Anybody else think public pools are gross?

rayelias said:
When I was traveling in Egypt or Turkey oir Israel , I ate in places where ants were running on the table , or the kitchen was a women in front of a fire sitting on the floor. I refuse to miss a unique experience because of germs. ( I drink bottled water because this is where you can get very sick !)


It's a fallacy that we become less resistant to germs the more we sanitize against them.
..... By that logic, we should clean LESS so that we become more resistant to more germs!

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How do you KNOW that?
 
rayelias said:
When I was traveling in Egypt or Turkey oir Israel , I ate in places where ants were running on the table , or the kitchen was a women in front of a fire sitting on the floor. I refuse to miss a unique experience because of germs. ( I drink bottled water because this is where you can get very sick !)




It's a fallacy that we become less resistant to germs the more we sanitize against them. By that logic, we should clean LESS so that we become more resistant to more germs!

2-300 years ago, before we know about the improtance of sanitization, life expectancy was HALF of what it is today!

And, your comment about other countries and their cleanliness... let's compare today's life expectancy in the US & Canada to Egypt or Turkey. I'll take FDA standards anyday over those of other countries.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddles masses yearning to breathe free", but you can keep your germs, your bug feces, your dissentary, and all the other diseases that go with inadequate sterilization and cleanliness.

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I am not saying that we should stop sanatize, just that we do it too much. When I was sailing the Nile , all the guide books said dont ouch the water since we are not immunize to the bacteries there and you can get really sick , and you can be sure I did not touch the Nile !


And we should be cleaning , but I do feel we are obsesd with germs. This thread and the one about cleaning the whole hotel room when you check in are good exemple of that.

Santization IS one of the major reasons for our life expectency , but other thing enter when you compare to other countries like acces to treatment when sick , poverty ( Egypt is a third world country) etc.
 
ok, had to bump this up with this news piece from today!


ALBANY, N.Y. (Aug. 18) - Gastrointestinal illness possibly stemming from a state-run water playground has sickened more than 700 people, mostly children and teenagers, the state Health Department said Thursday.

"The numbers are growing significantly," said department spokesman Rob Kenny.


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Seneca Lake Park's Sprayground, which has water jets shooting up from a hardtop surface, was closed after tests showed the tank system that feeds the water jets was contaminated with a common waterborne disease called cryptosporidiosis.

The disease is highly contagious and can cause diarrhea, nausea and fever that can last for weeks. It usually goes away without treatment in healthy individuals, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Five of the illnesses from the Sprayground have so far been confirmed as cryptosporidiosis.

No deaths have been associated with the outbreak, and many of the people connected with the outbreak have already recovered, Kenny said.

The Sprayground averages more than a thousand visitors a day in August. It is in the Finger Lakes region, about 45 miles southwest of Syracuse.

The water is monitored several times a day for proper chlorine levels and tested monthly for bacteria like E. coli, said Wendy Gibson, spokeswoman for the state parks department.

The Health Department at first temporarily shut down the Sprayground on Tuesday after receiving more than 100 reported cases of illness dating to early July. After the public was notified of the outbreak, the number of reported illnesses jumped to 746.


08/18/05 21:10 EDT
 
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/19/water.illness/index.html
From Debra Goldschmidt
CNN


Saturday, August 20, 2005; Posted: 8:20 a.m. EDT (12:20 GMT)


NEW YORK (CNN) -- Nearly 1,800 people from 20 New York counties have reported symptoms of a gastrointestinal illness related to a water attraction at Seneca Lake State Park in upstate New York, according to the New York State Department of Health and New York State Parks Department.

The attraction has been closed down for the rest of the summer.

Thirteen cases have been confirmed by state and private labs as cryptosporidiosis, a diarrheal disease caused by the parasite Cryptosporidium. Its tough outer shell allows the parasite to resist disinfectants such as chlorine.

While the most common symptom is diarrhea, other symptoms include dehydration, stomach cramps, weight loss, fever, nausea and vomiting. Symptoms typically begin within days of exposure and usually last for two weeks, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

While the CDC is not involved in the ongoing investigation, New York's health department is consulting with them.

Jeffrey Hammond, spokesman for the New York State Department of Health, told CNN on Friday, "We have linked this gastrointestinal outbreak to the Sprayground attraction, and it has been closed down for the year."

The State Parks Department temporarily closed the Sprayground of water jets and sprinklers Monday as soon as the state health department notified it of reports of illness, according to Wendy Gibson, spokeswoman for the State Parks Department.

By then at least two departments had launched an investigation into the illness' cause.

Tests confirmed the parasite's presence in two storage tanks that supply water to the 11,000 square-foot attraction.

Tests determined that a nearby lake is not contaminated and can remain open.

Reports of illness date as far back as June. "Many people who reported illness have fully recovered," Hammond said.

For people with symptoms
Anyone who has visited the park since late July and is having symptoms is urged to contact the local health department or a physician. Family members and close contacts of people who have been ill and are experiencing symptoms should do the same.

People who have symptoms are advised not to swim in recreational water -- including swimming pools, hot tubs and lakes -- until two weeks after the symptoms have ended. This advice is to prevent further spread of the disease.

Health care workers, day-care staff, and food workers with symptoms are urged to stay home from work until they feel better.

The health department also is reminding people to wash their hands with soap and water after going to the bathroom, changing diapers, and before eating and preparing food.

There are no known cases reported in other states.

Outbreaks of the disease are not unusual in late summer months and are sometimes associated with community swimming pools.

One way to prevent illness is to not swallow water when swimming or wading in a recreational setting.

Cryptosporidium is one of the most common causes of waterborne disease in humans in the United States, according to the CDC.

In April 1993, 403,000 Milwaukee-area residents and visitors were stricken, according to the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources. The outbreak was linked to inadequate treatment of drinking water from Lake Michigan
 

I saw that article this morning on cnn.com, and I thought of this thread! OK, so maybe my sister and my old neighbor are right about public pools and water parks after all :crazy2:
 














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