Any Rumors on Magic Band Testing.

[rteetz]

I think the biggest problem is that people are thinking too narrow when it comes to the Magic Bands. One thing to remember is that the MB was done to INCREASE money spent in the park first and foremost. Everyone is just associating it with FP+ and nothing else. Right now the MB is in charge of: - Room Key - Park Entry - Credit Card - Rides - Dinning Reservations - Dinning Plans It has already showed that it speeds up entry into the park for the most part when compared to the paper ticket.

BINGO! Disney has already said that MBs have increased spending and that was when testing was only at about five resorts. Disney is here to make money that's how you run a business your not here to please everyone. If people complain about 3 FPs but they are still making more money every year because of the system I don't see a change. Now if they lost money due to the system that would be different but Disney isn't going to do anything when they're making money off of it.

 

[rteetz]

Yes this is what Disney set out to accomplish. However, you are wrong when you say there has been a positive response. Unless that is if you get your info from the internet, because as you know, if it is on the internet, it must be true. The reason Iger and others are angry is because 40% of the people from September til now are complaining. When people get a snack, their account is being charged, rather then the dining credit being taken away. Cast Members were being scolded, until they saw for themselves that the correct buttons were being pressed by cashiers, but the bands weren simply not working. 100's of apologies have been given to Cast Members as a result of the negative memos and warnings issued to their employees for no reason at all. At check outs in the resorts, that is when 40% of the people have been freaking out after realizing they have 20 snack credits left, but charged 100 bucks from their account. Some people not even realizing this until they got home. I am telling you all this as a fact, Iger and his associates are crapping their pants. Their anticipation for errors and complaints as the holidays and peak season begins have scared them to death. This entire system has not been as positive as you read. As for the the fast passes. Mark my words, non resort guests will be getting screwed. Floridians and resort guests will not have to worry about lines after testing is over.

How are they getting screwed they will get FP when it rolls out it's just how will they get it and what will it consist of. There has to be some perk to staying on Disney property and this is the way they're going with it. EMH hours are getting shorter and I think they are going to focus on this system more as a perk to Disney resort guests but they are at this moment offering swan and dolphin guests FP+ the only difference is they don't get MB and have to schedule the FPs in the park.

 

[rteetz]

And that's a bad thing? As an International Business major in college this is seeming more and more genius, especially when you consider that the majority of Guests are reacting positively to the changes (as opposed to a potential majority of the sliver of visitors who use the DisBoards).

Couldn't agree more I've only heard on the boards that everyone is complaining everyone doesn't like it if everyone didn't like it no one would use it and Disney would lose money which the opposite is happening.

 

[vadrwilntwrmickyears]

First off people in groups will go and get multiple FPs for their group say mom will go get some then uncle bill will some and than aunt jill will go get some for the entire group I've heard several stories of people getting a bunch of FPs for themselves hence the hoarding. Also I have a friend who is a DVC member and they get immediate FPs no waiting for the hour that's on the ticket because that's a perk of DVC. But they have an in and will get a ton of FPs for ride and have so many sometimes that they won't even use most of them. There are many people out there who find glitches to go and hoard FPs it's not that hard to do. This new system gives three to everyone and that's fair I think heck I don't think I've ever used more than 3 FPs in a day.

Sorry, but you are 100% wrong. Last year, my wife and her friend tried to do that early in the morning for Toy Story Mania. When they put everyone's ticket into the machine, ours came back and clearly stated, not eligible with a code on the ticket. When they called a cast member over, the cast member saw the code and said 6 of these people have not even used their ticket to get through the gate, therefore cant get a fast pass. So all the hoarding is 100% false.

 

[rteetz]

Sorry, but you are 100% wrong. Last year, my wife and her friend tried to do that early in the morning for Toy Story Mania. When they put everyone's ticket into the machine, ours came back and clearly stated, not eligible with a code on the ticket. When they called a cast member over, the cast member saw the code and said 6 of these people have not even used their ticket to get through the gate, therefore cant get a fast pass. So all the hoarding is 100% false.

I guess my biggest problem is if you can't plan around 3 FPs then I guess that's your problem I only use 3 maybe. And like I said I have a DVC who gets FPs all the time doesn't even go to the FP distribution thing she goes to her DVC.

 

[vadrwilntwrmickyears]

How are they getting screwed they will get FP when it rolls out it's just how will they get it and what will it consist of. There has to be some perk to staying on Disney property and this is the way they're going with it. EMH hours are getting shorter and I think they are going to focus on this system more as a perk to Disney resort guests but they are at this moment offering swan and dolphin guests FP+ the only difference is they don't get MB and have to schedule the FPs in the park.

What he is insinuating is that Fast Passes, after the testing is over, will only be for resort guests and the locals.

I just did some research myself and when you have a regular ticket from staying off resort, the Disney Experience website clearly tells people that they can temporarily link their ticket to my Disney Experience. Temporarily is the key word.

When testing is over, I can see Disney awarding Resort guests and the locals, by giving them all access to fast pass rides and having the other people who stay off resort wait in line. Like written from the other person, this will increase the revenue of people staying at the resorts.

 

[vadrwilntwrmickyears]

I guess my biggest problem is if you can't plan around 3 FPs then I guess that's your problem I only use 3 maybe. And like I said I have a DVC who gets FPs all the time doesn't even go to the FP distribution thing she goes to her DVC.

If a poll was taken, I guarantee 90 % of the people here will say 3 fast passes are not enough. And thats excluding the Senior Citizens or people who don't like the rides due to getting sick from voting.

 

[rteetz]

What he is insinuating is that Fast Passes, after the testing is over, will only be for resort guests and the locals. I just did some research myself and when you have a regular ticket from staying off resort, the Disney Experience website clearly tells people that they can temporarily link their ticket to my Disney Experience. Temporarily is the key word. When testing is over, I can see Disney awarding Resort guests and the locals, by giving them all access to fast pass rides and having the other people who stay off resort wait in line. Like written from the other person, this will increase the revenue of people staying at the resorts.

Excuse me I'm not insulting anyone or anything I'm stating that Disney is here to make money and get people into their resorts and their parks which they are doing so giving them these certain perks will do that and make them more money. That's how you run a business. What does linking your ticket to my Disney experience have to do with this anyways. Linking that ticket can't get you a magic band or FP+ you need a resort reservation for that at this time. If Disney was ready to let everyone use this system it wouldn't be in testing still. Disney knows there are glitches and that people are having problems that's why it's not rolled out to everyone. Once the system is complete everyone that steps into the park with a ticket will be able to use MM+ and FP+.

 

[rteetz]

If a poll was taken, I guarantee 90 % of the people here will say 3 fast passes are not enough. And thats excluding the Senior Citizens or people who don't like the rides due to getting sick from voting.

Yes here because the dis boards include every single Disney traveler or fan in the world. If you plan right you can do it with three fast passes. I went last summer and only used three my entire vacation. Which was seven days. I never waited more than 50 minutes and that was for soarin. I used one for TSM, splash mountain, and expedition Everest that was it nothing more majority of my wait times were like 20 minutes which to wait in line in July is really not bad.

 

[vadrwilntwrmickyears]

Excuse me I'm not insulting anyone or anything I'm stating that Disney is here to make money and get people into their resorts and their parks which they are doing so giving them these certain perks will do that and make them more money. That's how you run a business. What does linking your ticket to my Disney experience have to do with this anyways. Linking that ticket can't get you a magic band or FP+ you need a resort reservation for that at this time. If Disney was ready to let everyone use this system it wouldn't be in testing still. Disney knows there are glitches and that people are having problems that's why it's not rolled out to everyone. Once the system is complete everyone that steps into the park with a ticket will be able to use MM+ and FP+.

You misread the quote. You commented on the Mouse Expert and then I commented on that thread. The Mouse Expert was insinuating that the off site guests will get screwed with only the locals and resort guests having free reign.

 

[rteetz]

You misread the quote. You commented on the Mouse Expert and then I commented on that thread. The Mouse Expert was insinuating that the off site guests will get screwed with only the locals and resort guests having free reign.

Sorry my bad I'm in agreement with that they will not get screwed

 

[vadrwilntwrmickyears]

Yes here because the dis boards include every single Disney traveler or fan in the world. If you plan right you can do it with three fast passes. I went last summer and only used three my entire vacation. Which was seven days. I never waited more than 50 minutes and that was for soarin. I used one for TSM, splash mountain, and expedition Everest that was it nothing more majority of my wait times were like 20 minutes which to wait in line in July is really not bad.

Its all when you go. I can speak for the entire peak season traveler, because that is when I go and unfortunelty, it is set in stone every single year. March/April. Until you see the park crowds at this time of year, you cant even begin to imagine it. My family and friends get by, due to fast passes. With the wait times we have seen, which is in the 200 minute range, there is no way to plan around that, plus have reservations to accommodate a dining plan, that will charge you ten bucks for showing up late now.

 

[rteetz]

Its all when you go. I can speak for the entire peak season traveler, because that is when I go and unfortunelty, it is set in stone every single year. March/April. Until you see the park crowds at this time of year, you cant even begin to imagine it. My family and friends get by, due fast passes. With the wait times we have seen, which is in the 200 minute range, there is no way to plan around that, plus have reservations to accommodate a dining plan, that will charge you ten bucks for showing up late now.

Ok I understand I'm just saying I am able to get by only with the three. And we are only Able to go in July and August.

 

[ChipnDale79]

Ok I understand I'm just saying I am able to get by only with the three. And we are only Able to go in July and August.

But your touring plan is different than others, for me, 3 isn't enough.

Because it matches your touring plan doesnt make the system right. Your money isn't better than mine.

This entire thing is really annoying to me, what it does is take more options away for me, therefore the value of my vacation goes down.

I don't like it when a company takes services away while not reducing their price, its effectively a "price increase".

 

[rteetz]

But your touring plan is different than others, for me, 3 isn't enough. Because it matches your touring plan doesnt make the system right. Your money isn't better than mine. This entire thing is really annoying to me, what it does is take more options away for me, therefore the value of my vacation goes down. I don't like it when a company takes services away while not reducing their price, its effectively a "price increase".

Didn't say it is my guess is Disney has looked into this and thought what would be a good number I guess three was it.

 

[vadrwilntwrmickyears]

But your touring plan is different than others, for me, 3 isn't enough.

Because it matches your touring plan doesnt make the system right. Your money isn't better than mine.

This entire thing is really annoying to me, what it does is take more options away for me, therefore the value of my vacation goes down.

I don't like it when a company takes services away while not reducing their price, its effectively a "price increase".

Exactly right.

I get 6 fast passes per day. My kids love different rides. If I let one kid go on Test Trek, I have to get a fast pass for Soaring because that is my other kids favorite ride. But Now, There are Tiers. I can only get one fast pass for either ride. Meaning, one of my kids will be very sad now, because there is no way I can stand in a line for 1-2 hours. That is the problem Disney has caused, for the first time in several years, I have to tell one of my children that we cant go on the ride today, but maybe next time. However, I still just spent 4500 on a vacation.

And I am sick of people here saying this system has been well received. Because I know several people who have gone and they all say it absolutely sucks. People say that it is only on these boards were it gets negative reviews, but please tell me where you see the positive reviews. Is it from the Orlando Sentinel (owned by Disney)?

 

[Viva Las Disney]

Look at what the bands provide. Nothing benefits the guests, it's all about their bank.

I agree the bank is the motive but totally disagree that the bands don't provide anything to the guests.

I used them last week and loved the convenience they provide. Not having to worry about little things like forgetting my room key, losing a paper fp, losing a park ticket, not having to pull out my wallet every time I wanted a snack, etc. I thought the MB's made my whole trip much more convenient and stress free, I don't have a single negative thing to say about MB's.

FP on the other hand, I really hope they end up using FP+ as a perk for resort guests while keeping some form of FP- active for everyone (including resort guests). Personally I liked the convenience of prescheduling FP+ for the e-tickets but also liked being able to pull a paper FP for unforeseen issues like when EE single rider line didn't open (the only paper FP I pulled all week). FP+ has huge potential to be an onsite perk but if they get rid of FP- completely I think it'll end up a negative in many peoples eyes.

 

[indylaw99]

I am really anxious to see how the 3 FPs work out for us being holiday time (the week before Christmas). I am hopeful that combining them with waiting in just a couple of lines will be better than what it would have been without them.

 

[mjstaceyuofm]

And that's a bad thing? As an International Business major in college this is seeming more and more genius, especially when you consider that the majority of Guests are reacting positively to the changes (as opposed to a potential majority of the sliver of visitors who use the DisBoards).

Where are you getting your information? Majority of guests? C'mon... If that were the case you wouldn't be hearing all of the reports (from fairly reputable sources) that upper management is hot about implementation, the sky-rocketing costs, the NEGATIVE customer feedback, etc.

The MB and the MDE concept are really great - don't get me wrong - but the implementation has been terrible and not fully vetted out. And the FP+ implementation to date has been the number one target of people's ire towards the system.

 

[rteetz]

Exactly right. I get 6 fast passes per day. My kids love different rides. If I let one kid go on Test Trek, I have to get a fast pass for Soaring because that is my other kids favorite ride. But Now, There are Tiers. I can only get one fast pass for either ride. Meaning, one of my kids will be very sad now, because there is no way I can stand in a line for 1-2 hours. That is the problem Disney has caused, for the first time in several years, I have to tell one of my children that we cant go on the ride today, but maybe next time. However, I still just spent 4500 on a vacation. And I am sick of people here saying this system has been well received. Because I know several people who have gone and they all say it absolutely sucks. People say that it is only on these boards were it gets negative reviews, but please tell me where you see the positive reviews. Is it from the Orlando Sentinel (owned by Disney)?

There are plenty of people on these boards that are on both sides it's all how your family vacations everyone is different.