Any opinions on the hacker who got naked

[tennvalgirl]

How many people are we talking here? Is that common practice taking nude photos? Maybe it's because I am over forty but when the clothes come off the lights go out!!! No one wants to see that and I consider myself in decent shape.

LOTS of people send nude photos to each other.
You would probably be surprised.

 

[lizabu]

I think this is really not ok. And sure this time it's a celebrity but what if it was your sister or your daughter? I think as the general public we need to stop supporting this nonsense. Somebody is buying these pictures and somebody is looking at them. If you're looking at pictures like this you are part of the problem. All this "don't take nude pictures" talk is blaming the victim. It's like when people say a girl dressed a certain way deserves to be sexualized. We have to stop blaming the victim.

 

[Albort]

Apple patched an exploit in Find My iPhone today that supposedly was used by at least some of the hackers.

yes, it prevents you from entering your password more than 5 times now...
The hackers supposily used common password to break in...

 

[RadioNate]

It seems the general public thinks any kind of invasion of privacy of a celebrity is okay.

It's a huge violation of privacy & we'd be outraged if it was regular citizens. It's a sex crime, a criminal act and I'm saddened to see people blaming the victims.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...de-photo-leak-isnt-a-scandal-its-a-sex-crime/

 

[Lynne M]

It seems the general public thinks any kind of invasion of privacy of a celebrity is okay.

Yeah and that's some of what I was trying to get at. I've seen so many comments today (not here) that implied or said outright that these people deserved it because they took revealing pictures of themselves. Never mind that it was in their own homes. For or with their spouses/partners. And because they're 'celebrities', we should all get to see those pictures.

What couples do in their homes is no one's business but theirs, no matter how famous they are. And this stunt is no different than peeking in someone's bedroom window.

There's also a lot of misinformation out there; a lot of people seem to think that these were pictures taken for publicity purposes that the celebrities put on the internet, and somebody found.

The other purpose of my post was to make everyone aware that this was a data breach that anyone using iCloud for data or photo storage or backup was vulnerable to. Who knows what other data these losers got. I doubt it was just celebrities' racy pictures.

 

[Nancy]

Eh, if they don't want naked photos of themselves popping up on the internet, don't post such photos in a place where they can be hacked. Better yet, keep your clothes on whenever there's a camera around.

I never heard of about 2/3 of the people on the list. Maybe they should be glad for the publicity.

I agree...you don't want people to see naked pictures then don't take them...and if you do take some then don't put them on any electric gadget.

Want to add, I do not in any way think anyone deserves something like this to happen to them. I don't think celebrities have a different set of rules than non celebs. Yes, they are in the public eye but that does not give anyone the right to hack into private files and steal them.

 

[JenM]

It's a huge violation of privacy & we'd be outraged if it was regular citizens. It's a sex crime, a criminal act and I'm saddened to see people blaming the victims.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...de-photo-leak-isnt-a-scandal-its-a-sex-crime/

Completely agreed. I liked Emma Watson’s (who thankfully was not one of the women involved in this) response on Twitter earlier today:

https://twitter.com/EmWatson/status/506531006380527617

@EmWatson Even worse than seeing women's privacy violated on social media is reading the accompanying comments that show such a lack of empathy.

I’m even more annoyed (and I’m seeing a lot of this on another forum, where I’m a mod) with guys who are saying how bad they feel that this happened...while scouring the internet for the photos and making jokes about them. It’s disgusting.

And I do feel bad for Jennifer Lawrence. I was at the NYC premiere for the new X-Men movie a few months ago, and she couldn’t have been nicer. She came right over to the fan section before she went to talk to the press, I saw her run back to take a picture with a little girl she missed when she was signing autographs, and she was goofing around with the crowd throughout the whole event. She was just very cool. It’s a shame that a lot of her fans couldn’t show her the same kind of respect.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I agree...you don't want people to see naked pictures then don't take them...and if you do take some then don't put them on any electric gadget.

Want to add, I do not in any way think anyone deserves something like this to happen to them. I don't think celebrities have a different set of rules than non celebs. Yes, they are in the public eye but that does not give anyone the right to hack into private files and steal them.

Agreed that they shouldn't take the pics. But that isn't the issue. The issue is they stored them privately (even if on icloud) and they were stolen. This is no differnt than breaking into your house and stealing from you.

And this in involved digital photo copiers and tier memory--I know I had no idea that everyday image copied is stored permanently--but stealing revealing photos is no different than stealing financial data which can happen with your computer---or photocopies you made. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/copiers-gold-mines-for-identity-theft/

Just because it is prudent to not to record things you wouldn't want the while world to say does not as love the criminal of this egregious violation of privacy.

 

[Planogirl]

I hate that some people think that this is OK or blame the victims. Celebrities are just people who happened to go into a career that made them famous. I never get the fawning and fuss over celebrities just like I don't get justifying this abusive behavior. As always, I will avoid anything to do with any of this.

 

[Planogirl]

I just heard that Jennifer Lawrence's pic is from when she was being made up as Mystique. This is ridiculous.

 

[Jeff in BigD]

I don't buy that it's a publicity ploy. For instance, Jennifer Lawrence stars in the Hunger Games & X-Men, she's not hurting for work. Same goes for Kate Upton. This isn't a situation where a "celebutant" has a sex tape come out right before she announces her reality show deal.

Let's say a couple took Polaroids for each other for their anniversary or something, locked them away & then someone broke into their house, stole the pictures, then made photocopies & taped copies all over town, we'd feel like the couple had a pretty good reason to be irate, yeah? I don't think we'd be saying that they are just suffering the consequences for taking naughty pictures? I don't see this any differently.

How many people are we talking here? Is that common practice taking nude photos?

You would be surprised just how common it really is.

It seems the general public thinks any kind of invasion of privacy of a celebrity is okay.

Yep. I don't agree with it, but with 24/7 access to things like TMZ, their daily lives are constantly pushed down our throats, so it doesn't feel like a personal invasion to the average person.

I think we are in a strange gray area where some of the people are naturally curious, so they maybe don't see it as a violation, per se. More like they are bystanders looking at a wreck. To them, they didn't do the hacking, so they aren't the bad guy.

Unfortunately, I've seen a few people on boards & social media accuse the "onlookers" of being on equal footing as rapists or at least rape-apologists - I know it's frustrating when people don't seem to think it's a problem, but jumping to blanket accusations & hyperbole only serve to deafen people to your (I mean "your" in a general sense) point of view that it's a violation & wrong. Saying that seeking out the photos is akin to being a Peeping Tom would make more sense & maybe it would cause the genuinely curious to realize that they shouldn't be participating. And that participating can be construed as de facto approval of the hacker's actions.

LOTS of people send nude photos to each other.
You would probably be surprised.

Agreed.

The issue is they stored them privately (even if on icloud) and they were stolen. This is no differnt than breaking into your house and stealing from you.

This. If a homeowner had forgotten to lock their back door & they got robbed, would we go on & on that the homeowner brought it on themselves? Doubtful. Sure, locking the door might've prevented it, maybe, but it shouldn't matter. It's not their fault they got robbed & it doesn't take any of the guilt away from the thieves.

 

[ChrisFL]

I feel bad for the celebrities who this happened to....however maybe the good thing to come from this is that more people will realize that ANYTHING that gets posted that has an internet connection can be hacked.

Use an old film camera or a digital camera without an internet connection, problem solved.

 

[Jedana]

It's not ok that the hacker did what he did. What this person did is negligent and he needs to be sent to jail for this. If the system could find a way to ban hackers from computers for the rest of their lives, they should do it.


I've always told my girls "Do not write anything down that you don't want the world to read. Do not say anything that you don't want the world to hear, because someone will repeat it. Do not take any photos that you don't want your grandmother to see, and never ever put anything on the internet that you don't want saved for prosperity. Never assume anything is private."

 

[pigletto]

I feel bad for the celebrities who this happened to....however maybe the good thing to come from this is that more people will realize that ANYTHING that gets posted that has an internet connection can be hacked.

Use an old film camera or a digital camera without an internet connection, problem solved.

And this is pretty much how I feel. I don't think it's right and it most certainly is a invasion of privacy. It just happens a lot and at some point people have to realize that once it's out on the internet in any form, it's vulnerable information. This isn't exactly the first time. There's a nude photo leak every other week it seems, and there was major profile case last year with nude photos of several celebrities being hacked. It isn't going to stop, and the best way to insure that privacy is to not take those photos, or at least put them somewhere they can't be hacked in the first place. It's the same thing I would tell my daughter, the only difference being she wouldn't have the support of the FBI to find her hacker.
And yes, I do think in many cases it's a publicity stunt. Certainly not all, but when you've got people like Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton who became famous and wealthy from a "leaked" sex tape.. it's not exactly out of the realm of possibility that SOME would use this type of thing for notoriety.

 

[ValarDisneyus]

That's a real shame. I hope she's not too shaken up by it. I feel like a lot of people's basic humankind compassion and wits went flying out the window as soon as they could communicate with others via a screen. :/

 

[mom2rtk]

I wouldn't trust naked photos on the cloud to stay private any more than I expect electronic medical records to stay private.

I love how anyone who doesn't trust electronic storage of data to stay private is accused of having a tin foil hat. Then when it leaks out people say "well, what did you expect?"

 

[pioneer89]

Nothing on your phone is private. I'd bet that 99% of people give up everything on their phone just by clicking "Accept" on half the EULAs for their apps.

How many of you with iTunes have read the 50 page small font agreement you now have with Apple?


Anyway, I have a hard time caring too much about these "breeches of privacy" for people who depend on surrendering privacy for a living.

 

[Colleen27]

But the people who hacked to find these pictures and them shared them, no different than a peeping Tom.

Perhaps she should not have taken private photo. But this isn't about her career. It is about people doing what they were not entitled to do.

I agree. Making it about the taking of the photos in the first place smacks of "blame the victim" mentality IMO and detracts from the seriousness of the crime. The person who released these photos broke into a private space (even if it is virtual in nature) and helped himself to private property.

And the lack of human decency in the reactions is even more disturbing than the crime itself. If someone has their identity stolen by a hacker, the response isn't "Well what did you expect when you started banking and shopping online?" Why should it be any different for any other personal information that is obtained illegally?

 

[momto2girls]

I definitely think that this is a crime and that the hackers should be prosecuted. No question about that.

However, I just can't feel that sorry for the celebrities. If you don't want nude pictures to be found, don't take them. This should be common sense for everyone, but celebrities especially should realize this. And if you somehow can't refrain from taking nude pictures of yourself, take the pics with a regular camera. There is, of course, still a very real possibility that those could end up being exposed as well, but it seems particularly risky to have them accessible on the internet in any form.

 

[Geoff_M]

If someone has their identity stolen by a hacker, the response isn't "Well what did you expect when you started banking and shopping online?" Why should it be any different for any other personal information that is obtained illegally?

There's only one real problem with your analogy... the people that are the victims of these hack aren't just "someone". They are celebrities. This isn't the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th time something like this has happened. It's the umpteenth. The only thing notable about this incident is the number of people impacted at once. The fact is that there's a hacker culture out there gunning for these people. If I knew that people were gunning for my specific financial information, I do think I'd be a little more selective with regard to my on-line transactions.

I do not think that anyone affected by the releases deserved what happened to them in any way, but I do think you can at least call into question the wisdom of their actions in a manner that doesn't resort to "blaming the victim". Part of me cannot get my head around parts of the "iPhone Generation" standards of behavior, but if you're going to engage in the habit of taking explicit photos of yourself on your phone, you're going to have to do so with the acceptance of the risk that something like this is real possibility. Leaks like these happen nowadays with near regularity. Each time, the chain of events that leads up to the release of such images starts with the taking of the image itself. Without that event, the embarrassing end-results cannot happen.... no matter what efforts are made by hackers. But if people insist on acting on their desires to make such images of themselves, perhaps a better option would be to use something other than an internet connected device.

I don't think they "deserved it". I don't think they should be scorned, and I think they have a right to be as upset as they want to be. I think those responsible for the hacking should be criminally prosecuted and civilly sued. But it's also undeniable that those impacted had a small, but crucial, hand in the actions that led up to the end embarrassment that they are now having to deal with.