Anyone else go overboard with budgeting/saving money?

I can't imagine telling my husband he can't have a drink. Or fretting my brain about it. The dp does sound like a way to not have to control others.

I don't tell him he can't have a drink, I just point out how much all of the drinks add up, lol. He drinks, eats, buys all he wants, we don't tell each other what to do, and in general, both of us can laugh at me when I act like that. But it's the fretting about it that I'm tired of. I'm the only one being driven crazy by this and I want to stop.

None of us is perfectly adjusted. The key is to know what your thing is, and you do. And yes you have to be aware of how your "thing" affects those around you. I cannot know what your husband thinks, but if my spouse made a comment about one drink I would be pissed. I say keep those comments in your head, and remind yourself that you have your "thing," and he has his. Period.

But, and this is huge, just because I would be annoyed about the drink comment, does NOT mean your husband is. What one couple thinks is a mean/horrible/unacceptable thing to say, another couple does not care.

One person may think it is sad about your money choices, I say it's your hobby. If it makes you feel in control, and your husband is on board, who cares if this is how you choose to live your life. If, on the other hand, this is annoying your husband, then yes you need to figure out how to make it work for both of you.

Some of it is hobby. If we won the lottery tomorrow I would still look at each expense. But I do think I have a problem with splurging on myself moreso (DH consults me on money decisions, but he wouldn't let me control him, even if I wanted to). For ex, my DH threatened to walk in a store and buy a purse for me the other day b/c I've been wanting a new one forever and couldn't make myself do it. The only reason I got it was b/c I knew he really would do it and he'd pick out something terrible, so this was in a way the cheaper option to go. But I was still sick about it.

For the pp who said I don't want tips, I'm not asking for anyone to help me uncover deep, psychological problems! I know what my issues are and I can guess why I have them, I'm just wondering if there are any tips for overcoming the reluctance to spend money even though you have it...Like the tips on letting DH pay for everything (may work, if I can stop the mental math, will definitely try this) or getting the DDP (at $200 or so a day for the 5 of us, this would kill me :sick:) In other words, has anyone been like this and found something(s) that helped them to let go of these hang ups?
Thanks for everyone who did share tips!
 
Over the top frugality is really a control issue. Throw away and delete those spreadsheets and allow yourself the freedom of choosing what you really want to. Most importantly, buy your husband two drinks, get your dessert and tell him that you love him!

You sound just like my DH:lmao:
 
I have to laugh at this sorta. DH was always buying me extravagant gifts (Gucci, Louis Vuitton, etc) and I always returned them because I felt guilty and thought it was excessive. Even though we are financially comfortable, I always felt like it was a waste.

Never realized that I was hurting his feelings because he wanted to do something nice for me. I think mentally because I grew up poor and my parents always fought about money, that I never want to go to there with him and its my way of protecting the relationship. Maybe its the same for you.

I know it kills me when my family of 5 to goes out to eat and I tally up in my head what 5 drinks cost . But I'd never tell them that.
 
I have to laugh at this sorta. DH was always buying me extravagant gifts (Gucci, Louis Vuitton, etc) and I always returned them because I felt guilty and thought it was excessive. Even though we are financially comfortable, I always felt like it was a waste.

Never realized that I was hurting his feelings because he wanted to do something nice for me. I think mentally because I grew up poor and my parents always fought about money, that I never want to go to there with him and its my way of protecting the relationship. Maybe its the same for you.

I know it kills me when my family of 5 to goes out to eat and I tally up in my head what 5 drinks cost . But I'd never tell them that.

I've secretly returned gifts too, would never let him know though. So glad to hear someone else thinks the same sometimes!

I'm not sure I'm explaining myself well.... My DH goes without nothing he wants, and we do not fight or argue over any of this, although he knows how I feel. If I make a comment, and I don't always, he loves to say "I'm king around here" and we laugh at the ridiculousness of that and move on. I'm also ok with kids having splurges. I do not feel it's my place to micromanage others. I cannot splurge on myself though, probably because I'm the only one i feel ok with controlling, and I'm just sick of always doing the mental math on these types of things, even if I am going along with spending on them. That is what I'm wondering how to change. I can stop myself from saying something but I can't stop the feelings, even though I know it's extreme.
 

I dated a guy with the same controlling issues over money. I just couldn't take it anymore. He started trying to tell me what to do with MY money, asking where every penny went. How much was that? How much was this? Being downright cheap and never paid for anything. (As in rent, eating out, shoes for himself. ) He made good money and so did I and yet everything came out of my wallet. His issues came from growing up poor, not having enough food/clothing and seeing his parents having money issues. I had never dealt with issues like that and I tried to help him. No matter what I tried it didn't seem to work in helping him step out of his own situation. At one point I switched jobs and took a month long vacation from work. Drove him up the wall,he started collecting change, wouldn't let me buy healthy groceries. He had thousands in the bank and I had enough for us to live on for for easily a couple years. It was ridiculous and I felt sorry for him.

OP I'm glad you're trying to change before it does come to a crazy divorce!
 
Telling someone how much something costs the entire time they are trying
To enjoy it is just as bad or worse than telling
Them they can't have something. Way to ruin what they enjoy! I'm a water drinker too, but I'd never ruin sodas or drinks for my husband. It would be like him reminding me
How much my wool yarn costs, when I could make mittens and hats of cheap acrylic.
 
I have to laugh at this sorta. DH was always buying me extravagant gifts (Gucci, Louis Vuitton, etc) and I always returned them because I felt guilty and thought it was excessive. Even though we are financially comfortable, I always felt like it was a waste.

Never realized that I was hurting his feelings because he wanted to do something nice for me. I think mentally because I grew up poor and my parents always fought about money, that I never want to go to there with him and its my way of protecting the relationship. Maybe its the same for you.

I know it kills me when my family of 5 to goes out to eat and I tally up in my head what 5 drinks cost . But I'd never tell them that.

But you ARE going there with him. Pointing out how much all of his drinks cost is going there. Returning a gift he picked out for you is going there.
 
Do you go to PF Changs at home or does that expense bother you, too? Honestly, I don't think Yak and Yeti is all that much more expensive. It might make you feel better to plan a trip to PF Changs this weekend, then cancel it and eat at home instead. Look! You just saved enough money to splurge and eat YnY while at Disney! :thumbsup2
 
You sound like me! We went through a really rough financial patch a couple of years ago and since then I have a hard time spending money on myself. DH is the one always telling me to get whatever it is that I've been drooling over - purse, shoes, Kindle Fire ;)

What has worked for me is joining reward sites - I get gift cards for everything I "have to have" at the moment. I booked Yak & Yeti for this next trip because I used points to get a gift card for it! I also got a job were I get tips, that is how I am paying for our trip - right now I am saving my tips for incidentals since everything else is paid for :cool1:. My paycheck goes into the checking account and my tips go into my WDW wristlet.

I don't do the whole spreadsheet but I have a Disney notebook with more research than necessary (especially since both DH and I were both cast members and know WDW inside and out!).
 
I can relate. I am a nerd about my spreadsheets, and can become a bit obsessive about counting every penny I think we'll need. Drinking at Disney can really add up.

This last trip I just gave DH a giftcard for $100 and told him to get whatever he wanted to drink. I didn't think about it talling up, for I already had built that into the budget. It was really relaxing, and by the time the giftcard ran out we were leaving the next day. :)
 
I've secretly returned gifts too, would never let him know though. So glad to hear someone else thinks the same sometimes!

I'm not sure I'm explaining myself well.... My DH goes without nothing he wants, and we do not fight or argue over any of this, although he knows how I feel. If I make a comment, and I don't always, he loves to say "I'm king around here" and we laugh at the ridiculousness of that and move on. I'm also ok with kids having splurges. I do not feel it's my place to micromanage others. I cannot splurge on myself though, probably because I'm the only one i feel ok with controlling, and I'm just sick of always doing the mental math on these types of things, even if I am going along with spending on them. That is what I'm wondering how to change. I can stop myself from saying something but I can't stop the feelings, even though I know it's extreme.

This is a better explanation of your situation. I am sort of there with you. I have no issues with DH buying his toys and don't think twice about getting the kids stuff. BUT when it comes to me, I just always find a better use for the money. There are some things that I really need and I just cannot bring myself to purchase them. First, I don't work and I tend to feel guilty at DH having to buy my stuff for me. I have worked in some way since I was 10 years old. Secondly, at this time of year I have a lot of expenses coming up. Christmas is going to be expensive and we host Thanksgiving for the single sailors that choose to come over. Thanksgiving can easily set me back $200-$500 depending on how many of them come over.

I will say that we are going to Disney in 20 days and this trip is totally for me. I really really need to get away. I have been very stressed out and just need the escape for my own mental health. The family could use the getaway too. But we already have tickets, are only going for 3 days, and it is a super budget trip. Total cost is only $750 for all four of us. I can't find another location for cheaper than that and I have been looking. I still feel guilty for asking to go and try to find some place cheaper. :blush:
 
Telling someone how much something costs the entire time they are trying
To enjoy it is just as bad or worse than telling
Them they can't have something. Way to ruin what they enjoy! I'm a water drinker too, but I'd never ruin sodas or drinks for my husband. It would be like him reminding me
How much my wool yarn costs, when I could make mittens and hats of cheap acrylic.

I don't think I said I remind him the entire time. I think I also specifically said that I don't nag and that my husband jokes about it. The point of my posting this question was to get tips on how I can feel better since I'm the one sacrificing and feeling bad about it ... Not how I can be a better wife. I'm not offended by this or the few other similar posts because I know they are based on presumptions and have no basis. My DH would laugh at these.
Thanks so much for those who have helped with the question!
 
I don't know if there really are any tips on how to just relax and enjoy. I think the fact that you recognize your control issue is important. I'm sure you and your husband joke about it as I do with mine (he is the frugal one in this relationship). I think when you find yourself saying no too much, you just have to step back and correct yourself. My husband looks the other way sometimes when I buy something that he considers unnecessary, and sometimes I just get the ice water. Just change your thoughts, that's the only tip you need.
 
Like the tips on letting DH pay for everything (may work, if I can stop the mental math, will definitely try this) or getting the DDP (at $200 or so a day for the 5 of us, this would kill me :sick:)

How much do you *plan* to spend each day for food for 5 people?

For the three of us, I budget $100/day. When DS was smaller and ate less and we bought fewer things at the parks, that was souvenir AND food budget combined. Nowadays it's just food. We are vegetarian (so we're not eating steaks with the cost associated with it) and DH and I often *want* to share entrees, but the $100 x howevermanyDays covers the lighter days and the character meal days over the course of our trip. That amount is going to be rising, though, since DS has such an appetite and is growing so fast.

With 5 people I would expect that your food budget would be about $200 anyway?
 
The biggest piece of advice I can give you as someone who works first hand with people in the park, your vacation will not turn out exactly how you plan. No matter how much you plan , plan, plan you will not stick to the plan 100%. If you want a wonton, eat a darn wonton. The best part about being a grown-up..no parents to tell ya no!
:D
 
I have to laugh at this sorta. DH was always buying me extravagant gifts (Gucci, Louis Vuitton, etc) and I always returned them because I felt guilty and thought it was excessive. Even though we are financially comfortable, I always felt like it was a waste.

Never realized that I was hurting his feelings because he wanted to do something nice for me. I think mentally because I grew up poor and my parents always fought about money, that I never want to go to there with him and its my way of protecting the relationship. Maybe its the same for you.

I know it kills me when my family of 5 to goes out to eat and I tally up in my head what 5 drinks cost . But I'd never tell them that.

Yes, I think this all comes from growing up poor, my parents fought all the time about money, neighbor bought us food, food stamps, WIC, etc. I'm also like the OP, and I meant to write back earlier today.

I once spoke to a rep from Suze Orman about this issue when I wrote into the show, but because I didn't fight with my hubby about it, they weren't interested. But it is so hard for me to spend money.

We have nearly seven figures in the bank and I wear ripped shorts. I tell myself it's because I am waiting to lose baby weight--which is true--and I have plenty in a smaller size. But I won't buy the bigger size to look nicer. I am trying to lose though. And I wanted to get myself a frozen yogurt and won't due to the price... I have been getting a little better recently with the spending. I bought $20 Lands End jeans since my last two pairs ripped after I wore them so much. And I do enjoy trips and spending on experiences. And I had my baby--which I've wanted for years and years--even if she means more college expenses, etc.

That said, my sister is getting married in Jamaica, and the expense for 5 of us is killing me and getting between us. It really makes me mad that someone else is choosing how I spend my money. I'm trying to get over it, really really hard, but it's so much and I wish she'd just save like I do and have her wedding here...

However, I heard about the male gymnastic Olympian who got a job and handed his mom the paycheck. I want to be like him.
 
I dated a guy with the same controlling issues over money. I just couldn't take it anymore. OP I'm glad you're trying to change before it does come to a crazy divorce!
This sounds horrible, so glad you got out of that. I am no where near that, but I'm still wanting to work on the issues I do have.

Do you go to PF Changs at home or does that expense bother you, too? Honestly, I don't think Yak and Yeti is all that much more expensive. It might make you feel better to plan a trip to PF Changs this weekend, then cancel it and eat at home instead. Look! You just saved enough money to splurge and eat YnY while at Disney! :thumbsup2
LOL! It does bother me to go and I would never suggest us going. We do go, maybe once or twice a year, but only at DH's insisting. It helps us that it is really no fun to go out to eat with our youngest son! We eat out maybe once a month or month and a half, and usually some place very casual and inexpensive.

You sound like me! We went through a really rough financial patch a couple of years ago and since then I have a hard time spending money on myself. DH is the one always telling me to get whatever it is that I've been drooling over - purse, shoes, Kindle Fire ;)

I had to laugh about the Kindle... I wanted an iPad but would never buy one or ask for one... didn't even want to mention it b/c I knew he'd go buy one for me. I bought one for DH for Christmas though, only to find Christmas Day that he bought me the same thing! I did take one of them back, and I really enjoy using "his" iPad!

I can relate. I am a nerd about my spreadsheets, and can become a bit obsessive about counting every penny I think we'll need. Drinking at Disney can really add up.

This last trip I just gave DH a giftcard for $100 and told him to get whatever he wanted to drink. I didn't think about it talling up, for I already had built that into the budget. It was really relaxing, and by the time the giftcard ran out we were leaving the next day. :)
I may do this for all the snacks/drinks. I don't deny the kids their snacks (within reason, I do set limits) but it does pain me to spend $4 on an ice cream, and I am famous for saying things like "wouldn't you rather have these goldfish crackers?" before saying yes! If daddy were buying it and I didn't have to track it out of our checking account, it may work!

This is a better explanation of your situation. I am sort of there with you. I have no issues with DH buying his toys and don't think twice about getting the kids stuff. BUT when it comes to me, I just always find a better use for the money. There are some things that I really need and I just cannot bring myself to purchase them. First, I don't work and I tend to feel guilty at DH having to buy my stuff for me. I have worked in some way since I was 10 years old. Secondly, at this time of year I have a lot of expenses coming up. Christmas is going to be expensive and we host Thanksgiving for the single sailors that choose to come over. Thanksgiving can easily set me back $200-$500 depending on how many of them come over.

I will say that we are going to Disney in 20 days and this trip is totally for me. I really really need to get away. I have been very stressed out and just need the escape for my own mental health. The family could use the getaway too. But we already have tickets, are only going for 3 days, and it is a super budget trip. Total cost is only $750 for all four of us. I can't find another location for cheaper than that and I have been looking. I still feel guilty for asking to go and try to find some place cheaper. :blush:

You do sound exactly like me. My sister is a sahm and she has the same guilt, but I don't think I would... the work I do with kids and the house is twice as hard as my paying job. So glad you are taking this trip, hope you enjoy it!!

I don't know if there really are any tips on how to just relax and enjoy. I think the fact that you recognize your control issue is important. I'm sure you and your husband joke about it as I do with mine (he is the frugal one in this relationship). I think when you find yourself saying no too much, you just have to step back and correct yourself. My husband looks the other way sometimes when I buy something that he considers unnecessary, and sometimes I just get the ice water. Just change your thoughts, that's the only tip you need.

Thanks, I will try. I have 6 months before the trip to practice this with some other things I have issues with, like haircuts and clothes.

How much do you *plan* to spend each day for food for 5 people?

For the three of us, I budget $100/day. When DS was smaller and ate less and we bought fewer things at the parks, that was souvenir AND food budget combined. Nowadays it's just food. We are vegetarian (so we're not eating steaks with the cost associated with it) and DH and I often *want* to share entrees, but the $100 x howevermanyDays covers the lighter days and the character meal days over the course of our trip. That amount is going to be rising, though, since DS has such an appetite and is growing so fast.

With 5 people I would expect that your food budget would be about $200 anyway?
It varies (I have a tentative plan on where we'll be each day and that determines how much we'll spend), but it's not $200 a day. Maybe I should just choose a figure like that and spend the next few months getting used to it, then it'll be a nice surprise if we don't use it. Right now it's like I'm challenging myself to stay under some arbitrary figure just for the sake of it. I think it would also help if I put cash in an envelope and give myself permission to spend as long as there is cash left... but then I fret because I'm not using the credit card to get reward dollars! Again, I know that is absurd because 1% is so little, but I hate using cash because of that.

Yes, I think this all comes from growing up poor, my parents fought all the time about money, neighbor bought us food, food stamps, WIC, etc. I'm also like the OP, and I meant to write back earlier today.

I once spoke to a rep from Suze Orman about this issue when I wrote into the show, but because I didn't fight with my hubby about it, they weren't interested. But it is so hard for me to spend money.

We have nearly seven figures in the bank and I wear ripped shorts. I tell myself it's because I am waiting to lose baby weight--which is true--and I have plenty in a smaller size. But I won't buy the bigger size to look nicer. I am trying to lose though. And I wanted to get myself a frozen yogurt and won't due to the price... I have been getting a little better recently with the spending. I bought $20 Lands End jeans since my last two pairs ripped after I wore them so much. And I do enjoy trips and spending on experiences. And I had my baby--which I've wanted for years and years--even if she means more college expenses, etc.

That said, my sister is getting married in Jamaica, and the expense for 5 of us is killing me and getting between us. It really makes me mad that someone else is choosing how I spend my money. I'm trying to get over it, really really hard, but it's so much and I wish she'd just save like I do and have her wedding here...

However, I heard about the male gymnastic Olympian who got a job and handed his mom the paycheck. I want to be like him.

I am just like this, although maybe not as bad with the clothes! We spend so much on kids' education and extra-curricular, vacations (but not the food!), etc... things I truly value. I hope you can "get over" the wedding costs, I'm sure you'd regret not being there, although it would pain me if I wasn't interested in going to Jamaica any way.

Thanks again everyone, I've gotten some good tips and encouragement, now it's probably just a matter of doing. Hope I can stick with it.
 
First, I don't work and I tend to feel guilty at DH having to buy my stuff for me. I have worked in some way since I was 10 years old.

this is an issue for me as well. Until I married dh, i had worked since I was 18 and solid for the last 23 years. I made my own way...and didn't have to account to anyone about how I spent my money. Now, however, I don't work and every penny I spend 'belongs' to my husband in my eyes. Mind you, I overcome this problem admirably by spending lots of money but I always feel guilty.
 
I don't think I said I remind him the entire time. I think I also specifically said that I don't nag and that my husband jokes about it. The point of my posting this question was to get tips on how I can feel better since I'm the one sacrificing and feeling bad about it ... Not how I can be a better wife. I'm not offended by this or the few other similar posts because I know they are based on presumptions and have no basis. My DH would laugh at these.
Thanks so much for those who have helped with the question!

Do you have an actual job that brings in money? Or have you made micromanaging your finances your job?
 
DH is that way at times. I'm frugal; he's cheap. We don't argue about it because for the most part he seldom turns his "cheap" eye in my direction, but he hates spending on himself. There are times when I will go out and buy something for him because I know he's going to cheap out and... Like shoes. He's on his feet for at least 75% of a typical day, but if I leave it up to him he'll balk at the price of a decent pair at the shoe store and go next door to Kmart instead. So I order his New Balance from 6pm.com (at a great price, of course, but still more than junk shoes cost) and he never knows how much I spent. We're both happier that way.
 














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