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Couldn't you go 3 or 93. It will probabaly be crazy though. I have to go in tommorrow for the baseline u/s. As far as the tropical storm I am not really sure. We are on the RI border towards the Cape. Actually the first town in MA going to the cape on 195.
 
Hi ladies...so sorry that I haven't checked in before now. I've been in a training class since yesterday morning and haven't had access to a computer.

My doctors appointment didn't go well at all. Dr. Walmer (head of the clinic) couldn't locate my left ovary and I was in too much pain to let them continue searching. Because of that and because my E2 was so high we cancelled the cycle. He does not want to try another cycle until we sit down and talk it all through. He's really concerned about my left ovary being a pain and the right one has tendencies of shifting and being a problem as well. So...I have to wait for AF to show up and then we'll discuss doing a laproscopy to see where my ovaries are normally and if there's a reason they aren't coming down. After that we'll consider a second cycle.

Lisa I'm really sorry that AF showed up :hug:

Carla thank you for being here. I wouldn't be nearly as calm and understanding if I didn't have you here to explain everything.

Nicole :hug:

I'm still going to stick around here and check on everyone I just may not post everyday like I have been.
 
Lisa, I'll be taking 93 to Boston, but getting from Boston to Winthrop is going to be a pain. I think I'll take 93 to the Tobin to 1 to 16 to 1A to Winthrop. That appears to be the easiest way since the Sumner and Callahan are going to be cut down to 1 lane while the Teddy is closed. :rolleyes:

They say Beryl is going to hit Southeastern, MA. I don't know how bad it'll be, but I guess Nantucket is going to get the brunt of it and the tides should be dangerous....but, you know there will be morons out there surfing.

Kristy, I'm sorry your cycle got canceled. :grouphug: But, it sounds like your doctor has it under control. Even if they have to go in with the scope to get the eggs....it's a bit more of a pain, but they'll still get the eggs in the end and that's really all that matters. A lap would be good....usually if
ovaries are misplaced, it could indicate endometriosis around them pulling them from their normal spot. They can remove it and have the ovaries go back or they can leave it and just use the scope to get the eggs. Either way, they'll find a way to get the eggs out for the next cycle and they'll be able to adjust the medication so you don't overstim so much.

I just ate a big bowl of chocolate pudding and now I feel like hurling. :sick: It was so good and I was just listening to Howie Carr streaming online and, next thing I know, the pudding is gone and I'm queasy.
 
Carla -- chocolate pudding - yum!! Sounds like you enjoyed your day off.

Kristy -- I am so sorry for you! Hopefully the doctor will have some good ideas/ a plan.

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Well - we thought we had an egg donor picked but she is not going to work -- she wants $8000 plus she is in NY so there is another $1000-$2000 for travel expenses we have to pay PLUS we have to pay to have her monitored in NY which is ANOTHER $2000 --- so $12000!! Just for the egg donor plus another $14,000 for our agency, her agency and the medications. NO WAY!!

So we have to find someone local to our clinic instead and that way the $4000 in travel and monitoring are immediately gone and most of the local girls seem to want between $4000 and $6000 which is more manageable.

I don't think we can spend $26,000+ on this -- we just don't have that kind of money. But we think we can swing $18-$20K.

I just found out that her meds and my meds - which are not covered by insurance - are going to run about $4000 - that was a shocker!! My god...this stuff is not cheap.

So - back to the egg donor drawing board. I told my husband we are being too picky and we should choose pick someone - anyone - so long as she is local and does not have 3 heads!!

I did not think it would be this hard to choose an egg...

God - I can't wait for Vegas - I am going to drink. Alot!

~Nicole
 

What insurance do you have Nichole--wow what alot of work. I would let you borrow some of my eggs, I'm local and 1/2 Italian but I have blond hair and blue eyes but the eggs are probably too old.

Carla I had clients that lived in Winthrop on Seafoam Drive so I knew it was on 1A.
How can you stand listening to Howie Carr he used to be synicated to a local station down here. I had to turn him off or tune him out when Kevin was listening
 
Lisa, I love Howie. The guy practically raised me. Both my parents worked, so I'd come home from school and flip on Howie. He was my unofficial babysitter. You can't beat his Wizard of Uhs segment and his Mumbles Menino site. Conjugating in the Common? You can't make that crap up! I managed to get into Boston, but it took longer because some idiot got into an accident and set his car ablaze. :sad2: When people do that and cause traffic, they should stand them on the side of the road so we can all slap them as we drive by. I'm giving myself 45 minutes to get to Winthrop today....isn't Winthrop like 5 miles from Boston?!? :rotfl: Even though I'm working tomorrow, I'm going out drinking with my mother tonight. I'm not staying out late, so I figure I can be up and out of the house by 8am. I'm going to give it a try!

Nicole, some of the medications should be covered. Lupron is usually a covered drug because it has other uses, not just for infertility. Progesterone is usually a covered drug because it has other uses. Any anti-biotics should be covered drugs. Estrogen should be a covered drug because of it's other uses. Check your insurer's website for their covered drugs - those drugs are almost always covered under all plans regardless of their use. Have you checked Freedom Drug? They have discounts for cash patients and offer a 3rd round free on Serono products. $8,000 makes me want to be an egg donor. :) But, to be honest, I don't think I could take money from people....I guess if you haven't been through it, it's not a huge deal to take money for it because you're emotionally detached. Having been through infertility, I could never take money. My payment would be in the form of Versed for my retrieval surgery. :rotfl:

I'm going drinking tonight! Bring on the apple martinis. Today is also the day I have to go begging my doctor for my colitis medication...and Ambien...I want Ambien.
 
Good luck driving to Winthrop. Enjoy the apple martinis a key lime martini is really good also.

I go in for my u/s today and get my plan. I hate these 21 day months
 
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Lisa, you're going again right away? Are they going to do a beta today? Do you know if they're going to change anything? Let us know how your appointment goes!

I had DH call today to see if the insurance approval went through. I haven't heard back yet. If it has, I'll start my birth control pills again....not to say I'm going to start a cycle right away, but I'll start the pills in anticipation of another cycle in the next 2-3 months. If not, I'm going hormone-free for a while. I'm equally excited about both options, I guess. I apparently don't care. :goodvibes I'm not happy, but I'm just not fighting anymore.

I'm looking forward to going out....people have been asking about me. :sunny:
 
Hi Carla and LisaB:

Our insurance really isn't bad - and since we live in MA - fertility is covered. We have Great West now which has a limit of $15,000 but anything and everything re infertility is covered (we will be able to get one cycle with Great West) and in January we switch to Tufts which has no cap and no lifetime max or cycle max.

The problem is that while the actual retreival and implanation in me is covered, as well as both the donor and my ultrasounds and doctor's appointments - neither plan covers HER medication and Tufts does not cover MY medication. So we are paying for medication no matter what. Also, neither plan covers HER lab work (mine is covered though) - so we have to pay for that out of pocket as well.

The other problem is that neither plan covers all the "extra" costs of egg donation beyond the actual medical procedure of retrieval and implanation - those "extra" costs include donor compensation (ie: buying the egg but it is not called that because that is illegal - but come on - that is totally what it is), my agency fee for them to do the medical screenings, her agency fee to find her I guess and coordinate her with my agency, the legal contracts and misc expenses.

Those extra costs apparently cost in the ballpark of $16,000-$20,000 --- which is SUCH a scam!!!

If I had known back in college that you could make so much money taking meds and going through 1 retrieval I might have not had as much school debt as I do now...it really is a good deal for these girls. Although I agree with Carla that they are emotionally detached and that is why they can probably do it - but when you are like us and have been through the pains of infertility you feel differently about the whole thing!

Carla - you have good insurance so this is not as much of an issue for you -- but for those non-Massachusetts girls...alot of the stuff I have been reading says that for those who don't have insurance that covers IVF - some clinics allow you to trade - basically trade your eggs for your own IVF to be covered in part or in full. Kind of a sharing concept.

You guys are all so sweet offering your eggs...Thanks!

Happy thoughts today!
It is almost Friday.

~Nicole
 
Nicole, that stinks that there has to be "legal fees" involved in getting pregnant. I have to sign 3 contracts for IVF and one of them says I agree to financially support any babies born. Why doesn't eveyone have to sign that form?? :rolleyes:

I had Tufts at the beginning of my treatment and they were pretty good. Is your pharmacy plan through them? If so, stuff like progesterone and estrogen that you'd be on is on their formulary. It was my understanding when I was with them that they don't question WHY you're getting the drugs. If it's on the formulary, it's covered. I remember calling and asking about Clomid and I wondered if it required prior authorization (the IF stuff requires the prior authorization) and they told me if it's on the formulary, it's covered, regardless. Hey, it can't hurt to submit it, right? ;) For the big stuff, try Freedom Drug. They give discounts to cash patients.

I think the egg swap thing is big in England and other European countries. I don't see why it shouldn't catch on here. I'd do it...even thought my insurance covers it, I'd be willing to slide a few eggs to someone at no cost.

If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to start a foundation that provides grants for people to have IVF/donor eggs/donor sperm, etc. Just because people can't pull $25,000 out of their butts on demand doesn't mean they shouldn't be given the chance to have kids.
 
You are right about the $$ - a foundation would be a wonderful thing wouldn't it!

It is so maddening that teenagers and crack *****s and welfare mothers can just keep popping out babies (and we support those babies!!) but that I have to pay $20K for a baby...it is just wrong!!

It is the classic example of everyone wanting their cut - it is a business I guess - just like everything else.

But imagine if organ donor stuff was run like this - instead of being a national registry you could go through private agencies and compensate donors for donating their organs...this country would go ape **** and people would be screaming and yelling about how unfair it is...

But if you need an egg - you have to mortgage your HOUSE and no one even bats an eye. I just can't stand it.

The money and the unjustice of the whole thing (ie: why me - why do I have POF - why does my condition have to be so devasting) is what really gets me.

Whatever - nothing we can do...we are trying to close on our loan when I came back from vacation so that we can pay our "guardian angel" egg donor --- some of these woman truly think of themselves as "angels" and I guess in a way they are since they are helping us have a baby but in the same breath they demand $8000 --- given the fact that all they have to do is take some meds for 1 month and go through retreival - if they really want to be angels they should do that for free!

Ugh...

I have to go to a meeting now for the rest of the day - I will check in tonight or tomorrow.

Hope everyone is well!

~Nicole
 
I'm in with the whole foundation thing. The state can cover all of the drug addicts needing treatment for all the diseases they managed to give themselves by sharing needles, but because I'm a responsible citizen who actually has a job and health insurance (which doesn;t cover IVF), I might not actually be able to have a child. But if that drug addict pops out 5 kids, who cares? Medicaid will pay for all of them.....

Now that my vent is over....

Good luck with the u/s Lisa. Won't you be so glad when you never have to have another internal one again?

Nicole - the whole process sounds frustrating :guilty: Have fun drinking in Vegas though!

Carla - :wave2:

Kristy - I'm sorry this cycle isn't going as planned. At least the lap will give them a better look at what's going on.


I'm still just waiting for AF to figure out the next step. If my temperature thing counts, it should be early next week. I actually did get the whole temp spike, but I don't know what it means since u/s showed no follicles.

Have a good weekend everyone!

Jen
 
Well the u/s was difficult lots of pain on the left ovary. They found a cyst on the right one so they we are basically skipping this month and call them when af shows up. I am not sure if I should do the ovulation kit this month and try to get pregnant anatural. Good luck all

I am so sorry Jen that infertility treatment isn't manadatory in NH it just sucks. I used to work at a methadone clinic as a substance abuse counselor. I remember having a girl who was pregnant and using cocaine. They wouldn't throw her off the methadone because it is a money making business and DCYF wouldn't do anything until the baby was born.
 
Lisa...I'm sorry to hear that the left ovary was so painful. Good luck either way you decide to go.

I'm with you all on the vents about teens and druggies having kids yet not being able to afford them nor caring about them. It infuriates me.

Nicole have a blast in Vegas!!

I have a question for anyone taking hormones. Did you find that your libido was completely squashed? I normally have a very high libido but it went to negative 10 once I started the Follistim. I haven't had a Follistim shot since Tuesday and my drive is still gone. When will I get it back??
 
Good morning ladies. I think that we are going to just try between day 8-12. That is when the nurse said to try and if I don't get my period by cycle day 27 then call for a beta. Kevin should be Very happy this month.
 
Well, I'm officially off the 2ww list. AF came today -- finally -- three days late! She's always come like clockwork. You could set your watch by it. I attribute it to stopping the pill, I guess.

At least I can go ahead and take my prescriptions for my chronic sinus infection, I guess.

Bella turned three yesterday with a bang. She got 8 (count them -- eight!!) My Little Ponies in various forms and a Power Wheels Jeep. Pretty cute! I'm still exhausted from 12+ hours of cleaning, cooking and prepping, only to have DH tell me at 9:30 p.m. that our best friends were coming BACK over the house (they live 6 doors down) to "hang out." I was dead on my feet!

GL to you other future mommies! And Nicole -- GL in Vegas! My company has a tradeshow (I manage a national pizza magazine) out there every year and its so much fun!
 
Kristy, it could be the Lupron. It puts you into an artificial menopause. I didn't have a problem with WANTING to, but the actual act was so painful - that's enough to make you not want to try that again. :)

Nicole, I remember seeing a story on the news about egg donation and how it was an "easy" way for college kids to make money. Easy? I must have missed that part. :rotfl: Even on my low doses, I'm still bedridden with OHSS for a few weeks after retrieval. I'm lucky that the anesthesia doesn't make me puke for hours after the surgery, but the pain after requires a constant dose of Vicodin in my system. $8,000 is a lot to ask though. It's not THAT bad.

Jen, you mean you don't get all warm and fuzzy knowing that you get to support some crackhead's kids? :goodvibes

Lisa, might as well try naturally this month. Can't hurt. :banana:

gypsy, they still make My Little Ponies?? I LOVED those when I was a kid and then my parents tossed them all when we moved. :guilty: I hope your sinus infection goes away fast.


DH called BCBS. They have no record of my approval. So, that made my decision. I'm done. I can't do it anymore. It's not even the IVF - that's the ironic thing. I just can't deal with BCBS anymore. I went out Friday night. Everyone asked how I was. I told them I was done. I wasn't trying anymore. I can't even tell you how many people said, "See....now you'll get pregnant." :furious: Then, I had this conversation with my mother:

Mom: I told you what to do.
Me: What.
Mom: Do it all the time and then lay there with a pillow under you.
Me: I thought of that, but IVF is so much easier, so I figured I'd try that first.
Mom: I'm telling you....that's what you need to do.
Me: I did that. I got a raging UTI.
Mom: Well, then you did it wrong.

I've been married 4 years. I'm pretty sure I'm doing everything right. It's not rocket science. :sad2:
 
Carla Don't give up Don't let BCBS win. Your a lawyer you know how to fight. Fight this.


I know what you mean every month is just another blow and it gets me closer to 40. Of course everyone has the great solution. Have you tried roubetessian (sp) how about egg whites put your legs up do it more and on and on etc. Just relax You know that after this you will have Catholic twins I am so sick of it.
 
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