Anyone else think Disney is getting Greedy?

[Suvadoo]

So even in the "good old days" of the early 60's there was still some serious planning to do!

I don't think it's anything compared to the planning today, especially if you want to avoid stand-by lines and you want table service meals!

 

[DisUniversal]

What innovation? Which awesome new products? According to a 2013 Money article, "Despite its reputation, Apple has rarely been in the business of creating entirely new markets. Apple didn't invent the PC, the MP3 player, the smartphone or the tablet."

That is one person's opinion. I think most would agree that Apple did in fact create new markets for MP3 players, smartphone's and tablets.

Disney didn't create animated movies or 'dark rides', but was easily responsible for taking them to the next level and making them mainstream. Pretty much the same thing.

 

[Networth]

NOPE, true she is as honest as the day is long but, this is the expected response from the DIS. If it is anything negative about Disney it must not be true

Hey if you believe your friend good for you but call Disney and ask them what a wedding similar to your friends with 70 guests would cost I think you may find your giving your trust a little to easily.

Also who said I was defending Disney? I won't even have my own wedding at WDW, which if you read my post you would of seen. I'll just chalk it up to your having a bad day so I will not jump to conclusions that your a "Disney hater" or anything.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Hey if you believe your friend good for you but call Disney and ask them what a wedding similar to your friends with 70 guests would cost I think you may find your giving your trust a little to easily.

Also who said I was defending Disney? I won't even have my own wedding, which if you read my post you would of seen. Just sounds like you need a hug

At the same time, you have no idea what that 200k includes. You don't know how much they spent on wedding clothing (dress, accessories, hair styling, make up, tux, etc). You don't know if they paid for their attendants' clothes/hair/makeup (BMs or GM). You don't know whose hotel rooms they paid for, or where those hotel rooms were. You don't know whose travel costs they paid for, and what those travel costs were. You don't know if they purchased park admission for anyone.

That's a lot of information to not have, and then turn around and say someone is lying.

I do agree the fireworks charge was likely a misunderstanding and the cost was for piping music into a location that doesn't usually have it, but again that is likely a misunderstanding, and not the friend "telling fairy tales."

 

[maxiesmom]

At the same time, you have no idea what that 200k includes. You don't know how much they spent on wedding clothing (dress, accessories, hair styling, make up, tux, etc). You don't know if they paid for their attendants' clothes/hair/makeup (BMs or GM). You don't know whose hotel rooms they paid for, or where those hotel rooms were. You don't know whose travel costs they paid for, and what those travel costs were. You don't know if they purchased park admission for anyone.

That's a lot of information to not have, and then turn around and say someone is lying.

I do agree the fireworks charge was likely a misunderstanding and the cost was for piping music into a location that doesn't usually have it, but again that is likely a misunderstanding, and not the friend "telling fairy tales."

Then why did you throw the 200,000 figure out there as if it was the result of Disney being greedy? If a wedding can be done at WDW for much much less, that cost is not from Disney being greedy, but from the bridal party adding on a lot of extras.

I believe your friend was not lying, but I don't believe the cost had to do with Disney being greedy. But with your friend wanting the wedding to be extra extra special. I'm sure 200,000 is an easy enough figure to get to outside of WDW if someone really wants to hit it.

 

[Networth]

At the same time, you have no idea what that 200k includes. You don't know how much they spent on wedding clothing (dress, accessories, hair styling, make up, tux, etc). You don't know if they paid for their attendants' clothes/hair/makeup (BMs or GM). You don't know whose hotel rooms they paid for, or where those hotel rooms were. You don't know whose travel costs they paid for, and what those travel costs were. You don't know if they purchased park admission for anyone. That's a lot of information to not have, and then turn around and say someone is lying. I do agree the fireworks charge was likely a misunderstanding and the cost was for piping music into a location that doesn't usually have it, but again that is likely a misunderstanding, and not the friend "telling fairy tales."

Yes but those costs are general and vary to anyone wedding, it's not particular to WDW. The post came off as the individual spent 200k on a wedding so Disney should throw in the music for the fireworks. How dare Disney charge extra when I'm already spending 200k.

I am currently planning a wedding on Nantucket. Spending a very large sum of money, that includes hotel rooms for some, dresses, tuxs, limos, private planes, hair/make up etc just as you listed. A lot of those cost are not fixed to the venue itself as you rightly pointed out. Yet because we are spending a lot of money on Nantucket doesn't mean they won't charge me extra to close the beach off to the public for the entire day/night because I chose to have my wedding on their island. They are charging me extra for a perk, even though I am spending a very large amount already. I don't expect something I haven't paid for, maybe that's the differences

But again if she/he believes their friend no skin off my back just saying the number does not sound correct based off personal experiences.

 

[brunette8706]

You don't, the plastic RFID tickets work fine. No one HAS to pay for bands.

Hi Networth!

I had no idea. I just read on the Disney website that it was $12.95. Maybe I miss-read. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Networth]

Hi Networth! I had no idea. I just read on the Disney website that it was $12.95. Maybe I miss-read. Thanks for the clarification.

Your welcome.

They only charge for the bands if you for some reason you really want the band. I don't know if you stay onsite or have an AP but than they do send a "free" band if you do either. Other than that I would save the money, I wish I could just send you some of my extra's lol.

 

[brunette8706]

Your welcome.

They only charge for the bands if you for some reason you really want the band. I don't know if you stay onsite or have an AP but than they do send a "free" band if you do either. Other than that I would save the money, I wish I could just send you some of my extra's lol.

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Oh okay. I haven't read the thread about magic bands. Haven't been to Disney in about 2 1/2 years. Yes, we usually do get an AP. So we can still buy AP tickets without getting the magic band? Can we buy kids tickets without getting the magic band too? Sorry about all the questions just curious.

Thanks again!

 

[Goofyuk]

All this has kicked off because in the space of a week Disney has brought out 2 new premium packages. So lets look at how "new" they are

The tours: tours have been happening for decades and they always include benefits that you don't get if you're not on the tour, otherwise what's the point. It could be early entry, backstage area opened, extra M&G, free food, free pins, unique transport, unique locations, etc. The new tours announced are nothing new, they are simply more attraction heavy than most previous tours.

Frozen Party: if you pay extra for a meal, you get guranteed access to a fireworks event and a stage show. How is this considered a huge departure from the Fantasmic packages or Wishes dessert party?

 

[Angel Ariel]

Then why did you throw the 200,000 figure out there as if it was the result of Disney being greedy? If a wedding can be done at WDW for much much less, that cost is not from Disney being greedy, but from the bridal party adding on a lot of extras.

I believe your friend was not lying, but I don't believe the cost had to do with Disney being greedy. But with your friend wanting the wedding to be extra extra special. I'm sure 200,000 is an easy enough figure to get to outside of WDW if someone really wants to hit it.

Um..I.didn't throw any number out there. I wasn't the one who posted about the 200k wedding.

I just don't like the trend on this board lately where people are called liars when their experience doesn't match someone else's.

 

[wilkeliza]

That is one person's opinion. I think most would agree that Apple did in fact create new markets for MP3 players, smartphone's and tablets.

Disney didn't create animated movies or 'dark rides', but was easily responsible for taking them to the next level and making them mainstream. Pretty much the same thing.

Disney dud create animated movies. Until Snow White nobody thought an animated full length feature would sell. Animation had only been shorts up until that point.

Also Disney may not have made the "dark ride" but they invented the omnimover and animatronics.

Also what are people getting at that Disney isn't working on the other parks? We all know Pandora is coming to DAK with at least 2 new rides and a night time show. Also it is well known that something is going on at DHS there is just no announcement yet. I feel like the community burned Disney for announcing New Fantasyland in the planning stages that they learned their lesson and will try to take on Uni's approach of lets not say anything until it is 75% done that way we can say we built it fast and it is almost ready.

 

[Networth]

** Oh okay. I haven't read the thread about magic bands. Haven't been to Disney in about 2 1/2 years. Yes, we usually do get an AP. So we can still buy AP tickets without getting the magic band? Can we buy kids tickets without getting the magic band too? Sorry about all the questions just curious. Thanks again!

When you purchase your AP they will send you a band and a card showing your a annual pass holder. Any AP ticket you get, will get a band which you can customize through MDE (their website). As for the kids tickets they won't get a band.

Also remember you will get bands for anyone in your party (children) if your staying at any Disney Resorts.

So hypothetically say you buy 2 AP's and 2 5 day children's tickets, and your stay at the Contemporary 2 kid 2 adults. You would get a total of 6 bands. 2 from the AP's and 4 for each guest staying at the resort.

 

[BuzzinDownToDisney]

Frozen Party: if you pay extra for a meal, you get guranteed access to a fireworks event and a stage show. How is this considered a huge departure from the Fantasmic packages or Wishes dessert party?

Dessert is not a meal however if anything the Frozen package vastly devalues the Wishes dessert party.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Yes but those costs are general and vary to anyone wedding, it's not particular to WDW. The post came off as the individual spent 200k on a wedding so Disney should throw in the music for the fireworks. How dare Disney charge extra when I'm already spending 200k.

See, I took the post as complaining that the friend believed there was a charge for them *seeing* the fireworks, not hearing the music. And yes, I.could understand being upset at being charged for *seeing* fireworks that are a part of the normal operating day as that is not an extra perk, like.closing off part of beach is.

Which is why I said I agreed with you that there was likely a misunderstanding there and that the friend didn't understand that she wasn't being charged for *seeing* the fireworks, but for having the music piped in.

I can absolutely see that being a misunderstanding on the friend' s part rather than the friend lying about it.

My issue with the post is saying that she's lying about the 200k, because other Disney weddings you attended didn't cost that much and that all the other poster.would have to do is call Disney for wedding pricing and she.would see her friend was lying. Just because someone.else's Disney wedding didn't cost that much does not mean it is.impossible for a Disney wedding to.cost that much.

Would.I spend 200k on a wedding? Heck no. But other people do. I can absolutely envision a Disney wedding that costs 200k, even if I haven't experienced it.myself.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I think your friend may be telling you fairly tails. I have been to 3 Disney weddings and even looked at one myself(no way, but that's another discussions). Your friend said they spent 200k for 70 guests that's roughly $2800 a head. Even with the largest wedding I was at in Disney they did not hit 200k and they had 230 guest, with plenty of extras (wedding pavilion, dinner in Epcot, characters at the wedding, stage coach etc). Also the up charge for fireworks was to have the music piped in to the reception space, not a charge for the actual fireworks. Just saying something doesn't add up with your friend.

NOPE, true she is as honest as the day is long but, this is the expected response from the DIS. If it is anything negative about Disney it must not be true

Alrighty, then. It's good to know your coworker is 24 hours honest. $2,800+ per person for a wedding ceremony and a reception at Atlantic Dance Hall (yes, awarethe two events weren't necessarily at that one location) seems like it either includes more than just the events (transportation? hotels?), or possibly a number of the Guests were very expensive characters. If an upcharge for the fireworks photos wasn't actually for the music, perhaps it was for the additional work required to coordinate everyone for one of the very brief fireworks displays?

 

[Suvadoo]

Also what are people getting at that Disney isn't working on the other parks? We all know Pandora is coming to DAK with at least 2 new rides and a night time show. Also it is well known that something is going on at DHS there is just no announcement yet. I feel like the community burned Disney for announcing New Fantasyland in the planning stages that they learned their lesson and will try to take on Uni's approach of lets not say anything until it is 75% done that way we can say we built it fast and it is almost ready.

So far, since they announced Pandora in 2011 they've dug a couple of shovels of dirt and moved Lion King. This area isn't slated to open until 2016 at the earliest. DHS, who knows how long that will take and what it will be?

Universal has opened amazing new attractions annually for at least the past 5 years. Can you say the same for WDW?

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Hasn't the VIP thing been around for like 5 years?

 

[brunette8706]

When you purchase your AP they will send you a band and a card showing your a annual pass holder. Any AP ticket you get, will get a band which you can customize through MDE (their website). As for the kids tickets they won't get a band.

Also remember you will get bands for anyone in your party (children) if your staying at any Disney Resorts.

So hypothetically say you buy 2 AP's and 2 5 day children's tickets, and your stay at the Contemporary 2 kid 2 adults. You would get a total of 6 bands. 2 from the AP's and 4 for each guest staying at the resort.

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Oh cool! Thanks so much!

Have a Magical Day!

Brunette

 

[wilkeliza]

So far, since they announced Pandora in 2011 they've dug a couple of shovels of dirt and moved Lion King. This area isn't slated to open until 2016 at the earliest. DHS, who knows how long that will take and what it will be?

Universal has opened amazing new attractions annually for at least the past 5 years. Can you say the same for WDW?

Once again someone has to argue look what is going on down the rode! OMG Universal is opening something every year.

I like Universal I really do. Yes maybe they have opened new rides every year but how many of those rides have been transplants or redesigns of existing technology? Minions is a new overlay of an existing attraction, Transforms was brought over and had a quick build time because they had already spent the years of testing and construction on the CA version. The only thing that has been kind of innovative is Forbidden Journey. Disney does the same thing and gets raked over the coals for it.

We just got a new coaster and all I hear is complaints from people that it is too short or too kiddy. Guess what it is a super advance family coaster it isn't meant to be super thrilling or long.