Any other DISers trying to concieve? Reread OP for the QOTD!

[Minnesota!]

Hey gals -

Lisa - UGH what a PITA nurse! I am sorry the beta was negative. Do you chart? Do you have a chart we could look at?

Carla - you always have the best comebacks! Bet you are a riot to go out drinking with, LOL!

Jen - Ooooh - feeling like dirt is a good thing! I hope this next week goes fast for you and that the end is a BFP!!

Michelle - have a great time in WDW - LUCKY!!! Hope you come back with great news!

I got my third beta back today - 4154! Better than I could have hoped for! On the 9th it was 198, the 14th it was 1266 and now the 17th it was 4154! I have a u/s next week! I am PRAYING we see a healthy beating heart. I can't wait!

 

[LisaB]

She said this while giving me the results on the phone. It wasn't my nurse that works with my doctor. After the progesterone test they will talk to the doctor about the plan. If I get my period they will probably do an u/s to see if the cyst is still there.

I thought this month I was going to be one of the lucky ones who just relaxed and it happened

I don't chart Minnesota because we usually do IUI but because of the cyst we didn't this month. I always thought charting would tell you when we have ovulated not when you are.

 

[AllyandJack]

Yeah, just relax. Like we all go into it initially un-relaxed.

My acupuncturist, who I like, let me borrow a copy of The Infertility Cure by Randine Lewis. I always see this book discussed on FF, so I figured I'd check it out. Let me tell you....if it was mine, it would be burning in my back yard right now and, if I wasn't on the Metformin, I'd be roasting marshmallows over it. It's a horrible, awful book written by a total and complete moron.

Page 267: "Many women who are undergoing an ART, however, are already somewhat deficient in nature, especially if they are older." Hello? DEFICIENT IN NATURE?!?! First of all, to heck with you for calling any woman deficient in nature. Second of all, most couples undergoing ART are doing it because of male factor infertility.

She perpetrates a massive lie that there is a double increase in genetic defects for babies concieved using ICSI.

She describes the process like it's some barbaric cult ritual that leaves the woman forever harmed and tainted (not to mention left with genetically inferior children).

The entire book, except for about 10 pages, more or less blames the woman for any sort of infertility. Male infertility is mentioned here and there sparingly, but it's always the woman's fault because, as we all know, she's deficient in nature.

She talks like she's been there. She hasn't. The fact that she had ONE miscarriage and was frustrated because it took a wee bit longer to conceive her 2nd than her 1st does not put here where I (or a lot of people) am now. She managed to avoid ART because she's so special....no, she avoided it because she had a simple hormonal problem that was easily fixed. She goes on with this superior tone that she's not as broken as those of us who need ART and if we'd all only drink some wheat grass, everything would be just dandy.

So, if you have any sort of infertility, avoid this book. It's terrible.

 

[Syrreal]

Freakin hippies. That's all I have to say about that book and its' author.

 

[Jen_in_NH]

Women are DEFICIENT IN NATURE!!!!!!! I'd like to show her deficient in nature....

Lisa - Nurse was a dork. Sorry.

Minnesota! - That's awesome! Those betas sounds really good!


Jen

 

[mickeybar]

Thanks everyone so much for your replys. It really helps so much to talk about it and get it all out. This has been a complete nightmare and I pray that it never happens again.

Since I got pregnant so fast last time (1st month) and I really didn't know what I was doing, I was wondering if you could tell me the best way to get pregnant fast! I am pretty irregular, with my average cycle being 33 days. I don't have any previous medical problems except for 1 miscarriage at 8 weeks. Should we TTC every day, every other day, and should it be right after my next period until the following period? I am totally clueless! I have tried looking this up online but I can't seem to find much information.

Thanks!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Mickeybar...

Learn about NFP. IF you have no prior fertility issues...simple CM checks and temping--would help you track when you O.

Different things work for different people...we start about 6 or 7 DPO and BD everyday or EOD until after O has been confirmed.

If you have no fertility issues--then you should be pregnant within a year. (That seems so gosh darn long!!!).

Once you have your temperature rise indicating O has happpened...then it is too late to try--so basically everyday the entire cycle is not necessary unless you so desire for fun. B/c part of that time it is biologically impossible to coneive.

The book Taking Charge of Your Own Fertility is good (I think that is the title).

 

[Syrreal]

Mickeybar,
I wasn't charting or anything. DH and I had just decided to start trying and once AF was over we just did it every other day for about a week and a half. We had never tried before and it just worked for us.
I know that wasn't very scientific on my part. I wasn't even sure we had done it on the right days but it worked.
BTW, I was doing the math, and we are definitely having a little disney souvenir

 

[LisaB]

Well my progesterone level was 10 and she said I should get af soon. If I don't get it by next friday to callin but I just realize that they do not do tests on the weekend so if I don't get it by thursday I am going to call in. These cycles are all over the place and I can't deal with them. This is day 31 and no AF some cramping but nothing major.

 

[AllyandJack]

Syrreal, so you know you have to name the kid something Disney related. As I was sitting waiting for my first acupuncture appointment, I text messaged my DH and said, "I can't believe I'm doing this hippie-dippy crap...." I enjoy the acupuncture, but the rest of it.....it's just not me. If someone likes to drink blue algea, more power to them, but I had to spend almost half an hour explaining to my acupuncturist why I refuse to eat the core of the pineapple.

Apparently, fresh pineapple has some chemical in it that allegedly aids in implantation, but he told me I had to eat the core, too. Uh....heck, no! Why? Because it's HARD and NASTY. And, no, I'm not switching to soy freakin' yogurt. I eat organic yogurt and that's good enough for me. People have spent thousands of years getting pregnant and drinking dairy and eating red meat. Sheesh!

Lisa, I'm sorry you're having a rough time. Are they going to do another pregnancy test if you don't get AF? Is it the cyst causing the problems? If the cyst is active and producing E2, it can really mess things up. Birth control pills will usually get rid of it, but that always seems counter-productive since your body will have to adjust off the birth control pills again and that can take a few months.

I just recommended Taking Charge of Your Fertility to a woman who works with my mother. She just had her first IUI and it failed. She had herself so convinced it would work and set herself up for big time disappointment. It was awful. She called me all upset. TCOYF is a GREAT book.

 

[LisaB]

Okay Carla What the heck does the progesterone level mean????

 

[Syrreal]

Actually Carla, one of the names we really liked if it was a girl was Ariel (which happens to also sound great in all the languages this kid is going to subjected to through family and friends- Portuguese, Greek, Spanish, English, and most likely atleast some French). But some friends of ours had a kid (before we were married) and her name is Ariel so we can't copy.

 

[AllyandJack]

Lisa, a progesterone of 10 on a non-medicated cycle indicates you ovulated. On a medical cycle, they like to see it at 15 to confirm a good ovulation. But, 10 indicates that ovulation did happen. They like to see it at that level at 7DPO. After my m/c, my progesterone was 8 at 2DPO on a non-medicated cycle. So, if you run high, that 10 could mean an ovuation late in the cycle (so, closer to the blood test). Maybe you ovulated late, which would explain why AF is "late".

Syrreal, I like Ariel. But, I guess copying a friend isn't nice.

I drank my terrible laxative an hour ago. I wanted to hurl, but I was a trooper and got it all down without throwing it back up. My stomach is so upset and it hasn't started "working" yet. It just made me tired like a drank a sedative instead of a laxative. I have to drink it again tonight.

 

[Syrreal]

Carla- yeah, I don't think they would appreciate it and when we would hang out (we see them about twice a year) there would be confusion. I know all about that!
I come from a greek family (1/2 greek 1/2 brazilian) and it really was like that movie "My Big Fat Greek Wedding". On my dad's side there are 5 kids of which I am the only girl. My dad's kids are me (Pinelopi) and my brother (Myron). My uncle George's kid is named George. My aunt's kids are George and Myron. It can get kinda crazy.

Right now we are settling on 3 girl's names- mackenzie, lorelai, and madeline
We have NO boys names so we joke around and say we're just gonna call th ebaby hey you if it's a boy

 

[7beasley]

Hi Ladies --

Just popping by to check in on everyone!

Carla -- good job not throwing up...you are a trooper. I have heard of eating pineapple but never the core.

Syreal -- I like the name Madeline...Maddy -- it is cute! Girls names are easier than boys to come up with in my opinion!

LisaB -- my fingers are crossed for you!

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Absolutely nothing new to report on my end. We are on hold while the egg donor goes through all her medical stuff. I have been taking estrogen/progesterone since August 8th - on August 9th I had estradril and FSH rechecked and FSH came back *normal* at 3.2 and estradril was HIGH at 245 -- doctor said the FSH was falsely low becuase of high estrogren which means it was not really normal and the Premature Ovarian Diagnsosis remains.

Whatever -- I hate my RE -- I am going to get a 3rd opinion...I just can't seem to accept the diagnosis when tests keep coming back weird (first the "false positive pregnancy test" and now the "false normal FSH test" - why are they so quick to accept the bad test results as true but the good ones as "false" -- it bugs me!

And - I have still not written my appeal letter to our stupid insurance company to see if we can get the donor's retreival covered by our insurance. I know I need to do that ASAP but I can't bring myself to sit down and write the letter....what really bugs me is that I am a lawyer (civil litigation) and if a woman came into me with this case (ins. company has a $15,000 cap and won't cover donor egg) I would be *all over* that case and would be excited about taking the case and making the insurance company pay -- but since I have to do it for myself - it just depresses me!

Anyway - I have to get over that hang up and just do it since it is the difference between implanation procedure in October vs. January!

Thinking of everyone!

Stay smiling (even though you want to scream and swear...)

~Nicole

 

[LisaB]

Good luck with everything Nichole I am praying it all works out. Af arrived late last night so it was a 33 day cycle yuck. I think we are going to take this month off and get caught up on some of the medical bills. It is just too depressing each month when it arrives and it seems like no one understands. Okay question next year should we do Disney again we did it in April or should we do a cruise like Alaska or Bermuda

 

[7beasley]

LisaB...I am so sorry that AF showed up...that stinks! But vacations don't stink and it is exciting you are planning yours...both options are great - I love Disney and could go there every day but an Alaskan cruise is supposed to be fabulous - I have seen pictures of someone who did one and they loved it! That is unique and different and I would pick that!! You can go to Disney the next year with your little one!

Hope everyone else is doing well today!

~Nicole

 

[Syrreal]

LisaB- we did an alaskan cruise last year w/ DHs family. All I have to say about it is A-MA-ZING!! We went on Celebrity Cruises from Seward to Vancouver and had a wonderful time the entire trip. It's a smooth ride the whole time since you are never really in open water. I would suggest splurgin on a room with a balcony (that's so that you can just walk outside your room and see whales every day They also have an amazing spa.

 

[mickeyboat]

to everyone! We were on vacation last week, and I just started a new job, so I haven't been around here as much as in the past.

We had a WONDERFUL time on vacation. The weather was the entire time, we were all in great moods the entire time DH relaxed more than I have seen him in years and he and I reconnected in a way we haven't been since the kids were born . We are planning on going back there next year, and putting off Disney until the kids are a bit older. BTW we went to canoe Island Lodge on Lake George, NY, and I highly recommend it.

On the other end of the spectrum from all of you, DH has finally decided to bite the bullet and get the big snip this winter. I am a little sad that we definitely won't be having any more children, but relieved that I won't have to be on the pill anymore. I think our family is complete with two girls, and can't imagine starting all over again - although I would be happy to babysit all of your new additions in the future!

My new job is going well. I think I am getting the hang of things, and can't wait to see where this position takes me.

I am following everyone's posts, so keep them coming.

Denae (Deficient in Nature)

 

[Jen_in_NH]

Sorry about AF, Lisa. That stinks. As far as vacation goes, any of those options sound good to me! DH and I are going on our first cruise next month, and I've always thought cruises sounded like fun. Alaska would be awesome!

Carla - did your stomach settle down at all?

Nicole - as long as all of your levels are funky, keep getting different opinions. Someone may notice something that everyone else misses. It may be harder to sort out all of the info, but at least everything was thoroughly looked at.

Hi Denae! Sounds like vacation was good for you both! Enjoy the new job.

Syrreal - Madeline is a beautiful name. I like Lorelei, but DH vetoed that quickly (not a big Gilmore Girls fan, as you can tell)

Anyways, I'm just hanging out waiting for AF I'm 12dpo, and feeling sort of AF-ish today. Usually it starts 13dpo, so tomorrow looks to be the lucky day. My temp was down a bit this am, but I'm at work, and it's usually lower at work (I wish I could understand that one......)

Have fun today!

Jen