWV (Sep) $72 36 borrowed (exp 8/31), no '05 (ROFR'd 5/19)

WAITING:
tigger002 - 150 BCV (Oct) $85 120 '04 (banked), all '05. Buyer pays MN on banked and current points, and $200 transfer fee. Seller pays closing costs.
disfountainofyouth - 150HH (Aug) $66 no points til '06 (sub 5/10)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Dec) $81 all 04 banked, all 05 (sub 5/16)
DVCconvert - BWV 230 (Sept) $77 19 '05 (sub 5/19)
mickey's bud - 210 BWV (Feb) $80 147 banked, 160 on hold (must be used by 2/06) (sub 5/18)
andriade - 230 OKW (Apr) $76 29 banked '04 all '05. seller is paying all closing cost. (sub appx 5/16)
jiggerj - 230 OKW (Sept)$75 84 banked '04 all '05 (sub 5/18)
Colmenares3 - 80 BWV 76 banked (sub 5/24)
goldilocks 63 - 110 BCV (Oct) $83 all coming 10/06 (sub 5/27)
mouseclick1 - 100 HH (Mar) $68 no pts. till '06 - seller pays closing cost
auntsue - 350 BWV (Jun) $76, no points until 06 (sub 5/12)

 

[JandD Mom]

I have been holding off posting anything until I heard because I have the most tortured history with DVC resale offers. I Was afraid if I posted our latest deal on the waiting list as I had in the past, I would be JINXED!

Anyway, DVC waived ROFR on our purchase of BWV. Here are the details:

Sept U/Y, 290 points, 15 points left from 2004, all points available Sept 1, 2005. Sale price $80 per point, buyer to pay all closing costs, seller to pay all 2005 MF. Submitted 5/4. THis was for sale by owner, but we used a title agent who does tons of DVC and who is used by one of the big 3 DVC resalers. It went very smoothly from that standpoint.

And for those who do not believe the "legend" of the counter offer ... BELIEVE IT! It happened to us. I will post on that separately

And those who don't believe DVC loses docs ... BELIEVE IT. We were given the option to counter offer within 10 days of the original contract. We submitted the second offer on 5/4. The seller called DVC to confirm they received the docs and they were in order. 2 weeks later, the seller called again, this time DVC told her they never received the docs. WHAT?!!! So they were re-sent. We got a phone call today but apparently the official email will be sent tomorrow ... the 30th day.

DVC needs to get its house in order regarding the processing of resales. It is shameful that they make their members wait so long to close these deals when they try to sell. But we are happy buyers tonight!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Disney Fanatic]

JandD Mom

Great to hear you are now a DVC Member.

Just curious how you found your private seller.

I am having trouble finding a good contract with banked points and the Timeshare Store would be my first choice is they had anything great for sale with the number of points we are looking for.

I can 't wait to hear more about your story.

 

[JandD Mom]

Just curious how you found your private seller.

I am having trouble finding a good contract with banked points and the Timeshare Store would be my first choice is they had anything great for sale with the number of points we are looking for.

I can 't wait to hear more about your story.

Disney Fanatic,

I found the seller by chance. She answered a question I had on the TUG web site about the second time I tried to buy DVC and was getting the run around by that agent (GMAC). She also happened to mention she was trying to sell as well. I then noticed she posts here under the same name. I sent her a PM, noticed she lives not far from me, and we met to discuss. She and her husband are wonderful people and we were each able to add our own unique expertise to get this done. The rest is history. It was completely a fluke and a good match.

I am a little pressed for time tonight, but will post a link to my torturous story tomorrow, and link it here. Thanks!

 

[JandD Mom]

For info on the first two times we tried to purchase DVC, click here.

The first time, the broker (not TSS) made an honest mistake and told her the seller had BWV, when in reality, it was OKW. We withdrew our offer. I believe the broker was trying to give me the option of making an offer before it got to the listings, and did not double check the facts.

The second broker I would not use again or recommend. These people wanted some very objectionable language in the contract allowing the title folks (a law firm) at their option, to extend closing by up to 60 days. We refused to agree and then "suddenly" the broker notified me that the sellers did not realize what my offer was.

This whole process started for us around April 10.

I will post a separate thread about this contract and post it here.

 

[T.E. Yeary]

I for one, would be VERY interested in how Disney let you make a counter offer within 10 days. You probably recall a post I made not too long ago, when we were told by Disney in no uncertain terms to "BACK-OFF" after a contract was ROFR'd.

If this were possible, do you folks have any idea how many HAPPY people could walk away from ROFR?

If you are unable to post the details on this board, would you please send a PM to me about it?

Thanks,
Tom

 

[nanamarge]

Hi I just thought maybe you could post this as well. I am the seller
150 points SSR brand new all 2005 points starting in june submitted 5/24
thanks
(selling on my own, no broker)
i find your postings very informative!!!

 

[JandD Mom]

This deal was FSBO also. 10 days or so after the submission of our first contract, DVC told the title agent that they were inclined to exercise ROFR, but to check with us to see if we wanted to submit another offer. We did not have to be told twice.

The first offer was for $78 per point, with the same terms regarding costs and MFs as I outlined. We raised the price to $80 per point because (THANKS TO THIS THREAD ) we knew most BWVs with this quantity of points were getting through at $80. Frankly, we were shocked it would not get through at $78, but perhaps our arrangement for seller to pay MFs was the issue with our deal.

The problem was that we submitted the second offer the next day. DVC confirmed to the seller that they had it. ANother 10 days went by and when the seller called to check, DVC indicated they never received it. Then it was re-sent, and DVC told seller they did find it.

I feel very fortunate to have the opportunity to counter offer. However, I do think DVC has to do something about the service in their resale office. The poor seller has been waiting over 6 weeks to date to get the proceeds from this sale, and even though we got the verbal waiver, we still never got any email or documentation from DVC telling us they waived ROFR. We just got the verbal ok from DVC to the title agent, and the lapse of the 30 days. The seller has to still wait for the settlement to get the proceeds, and we have to wait even longer to use our points and get passes, etc, for our planned August trip. It does not leave a magical taste in my mouth.

 

[Beca]

I will get all the "new" people added.

J and D mom - do you have written confirmation that you passed? I think there may, in fact, be a problem at DVC's ROFR department (maybe they are just TOO busy). Here's the "lowdown" on the BWV contract that I sold in Apr for $69 per point. It sat in ROFR for 30 days, and then DVC called to say they needed the contract "re-faxed" over. We then received "verbal" confirmation that DVC was waiving their right of refusal...the contract was going thru at $69 per point. I was a little shocked, but figured since most of the points were gone until '06...well, my buyer was getting a "lucky break". Well, we wait two weeks for the contracts to come from my broker, and nothing!! I call, and the agent says DVC still has not sent them the info that they need to fill out the closing papers. Then, the FedEx arrives telling me that DVC has decided NOT to waive their ROFR, and they are buying the contract back!!! I call my closing agent, who calls DVC. They have to "look" into it. They call my agent back later, and explain that since "two different decisions were made on the contract", they will let the contract go thru.

At this point, my buyer is COMPLETELY fed-up with the process, and calls me to say "forget it...I don't want the contract anymore". (Of course, I am thinking, "Are you NUTS....you just got a $69 point BWV thru ROFR!!). So, my closing agent calls DVC back, explains that the buyer wants to back out because of all this "craziness", and DVC apologizes and offers to buy the contract back from me. So...I sold it to DVC.

Now, I don't take ANY word as solid from DVC unless I have it in writing!!!

That's a REALLY good deal with all MF's being paid...that gets you down to less than $76 per point...CONGRATULATIONS!!!

nanamarge...thanks for the kind words!! Do you mind telling what you sold your SSR for (per point)? Thanks!!!

PASSED:
DisneyRose - 150 VWL (Sep) $80 all '04 '05 (Sub 2/14, pass 3/1)
Cinderpals - 200 BWV (Oct) $77 all '04 & '05 (Sub 2/11, pass 3/3)
rdcoffee - 350 BCV $83, all '05 (sub 2/17, pass 3/8)
Colorado Belle - 170 BWV $80.5 all '04 '05 (seller pays all '05 MF) (sub 2/18, pass 3/8)
LauraLea - 90 BWV (Oct) $76 147 04, all 05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/8)
monami7 - 50 HH (Mar) $75, all '05 (sub 2/25, pass 3/8)
travelin' tigger - 50 OKW (Oct.) $78/pt. No '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Greg K. - 160 BWV (Mar) $80 all '04 banked into '05
jnrrt - 175 BWV (Jun) $78 51 '04 and all '05 (sub 2/23, pass 3/10)
DizWacko - 120 BCV (Dec) $84 75 '04, all '05 (sub 2/26, pass3/10)
JimMIA - 310 OKW (Oct) $73, 149 '04, all '05, (sub 2/25, pass 3/10)
Amyup - 100 SSR (Dec) $80 all '04 and '05 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
RWinNola - 150 BWV (Mar) $78 all '05 (sub 2/28, pass 3/14)
rtobe - 150 BWV $78 (sub 2/22, pass 3/14)
Beca - 220 BCV (Aug) $83 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
Magicalfun - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50 no points 'til '06 (sub 2/17, pass 3/18)
roadtripper - 100 OKW (Jun) $76 20 '04, all '05 (sub 3/2, pass 3/21)
bluedoggy - 100 OKW (Mar) $75 all '05 '06 (sub 3/15, pass 3/30)
magicalmcwho - 150 BCV (Aug) $88 40 banked 04 and all 05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/30)
lsl - 100 SSR (Aug), $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, pass 3/30)
wdwhereicome - 30 OKW (Feb) $80 15 '05 points (sub 3/9, pass 3/31)
Beca (seller) - 210 BWV (Sept) $69 60 '05 (sub 3/1, pass 4/1)
champagne27 - 200 BWV $78, 188 37 '04, all '05 (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
KANSAS - 200 BWV(Aug) $78 all '04 & '05 (sub appx 3/12, pass 4/4)
AnnMorin (seller) - 190 VB (Dec) $58.42 13 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/4)
Oz-Ma - 100 BCV (Oct) $85 04 and 05 points (sub 3/11, pass 4/4)
justjudy - 230 OKW (Jun) $79 209 banked '04, all '05 (don't know dates)
Northern Lights - 160 BCV (aug), $85, 42 banked '04, all '05 (sub 3/10, pass 4/8)
Beca - 100 BCV (Aug) $83.50, 2 '05 points, (sub 3/25, pass 4/8)
dizhoni - 100 OKW (Jun) $74 all 05 (sub 3/21,pass 4/7)
soxfans45 - 200 BWV (Jun) $80 67 '04, all '05 (sub 3/21, pass 4/11)
Scratch42 - 200 BCV (Dec) $82....THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!
supernurse99 - 190 OKW (Aug) $73 3 '04 banked, all '05 (sub 4/2,pass 4/19)
winniedapooh - 52 OKW (Aug) $76 (52 for both 2003/04 banked=104 use by 8/1/05) (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
NJOYURLIFE - 50 OKW (Oct) $75 38 '03 (banked) (sub 4/6), pass 4/22
DVCforMe - 150 VWL (Dec) $78 31 '03 (banked) all '04 (sub 4/1) pass 4/22
keishashadow - 58 VWL (Oct) $82 all '04 (banked) all '05 (sub 4/4 pass 4/22)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Jun) $78 47 banked, all 05 (sub 04/01 pass 4/22)
aussiemickeys - 150 SSR (Feb) $83 all '05 (sub 3/16, pass 4/22)
disneymiss - 100 VWL (Dec) $79, all '04 (banked), all '05 (sub 4/4, pass 4/22)
mommary - 300 VWL (Dec) $80 289 '04 (banked), all '05 (pass 4/22)
wbcincy - 155 BWV(Feb) $79 all '05 points (sub appx 3/30, pass 2/25)
depilot - 240 BCV(Feb) $79.17 (pass appx. 4/14)
MaryAnnBaum - 400 SSR (Dec) $84 (all '03) all '04 banked to '05 (sub 4/14, pass 5/9)
utahkennedys - 25 OKW (Feb) $78 10 banked, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/9)
isyt - 400 VWL (Aug) $78 400 banked (sub 4/20,pass 5/9)
Mgrebenc - 150 HH (Oct) $72 no banked all '05 (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
JeanJoe - 150 BWV (Jun) $78 all '05 Seller pays closing (sub 4/21, pass 5/9)
jelloatdisney - 150 BCV $85 all 04 banked plus all '05 (sub 4/20, pass 5/9)
JoeEpcotRocks - 100 BWV (Apr) $80all '05 (sub 5/4, pass 5/11)
Joni - 300 OKW $75 (sub 5/1, pass5/12)
tamar - 150 OKW (Dec) $76 52 banked '03, all '04 & '05 (pass 5/11)
Sugahbaby - 300 BCV $83 200 banked '04, all '05 (sub 4/28, pass 5/13)
Poorman(seller) - 500 BWV (Dec) $77 37 '04, all '05 (pass 5/13)
JeanJoe - 100 BWV (Sep) $80 9 banked '03, 100 banked '04, all '05, (sub 5/2, pass 5/13)
beagle744 - 150 VWL (Dec) $79 4 '03, all '04 &'05 (sub 4/25, pass 5/13)
awatt - 150 BWV (Apr) $78 no closing costs submitted 4/12 (sub 4/12, pass 5/13)
iwannabeinwdw - 213 SSR (Mar) $79, all '05 (sub 4/21?, pass5/13)
tarpat1 - 150 VB (Feb) $67 (sub 5/2, pass 5/15)
Simba's Mom - 210 OKW (Aug) $78 all '05 (sub 5/2, pass 5/25)
bavaria - 50 OKW (Feb) $78 all '05 (sub 5/6)
DVCconvert - 50 BWV (Oct) $83 no points 'till 06 (sub 5/12)
stingmom-50 OKW (Feb) $78, (sub 5/6)
JandD Mom - 290 BWV (Sep) $80 15 '04, all '05. seller to pay all 2005 MF
(sub 5/4)

ROFR'D:
Diszip - 150 VWL (Aug) $75 all '05 + 8 '04 (ROFR'd on 1/20)
Kimber - 50 BCV $73 3 points coming in '05
Donald..really - 200 VWL $75
Mcorbo - 150 VWL $75 103 coming 04/05 (sub.1/07, ROFR 1/26)
disneydawn6 - 170 BCV $78 111 points June 2005 (on 1/26)
Scotch- 2) 150 OKW(Mar) $65 15pts. remaining in '05 (sub. 1/10, rofr 1/26)
(source KANSAS) - 150 BCV(Aug) $77 no points til '06, BUYER pay all closings cost, escow serivce, title insurance,etc+ $200 Disney Transfer fee, OC/$20/ROFR FEE
Greenban - 270 VWL (Aug) $76 all '03, '04 & '05 intact
kepps73 - BWV $77 ROFR'd 1/31(sorry, don't know anymore than that right now)
kelakash - 250 VWL $74 '04 &'05 (sub. appx. 1/03, ROFR'd on 1/31)
disgirl - 50 BCV $78 (Apr) no points 'til '06 (sub1/24, ROFR'd 2/10)
Scott H - 150 HH $69 no points till '06 (sub. appx. 1/19, ROFR'd 2/18)
soxfans45 - 180 BWV $78 (Apr) 163 '05 (sub, 2/28, ROFR'd 3/21)
colmenares - 100 BWV (Jun) $80 all '05 (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/6)
Lauralea - 150 VWL (Dec) $70 5 '04, 13 '05 pts (sub 3/14, ROFR'd 4/13)
Lauralea - 150 BWV, (June) $70 '04, 05, ( sub 3/24, ROFR'd 4/18)
Mgrebenc - 230 OKW, (Sept) $70 all '05 (ROFR'd 4/18)
JoeEpcotRocks - 150 BWV(Feb) $76 no points 'til '06 (sub 3/30 ROFR'd 4/22)
SpoonfulofSugar - 150 BCV (Feb) $77 (submitted 4/8, ROFR'd 4/28)
timmykayla - 210 BWV (Apr) $77 no points 'till '06 (sub 4/15, ROFR'd 5/4)
DVCconvert - 100 BWV (Sep) $72 36 borrowed (exp 8/31), no '05 (ROFR'd 5/19)

WAITING:
tigger002 - 150 BCV (Oct) $85 120 '04 (banked), all '05. Buyer pays MN on banked and current points, and $200 transfer fee. Seller pays closing costs.
disfountainofyouth - 150HH (Aug) $66 no points til '06 (sub 5/10)
RayJay - 100 BWV (Dec) $81 all 04 banked, all 05 (sub 5/16)
DVCconvert - BWV 230 (Sept) $77 19 '05 (sub 5/19)
mickey's bud - 210 BWV (Feb) $80 147 banked, 160 on hold (must be used by 2/06) (sub 5/18)
andriade - 230 OKW (Apr) $76 29 banked '04 all '05. seller is paying all closing cost. (sub appx 5/16)
jiggerj - 230 OKW (Sept)$75 84 banked '04 all '05 (sub 5/18)
Colmenares3 - 80 BWV 76 banked (sub 5/24)
goldilocks 63 - 110 BCV (Oct) $83 all coming 10/06 (sub 5/27)
mouseclick1 - 100 HH (Mar) $68 no pts. till '06 - seller pays closing cost
auntsue - 350 BWV (Jun) $76, no points until 06 (sub 5/12)
nanamarge(seller) - 150 SSR (Jun) all '05 (sub 5/24)

 

[JandD Mom]

Beca,

Thanks. I know what you are saying and it crossed my mind that I have nothing in writing yet. Our title agent used to work at DVC and has strong contacts there. When I called her yesterday about the written confirmation, she indicated she is positive they are waiving ROFR because their contact at DVC told them directly. She told me not to worry. ALso, they may have sent the info directly to the seller, who is out of town this weekend.

I am hoping I am not one of the nightmares.

Thanks!

 

[JimMIA]

I for one, would be VERY interested in how Disney let you make a counter offer within 10 days. You probably recall a post I made not too long ago, when we were told by Disney in no uncertain terms to "BACK-OFF" after a contract was ROFR'd.

If this were possible, do you folks have any idea how many HAPPY people could walk away from ROFR?

If you are unable to post the details on this board, would you please send a PM to me about it?

Thanks,
Tom

I have to jump in here and share Tom's consternation.

Don't take this wrong - I'm glad you got your contract. Congratulations and welcome home. But...

For Disney to allow counter-offers on ROFR's sounds like pretty shabby business practice both legally and ethically. Very unlike Disney.

Legally, Disney has every right to step in and purchase any resale contract they review. There is nothing wrong with that. But if they force you to pay a higher price (which is exactly what they are doing), they are price-fixing...and price-fixing is illegal. All they are doing in that case is intervening in the free-market negotiations between seller and buyer in order to force up resale prices to bolster their new and "sold-out resort" prices. ROFR offers them a mechanixm to do that legally, but for them to fix your price is almost certainly illegal.

Someone might ask, "But wait a minute -- aren't they just being nice and letting them have what they want?" Okay, if they want to do that, then do it for everybody. Ooops - can't. That would be price-fixing.

The second issue is how do they ethically decide who they are going to allow to re-bid and who they're not? Is it only the people who are purchasing directly from owners and not using a broker? It sure seems that way.

If so, what are they trying to do -- put the brokers out of business? Why? That would not only be illegal, it would be stupid from their business perspective!

Much of the resale market depends on brokers willing to focus on very small real estate transactions with minimal commission revenues. Put on your business hat for a second and do the following math. You're a realtor - would you rather sell a $400,000 house for 4% commission ($16,000), or a $15,000 DVC resale with a 10% commission ($1,500)? Hmmm?

Without a strong resale market, resale prices would fall through the floor and Disney's prices would follow them down. They certainly would not be able to sell SSR at $98 if OKW right down the street was $48.

Maybe it's not the brokers; maybe it's something else. Is it just nice people they allow to re-bid? Or only people from certain places, or with/without certain accents -- people the ROFR guru's somehow feel comfortable with?

If the system is as arbitrary as it seems, how does anyone know they are being treated fairly? When you change the rules only for some people, it's hard to believe everyone is playing on a level playing field.

 

[JandD Mom]

Jim,

I absolutely agree with you that the ROFR process is shabby and DVC is not handling it well. Having been through it I sympathize with Beca and her buyer because I know how disgusted I am as I approach the end of this process. I just finished sending an email to the title agent indicating I will not wire the money for the closing until DVC sends us formal confirmation that they have waived ROFR. The title agent says DVC told them it would be coming "some time this week."

However, I do not agree with you with regard to price fixing. DVC would only be engaging in price fixing if their action were affecting all timeshares sold in the area (not just DVC). There is still plenty of other competition out there, and if you want a cheaper timeshare close by it is not hard to find. IF Disney wants to maintain a certain price for their product and people go along with it, then I don't see any problem with that. It's just called business. This model is benefitting all owners, by keeping the prices from falling like a sports car you just drove off of a lot. It is one reason we decided to by DVC vs. Marriott.

In my case, they did do me a favor by giving me another shot because I expected to pay around $80 per point anyway (the seller and I had a very odd negotiation, where we were both more interested in what would go through, rather than whether I would pay less or the seller could get more). If they came back to me again would I have gone to $82? Don't know. At that point we are getting awfully close to the break point where it would have just been easier to go through DVC directly. However, giving me another shot gave me the guidance I needed in this case.

I agree with you though ... why would they allow re-bids by FSBOs and not brokers? That is a discussion that the brokers have to have with DVC ... hopefully after my contract settles!

Note though, maybe DVC could be changing its policy regarding re-bids. Maybe they will allow it more in the future. Maybe they allow it just on contracts they really don't have a need to buy back (how many people do you think are on a wait list for 290 points?). Maybe it is a new way of handling things with the impending price increase? There may be lots of reasons behind it. Just because they allowed it now does not mean they have not and will not allow it in other cases.