Any other WDW veterans feeling like newbies and too tired to learn the new ropes?

Lora

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I used to be a big planner for WDW. I had color-coded spreadsheets and schedules with a LOT of detail. I loved reading and researching to learn as much as I could to plan trips. After doing that for many years, I got to the point where I didn't really need to plan much any more and that also was great. I would just get updates on the new attractions and keep up-to-date on the latest fast pass strategy.

Now, I just don't think I have the time or energy to get up to speed on everything that has changed. I need a veteran's recap on what has changed and the maybe the 5 most important things I need to do to prepare for our March trip to BLT (DVC). Who wants to help? :P

Already know about ... masks, park reservations, park hopping...and have tried to keep up with the "just back & trip report thread".
 
I was never a by the minute planner.
I had a RD plan, ADR's, and FP+'s and the in betweens were flexible.
I'm not too stressed/tired by the changes. I'm just keeping up with them so I'm not caught off guard and I know a lot can change between now and the time I decide to go back.
It seems like right now as long as you have your park reservations and ADR's there's not as much planning that needs to go into it so my advice is to just go with the flow on your March visit.
 
I'm just going to pay $15 or whatever it is now and subscribe to touringplans.com for my next trip WDW. They keep up on everything and have always made it easy for me to key in what I want to do at the park, let me know the best way to do it, and keep me up to date on stuff. It is important to go back into plans even as late as a week before your trip to get updates from them about stuff in case things have changed. You can even do that night before and with the app even at the park.

When there were paper fastpasses, they would say when to grab one and later when to use it (like clock work - didn't even have to think about it) - what made sense to fit in between. When there were advance FP reservations, they would tell me what ones to try to get, have me key them in, and in some cases tell me not to even bother with what I had and I'd change them to something else. One time with their advice I only bothered getting two. I usually only do two Disney parks or so per trip FYI too. Sometimes based on estimated wait times the plans would give me for attractions, we'd decide to skip certain things we were thinking about doing. On the personalized plans (I usually start with one of there customized plans, add things not on the plan I am interested in that aren't on for example the one day adult best attractions plan that we really like, take off things on the plan I am not interested in, put in my thoughts for meals for a particular date, optimize, maybe move the order and do a refresh. With the refresh I see expected waits and sometimes decide to eliminate stuff (maybe I had too much stuff vs. time, day might look too tight, or maybe line waits for too many things are longer than I like). With this I can play around with stuff and find taking certain rides with long waits that I didn't care about doing and re-doing the plan came up with something that looked like a great day, way more doable and fun for the day ( I build some slack in too and don't hesitate to deviate and change on the fly). Here is an example of something the plans helped me to decide to skip: Peter Pan at the MK, not an important enough ride for me to waste a fastpass on, too long a wait to make the ride worthwhile, took that out of my plan. I usually do that with 7DMT too (expect one trip when I wanted to try it as I had never done it). That really opened things up and meant shorter lines for everything else on my plan. With the plans I get a good idea of what to expect in terms of lines and play around with plans to keep lines short enough to my liking.

I have been using the their book (manual plans before) and later the computer program, and the app too since the early 80s (almost 40 years). It's something inexpensive and fun for a planner like me that helps me make the most of expensive Disney park days. Do note that I almost always stay offsite, etc. too, so don't usually have the earlier opportunities to get fastpasses. I often in the past have traveled at busy times too, out of necessity (school schedules). If possible I avoid days with extra magic morning hours when Disney had those, etc. They report to me how early they are usually letting people in and how early to get to the parks (great for me a morning person who likes being up early and being one of the first people in the parks). DS loves doing the planning with me (planning for us is almost as fun as going to the parks and really gets us fired up about the trip.) The subscription lasts for a year, so for example I will subscribe again this April for planning by March 2022 trip. This might not be for everyone, but DS and I love this tool.

Christmas of 2019 without doing any other research the subscription (nicely summarized advice) helped me with everything I needed to know about handling that new queue system for Rise of the Resistance, and we had a great time at DHS on a crowd 10 level day (just so helpful). The planning tool keeps me up to date on park opening hours. They have ride wait time app that is more accurate than Disney's to that we have found to be helpful that is included with the subscription.

I like it that they have descriptions of all the rides and ratings by age group. This is really helpful for new stuff I haven't done before and deciding if I want to try the new attraction or not.

They keep up with everything, so I don't have too and all I have to do is read what they say (one stop shopping).
 
They have twisted and tangled and overcontrolled things so much at WDW now that I don't even do the planning for our trips anymore, and it's been years since we've gone because of it. We're really debating whether its worth it to go any time soon.
 

Well hopefully it will be low wait times, so the need for a plan (other that park reservations) isn't really needed. We're just going to rope drop (front of line is the plan) go for the big ride (7D) and then wing the rest
 
Now, I just don't think I have the time or energy to get up to speed on everything that has changed. I need a veteran's recap on what has changed and the maybe the 5 most important things I need to do to prepare for our March trip to BLT (DVC). Who wants to help? :P

Already know about ... masks, park reservations, park hopping...and have tried to keep up with the "just back & trip report thread".
Here's my try at some of the "most important things you need to know before you go", beyond the masks, temperature checks, park hopping, etc. changes that you already know:
  1. Rise of the Resistance Boarding Groups go incredibly fast, typically in less than 10 seconds. (These are released at 7 AM and 1 PM.) Using My Disney Experience on your smart phone, practice from home multiple times before you go.
  2. The parks typically have been opening a bit earlier than the published hours. Disney's Hollywood Studios seems to be consistently opening about 30 minutes before the published hours.
  3. Most Table Service restaurants are running at reduced capacity. Dining reservations are harder to book than normal. Book your reservations at the 60-day window. But also keep an eye open as you get closer. Due to COVID-19, there have been more than the usual number of last-minute cancellations.
  4. Restaurants that used to offer buffets now serve their meals family-style. Also, many restaurants have eliminated their less-expensive lunchtime menus (e.g. Be Our Guest and Liberty Tree Tavern) and replaced their lunchtime menus with more expensive (often much more expensive) dinnertime menus.
  5. A handful of restaurants at the Magic Kingdom (e.g. Be Our Guest) and Disney's Hollywood Studios (e.g. SciFi Dine-In) are accepting reservations for up to 1 hour after park closing.
  6. Mobile ordering is the way to go for Quick Service restaurants. Disney has gotten very good at this. Make sure you have the My Disney Experience app on your phone so you can use this.
  7. The lines for attractions are physically long due to social distancing but they tend to move quickly. In general, the wait times are many minutes less than the posted wait times.
  8. The security checks are a lot faster now, if you understand the tricks. The #1 thing to do is hold out in front of you at arm's length anything that will set these off. (Visualize walking like Frankenstein's monster.) This is especially true for metal containers, umbrellas, and eyeglass cases. (For some reason, even non-metal eyeglass cases give the sensors problems.)
  9. Wait times to get on the Skyliner are terrible in the morning. Nearly all Skyliner Resorts (e.g. Art of Animation) also run buses. Use the bus, if you are in a hurry.
  10. Onsite Guests no longer receive complementary Magic Bands. Rather than pay for new ones, your old Magic Bands will still work. If you don't have a Magic Band, then you'll get the old credit card sized plastic ticket for park entrance.
  11. There are no parades or nighttime shows at the moment. There are small pop-up parades, with schedules that are intentionally not published. (Disney does not want people bunching up ahead of time.) Typically, you'll see a character or two drive by in a single vehicle or float.
  12. There are no character meet & greets. You'll only see characters at a distance, for example, waving from a balcony.
 
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I"m not sure why this post got moved to the community sub-forum. I was specifically looking for planning input, not just starting a conversation. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose for the main forum and this one.
 
They have twisted and tangled and overcontrolled things so much at WDW now that I don't even do the planning for our trips anymore, and it's been years since we've gone because of it. We're really debating whether its worth it to go any time soon.

It was a tough call for me, but I have my AP and DVC points, so I want to use them. I hope you're able to get a trip in sometime when you can enjoy it and not feel stressed.
 
Here's my try at some of the "most important things you need to know before you go", beyond the masks, temperature checks, park hopping, etc. changes that you already know:

Onsite Guests no longer receive complementary Magic Bands. Rather than pay for new ones, your old Magic Bands will still work. If you don't have a Magic Band, then you can use the old credit card sized plastic ticket for park entrance.

Lots of great info. there. Thanks for taking the time to share that. Much of it is helpful, but this is the one that I had not read about before your post. I'll have to see if I can dig up my old bands.
 
If you look at the official Disney website, they provide current/accurate information about what you need to know. There is no need to pay a 3rd party for information that is publically available.

Some people enjoy planning their Disney trip by the minute, we don't and have never done that. No amount of advance planning will reduce the number of other people there. We like to vacation as a way to relax and get away from rigid plans/structure compared to what it is like going to work doing a job.
 
I have been three times since they reopened, staying at BLT on DVC points for the first stay back in July. As far as planning, I have always been a planner on Disney trips starting in the early 80's with the Unofficial Guide plans. In Feb. I took a 6 day trip with less than 12 hours notice and didn't have time to plan anything. Previous experience and a few hastily made dining and park pass reservations pretty much took care of it.

One thing that is worth researching a bit is how the social distancing measures on rides has affected capactiy and therefore wait times. The priorities of what to ride ride at rope drop have changed a bit. One example would be boat rides which have much less capacity. Pirates, Small World, and expecially Navi River Journey have longer waits. Maybe just sign on to MDE at various times of the day before your trip and check wait times.

Another thing that can slow you down a bit is the wait for an elevator at your resort, since they are saying max four people or one family in an elevator. It wasn't too bad at BLT, but in the main building of Contemporary it could be longer. I had no problems with elevator waits at the Poly or at Yacht.

When we walked to MK that walkway had its own temperature screening. Super quick.

We really enjoyed Chef Mickey with fresher food and no buffet. We also had a good dinner at the Wave.

Be prepared to wait to get into shops in the parks if you shop later in the day. They have closed some of the doors and designated which doors are in and which are out. They are limiting capacity inside. Its not so easy to just weave through a shop on your way out of the park.

You have plenty of experience and with a bit of research and some ADR's and Park Pass reservations you will be fine. Have a great time!
 



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