Anyone lost overboard on DCL?

[WallaceFamily]

I wonder if that was imposed by the captain or the boy's parents?

Woody

I remember reading that the captain ordered him to stay in room unless escorted by a parent.

 

[WallaceFamily]

Just realized that others already stated what I said. Sorry.

 

[lbgraves]

The moderators earned their keep when the castmember went missing. The thread was FLYING, ....

Just for the record, the moderators on the DIS boards do not receive any compensation for the work they do here.

 

[SnowWhite2]

People do not "fall" off of cruise ships. The railings are pretty high so when someone "goes overboard" it is usually a self-induced action, not by accident. It is almost impossible to accidently "fall" off of a cruise ship.

 

[CandyMandy]

A cruise member went missing from the ship about a year and a half ago...presumably overboard, presumably by choice--although I'm not aware of any definitive proof of that.

You are referring to Rebecca Coriam. As for the "presumably," the cursory, superficial "investigation" into her disapperance consisted of a single police officer from the Bahamas spending a few hours on the Wonder.

There were certain people here at the time claiming to be experts on maritime law saying all sorts of entities including U.S, authorities would be involved in "investigating" and there would be follow-up. Here are is a an example from the following thread:

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2684898&highlight=missing&page=28

This was posted on 03/27/11:

"There will be many investigative agencies onboard the Wonder, with inspectors that joined in Cabo, and more in LA. Theses groups will of course include (but are not limited to) the USCG, vessel inspection agencies, insurance companies, British authorities as she is a British citizen, US dept. of transportation and likely the FBI, Federal investigative groups, and more I am sure!

All these groups will be issuing reports, both public and private."

Really? Well, here we are over a year later, and:

- No, there were not a "number" or "many" agencies" investigating. The only "investigation" was for a few hours by a single policeman from the Bahamas.

- No, there were never any "final" public reports released on Rebeccas's disapperance. Not by the Bahamas authorities, not by the USCG, not by "vessel inspection agencies" or "insurance companies" or Disney, not by anyone.

- No, the "facts" have not "simply come out in time."

The only facts we do have are:

A so-called "investigation" into this disappearance which was brief and limited.

To this his day there being no meaningful evidence to support any hard conclusion on what happened to Rebecca.

The very sad fact her family is still waiting for her return or confirmed information on her fate.

http://www.rebecca-coriam.com/

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2011/11/03/shipping-minister-mike-penning-attacks-disney-over-missing-cruise-ship-worker-rebecca-coriam-92534-29710417/

 

[chateau]

Just for the record, the moderators on the DIS boards do not receive any compensation for the work they do here.

You're KIDDING ME!!! Not in any way?!?! THAT is unbelievable!

 

[chateau]

You are referring to Rebecca Coriam.

Thanks for putting a name and face to what was always "cast member".

 

[lmhall2000]

Thanks for putting a name and face to what was always "cast member".

We were on the cruise the week before she went missing, our children remembered her from an interaction during a scavenger hunt..upset them greatly and we still pray for her and her family...so heartbreaking to not know.

 

[Disney Dreams]

If you run a Google search for Rebecca Corium you will find 100s of articles that were written about her when she disappeared.

There is one article that is from the Guardian in the UK that is very thorough in details. (I would provide a link, but there is foul language used in one sentence of the article so it's a DIS violation to link to it.)

Also, you might find this of interest: Cruise Crew & Passenger Overboard.
The latest occurrence is as recently as last week.

- Dreams

 

[grahamgallagher]

I believe ALL ships have a "jail" on board, he should have gone there!

I could be wrong, but I seem to remember the boy had to stay in his cabin the rest of the cruise.

 

[grahamgallagher]

High seas, extreme wind - never say never!

People do not "fall" off of cruise ships. The railings are pretty high so when someone "goes overboard" it is usually a self-induced action, not by accident. It is almost impossible to accidently "fall" off of a cruise ship.

 

[grahamgallagher]

What a loss, our thoughts are with you.

You are referring to Rebecca Coriam. As for the "presumably," the cursory, superficial "investigation" into her disapperance consisted of a single police officer from the Bahamas spending a few hours on the Wonder (despite certain people here at the time claiming to be experts on maritime law saying all sorts of entities including U.S, authorities would be involved in "exhaustive" follow-up. They were wrong, there was none). So to this day there is no meaningful evidence to suggest what happened to her. Her family is still waiting for her return or confirmed information on her fate.

http://www.rebecca-coriam.com/

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2011/11/03/shipping-minister-mike-penning-attacks-disney-over-missing-cruise-ship-worker-rebecca-coriam-92534-29710417/

 

[Miumiu4me]

People do not "fall" off of cruise ships. The railings are pretty high so when someone "goes overboard" it is usually a self-induced action, not by accident. It is almost impossible to accidently "fall" off of a cruise ship.

That completely depends on the ship. I've been on two ships with disturbingly low railings - NCL Sun and the Bahamas Celebration.

 

[WallaceFamily]

I believe ALL ships have a "jail" on board, he should have gone there!

He was just a kid doing a stupid thing. I think his punishment was enough.

 

[CandyMandy]

It is very hard to go overboard by accident on these ships -- the railings are at about 4.5 feet height

People do not "fall" off of cruise ships. The railings are pretty high so when someone "goes overboard" it is usually a self-induced action, not by accident. It is almost impossible to accidently "fall" off of a cruise ship.

I agree it is hard, but disagree with "almost impossible." Once you start looking at the numbers of passengers who have vanished at sea while on cruises (some of them shown below), it becomes virtually impossible to assume every single one of them intentionally jumped overboard or was the victim of foul play.

The numbers? Here are 33 for you start with. Details on each are at
http://www.cruiseshipmissing.com/:

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

There are closer to 200 t0 300 passengers and crew members that disappear each year.

AKK

 

[TXDCLfan]

There are closer to 200 t0 300 passengers and crew members that disappear each year.

AKK

Are you sure that you did not add an extra 0 in there by mistake those are pretty big numbers.

 

[CandyMandy]

Are you sure that you did not add an extra 0 in there by mistake those are pretty big numbers.

I agree, the triple digit numbers can't be correct. If that many passengers were disappearing annually the industry would be dealing with a PR nightmare.

Sadly, the numbers are just low enough -- and the Bahamas "registry of convenience" approach to "investigating" disappearances is just weak enough -- that the lost passengers become "collateral damage" the cruise industry has been to able to keep sweeping under the rug. RCI in particular has managed to keep its brand reputation clean despite continually having missing passenger incidents.

 

[TDC Nala]

There is no way 200 to 300 passengers and crew members vanish from cruise ships each year. In the chart that was linked previously, the highest number listed was 25 in 2009. The larger statistic must take into account other types of seagoing vessels.

The Coast Guard reports cover only US nationals, they would not have a statistic on Rebecca Coriam, who was British.

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg2/cgis/CruiseLine.asp

The answer to the OP's question is that there is no record of anyone ever falling overboard from a Disney Cruise Line ship. Ms. Coriam is the only report of a missing person, and it is not known what happened to her.

 

[lbgraves]

You're KIDDING ME!!! Not in any way?!?! THAT is unbelievable!

No I am not kidding. I know this from first-hand experience. You do not have set hours, but try to check the board often. When there is an hot thread you tend to spend more time online than usual.