Any rumors for PAP again?

[Cbowman]

I'm still kicking myself for not knowing about the PAP offer earlier this year. Has anyone heard any rumors about another offer like this? Our Disneyland passes expired on May 1st. However, this year we'll be going to both WDW and DL several times.

I've got some time before our next trip, just wondering if there have been any rumors out there!

 

[erionm]

Depending on how many days you are spending at both WDW & DL, you may want to consider getting a Premier Passport. The price is currently $849 plus applicable FL sales tax and there are no discounts available.

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/disney-premier-passport-ticket/

 

[drusba]

As far as the Premium Annual Pass for WDW goes, there is nothing to indicate that they intend to offer them again at a large discount like the $399 promotion that ended 12/31/12. In Feb, they surveyed members to see if the pass actually made them plan more trips than they usually take in a year, but nothing has been said since

 

[CarolMN]

I believe the $399 deal was offered because Disney noticed DVC members were spending less time in the parks and going off site more often. In other words, revenue from DVC members was decreasing.

If the $399 pass changes that pattern (to favor Disney, of course), I think it is very possible that the deal will be offered again. Don't think the decision will be made until at least next December and maybe later, since members who took advantage of the deal have until 12/31/2013 to activate their passes.

Above is pure speculation on my part. I have no inside info, just a hunch based on many years in the business world.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

I believe the $399 deal was offered because Disney noticed DVC members were spending less time in the parks and going off site more often. In other words, revenue from DVC members was decreasing.

If the $399 pass changes that pattern (to favor Disney, of course), I think it is very possible that the deal will be offered again. Don't think the decision will be made until at least next December and maybe later, since members who took advantage of the deal have until 12/31/2013 to activate their passes.

Above is pure speculation on my part. I have no inside info, just a hunch based on many years in the business world.

I think that's about as good of an answer as anyone could speculate.

 

[Cbowman]

Thanks everyone. I think your right in considering a PP anyway. We have 4 trips scheduled right now, (3) DL and (1) WDW. But, the WDW trip is a full 7 days. I'm pretty sure it would pay for itself rather quickly.

 

[erionm]

As for taxes on the Premier Passport, since FL taxes theme park tickets and CA does not, Disney's solution is to charge FL tax (Orange County FL = 6.5%) on half of the purchase price.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

As for taxes on the Premier Passport, since FL taxes theme park tickets and CA does not, Disney's solution is to charge FL tax (Orange County FL = 6.5%) on half of the purchase price.

That is really interesting. I would have thought that since it was sold in its entirety in FL, the entire face value would have been subject to FL tax.

 

[moredisneyplease]

I believe the $399 deal was offered because Disney noticed DVC members were spending less time in the parks and going off site more often. In other words, revenue from DVC members was decreasing.

If the $399 pass changes that pattern (to favor Disney, of course), I think it is very possible that the deal will be offered again. Don't think the decision will be made until at least next December and maybe later, since members who took advantage of the deal have until 12/31/2013 to activate their passes.

Above is pure speculation on my part. I have no inside info, just a hunch based on many years in the business world.

Nicely said and now that you've said it I have looked at our DVC patterns for the past few years and put myself in to the category of avoiding the parks!! doing nonpark trips had become a "thing" and now that we purchased those passes (our first use will be July 16th) I've already planned another two trips before those passes expire. Keep it coming Disney!

 

[luckyman_apd]

We definitely planned more trips because of it. Two trips we added because of it. It was only slightly more to get the pass over MYW tickets for the planned trip so it was a no brainer for us. Added a trip next Dec to activate them but now we are going in August too to squeeze a few more days out of them.

 

[tjkraz]

I believe the $399 deal was offered because Disney noticed DVC members were spending less time in the parks and going off site more often. In other words, revenue from DVC members was decreasing.

If the $399 pass changes that pattern (to favor Disney, of course), I think it is very possible that the deal will be offered again. Don't think the decision will be made until at least next December and maybe later, since members who took advantage of the deal have until 12/31/2013 to activate their passes.

Above is pure speculation on my part. I have no inside info, just a hunch based on many years in the business world.

That's a sensible conclusion.

I'll take it a step further and guess that there has been an increase in point borrowing this year. Throughout the 2013 calendar year there have been reports of resorts filling up even earlier than anticipated. One likely cause is owners borrowing points to load-up on trips in 2013, and make the most of their discounted PAPs.

As such, I would guess that the offer will not reappear until at least 2014. If owners are borrowing points in greater numbers, they won't have the resources available next year to maintain the current trend.

Additionally, special incentives like that tend to have the greatest impact when they are not offered on any consistent basis. In 2012, Disney made a lot of impulse sales to owners who bought both current passes and future-use vouchers, anticipating (or fearing) that it was a one-off special. If they give any signs of establishing a trend, the habit changes to one of "eh, I'll just wait for the next special."

If the PAP price was a trial balloon to see how DVC spending changes, the logical course is to let things play out for a couple of years and see how much of a lasting impression it leaves. Then they could look at trying to jump-start spending again in 2-3 years.

 

[RCharnay]

We're doing four trips next year. That's a first for us. We are saving some points from this year and borrowing a few from the next year to make it happen. I'm sure well get a TIW card. We are certainly not saving money. In fact, we're probably spending three times as much BUT I think we are accomplishing more with the money and using it well for so,e memorable vacations. Then, well take a year off from Disney and then start planning the next round.

 

[bumbershoot]

That is really interesting. I would have thought that since it was sold in its entirety in FL, the entire face value would have been subject to FL tax.

They are sold in CA, too, though. So it makes sense that they split it.

 

[TisBit]

I believe the $399 deal was offered because Disney noticed DVC members were spending less time in the parks and going off site more often. In other words, revenue from DVC members was decreasing.

If the $399 pass changes that pattern (to favor Disney, of course), I think it is very possible that the deal will be offered again. Don't think the decision will be made until at least next December and maybe later, since members who took advantage of the deal have until 12/31/2013 to activate their passes.

Above is pure speculation on my part. I have no inside info, just a hunch based on many years in the business world.

I agree, they have to see some kind of return on investment. We did add a trip to WDW because we had the passes vs waiting for next year. We also visited the water parks which we hadn't done for years and will do it again this summer. Unfortunately, like many DVC members, we don't spend lots of money at WDW and are pretty frugal (especially since I am out of work right now).

 

[crocko]

We weren't going to return until 2014, but this deal made us re-evaluate our plans and now we'll be going both in fall 2013 and then about 10-11 months later in 2014.