Any one dealt with USAA for an auto accident claim?

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My son got side swiped on October 8th, he is fine, the car is not.

The car is a 2006 Honda Accord so we had long since dropped comprehensive so we can't file through our insurance and have to file through the at fault drivers insurance which is USAA.

We got my son back to college by letting him take my wife's car as her and I were leaving the next day for a short vacation. Before leaving I got a copy of the accident report which gave me the necessary information to file a claim with USAA and we left on vacation, expecting to hear from USAA in the next day or two.

October 15th when I returned from vacation I called USAA. I spoke with someone who gave me a link to view the claim status and could only give me the extension of the adjuster assigned to the case so I called the adjuster and left a message. On October 16th I called again and left a message again. The outgoing voicemail message of the adjuster had the managers extension so I also called the manager and left a message.

On October 17th I called a half dozen more times leaving messages for the manager and the adjuster. Finally at about 7pm on the 17th the manager returned my call. He explained that the adjuster was on vacation, they had assigned my accident to someone on vacation, and he would look at the claim. The manager started explaining how the insured was not returning their calls and I would have to wait 14 days for a returned call at which point USAA would send a certified letter to the insured and I would then have to wait 30 days for a response. They needed to speak with their insured before accepting liability.

I pushed back and asked, is your insured not responding or have they not been called, seeing as how I have not received any phone call from USAA in the 10 days since I filed the claim?

I explained I understood in some instances there is wiggle room in fault but if he took time to read the accident report he would see that their insured had exited the interstate in the emergency lane instead of the real lane of traffic like my son, attempted to pass my son, and when presented with a broke down car in the emergency lane had made an improper lane change into the side of my son.

He read the report and said they would accept liability, I thought things would finally start moving, I was wrong.

On the 18th I got a certified letter from the tow recovery company wanting to let me know there was $1000 in incurred charges and that I needed to settle up or in 10 days they would assume I gave them ownership of the car. I also noticed on the online status of my claim that I had been granted access that it was saying the claim had been cancelled.

Another set of calls to USAA to leave voicemails because they apparently do not ever answer their phone and I wait. That night around 7pm I got a call from the manager again, not my adjuster, saying that my adjuster was back in the office and would talk to me Monday. That the claim had not been canceled despite what it said online and that USAA would retrieve the car from the tow recovery lot over the weekend.

Around 9pm my wife got a call from the estimator confirming that the car was a total loss. He was confused as to why the car was still at the tow recovery lot and asked if I had refused to authorize USAA to pickup the vehicle as it was costing them money? I explained I had given permission on the 17th and that I had yet to hear from the actual adjuster assigned to the claim. He was silent after I explained my experience so far and assured me it would move quickly now. I would hear from the loss department with an offer on Monday, from another department on the steps to transfer ownership on Monday and all would be good.

Didn't hear from anyone today.

Tomorrow will be 14 days since the claim was filed and I have received exactly ZERO phone calls from the adjuster assigned to the claim.

I know they are probably busy with the back to back hurricanes but I are frustrated at the complete lack of urgency and communication from USAA.

Edited to add:
In Georgia insurers have 10 days to settle a claim after coverage confirmation. I wonder if I should just sit back and wait until the 28th so I have a potential lawsuit and more negotiating power for the value of the car?
 
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They have always been my insurance co and never had this sort of issue, but then again they represent me and you are on the opposite side of that.

If you have AAA get the car towed to your home ASAP. The last time I had an accident it was the repair people and people who held the car (the tow place) that dragged everything out because they get soooooo much money for holding the car. Also, if they hold it for longer many people drain the rental car coverage and it kicks off some sort of cost that lets the carrier up your rates (explained by an underwriter I know and while I don't remember the details I remember it was a thing). I never had this before but my recent experience with the repair industry was very sketchy. I refused the rental car part because I didn't need it but if I used it somehow the no fault thing gets tripped up in some sort of way that triggers increase in premiums, it has to do with how certain costs are defined vs other costs and who pays for what. I think my carrier would pay for the rental car even if it is no fault... all very tricky.
 
If you have AAA get the car towed to your home ASAP.
USAA has accepted liability and I have given them permission to retrieve the car and they have said they already retrieved it, but have not, as evidenced by the USAA estimator having to go to the recovery yard instead of the USAA contracted facility.

At this point I am not going out of my way to save them any money.

The ball is in their court and they keep dropping it, over and over and over. If that means the claim ends up costing them many thousands more than it should, that is their fault.
 
Call the attorney general in your state or the insurance department. File a complaint against the insurance company. Perhaps that speeds up the process. Of course, they hope you just fall off the earth. Good luck!
 

Collision damage is covered under Collision coverage, not Comprehensive coverage.
 
Collision damage is covered under Collision coverage, not Comprehensive coverage.
We didn’t have that on the car either. At least through my insurance company they are intertwined and sold together. It did not make financial sense to continue paying for collision/comprehensive on a 2005 car. In an at fault accident we would have just been out and understood that fact.
 
The car is a 2006 Honda Accord so we had long since dropped comprehensive so we can't file through our insurance and have to file through the at fault drivers insurance which is USAA.
Why can't you have your insurance handle it all? You pay them premiums for coverage and for them to deal with other insurance companies. Although the actual cash value of a 2006 Accord isn't going to be much.
 
This is frustrating for sure. I don't understand how you are going to get anything out of USAA for an 18 year old car. If you are lucky you will get a check for $500. A car bumped into my daughter walking in a crosswalk when she had the walk signal. Ended up going to the ER running up some bills even though she was fine. Took 18 months to settle the claims from the hospital. I got nowhere. I got by insurance company involved was the only thing that solved it and got the bills settled. Even though this happened 7 years we just got a check for the hospital because they overcharged her for some service.
 
Why can't you have your insurance handle it all? You pay them premiums for coverage and for them to deal with other insurance companies. Although the actual cash value of a 2006 Accord isn't going to be much.
Unless you have comprehensive on the car, your insurance will not cover the car and use the subrogation process. You have to go through the at fault insurance.
 
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This is frustrating for sure. I don't understand how you are going to get anything out of USAA for an 18 year old car. If you are lucky you will get a check for $500. A car bumped into my daughter walking in a crosswalk when she had the walk signal. Ended up going to the ER running up some bills even though she was fine. Took 18 months to settle the claims from the hospital. I got nowhere. I got by insurance company involved was the only thing that solved it and got the bills settled. Even though this happened 7 years we just got a check for the hospital because they overcharged her for some service.
The loss process as explained on their page should result in substantially more than $500.

The should be looking for 3-4 recent sales in my area and average those prices together. They will also pay any required fees for purchasing a car in the state of Georgia like the 7% TAVT, title fee, tag fee, and electronic filing fee.

I have found that a 2006 Honda Accord EX-L goes for around $4500 so I expect a payout of around $5000. That is what it would cost to replace the car with a like car. The similar cars I find are listed for sale at $6000-$7000. Online sites that suggest a fair market value suggest a median of $4491-$4874.
 
The loss process as explained on their page should result in substantially more than $500.

The should be looking for 3-4 recent sales in my area and average those prices together. They will also pay any required fees for purchasing a car in the state of Georgia like the 7% TAVT, title fee, tag fee, and electronic filing fee.

I have found that a 2006 Honda Accord EX-L goes for around $4500 so I expect a payout of around $5000. That is what it would cost to replace the car with a like car. The similar cars I find are listed for sale at $6000-$7000. Online sites that suggest a fair market value suggest a median of $4491-$4874.
But they don't pay replacement cost, they pay actual cash value which is less.
 
Unless you have comprehensive on the car, your insurance will not cover the car and use the subrogation process. You have to go through the at fault insurance.
Comprehensive covers non-collision damage. This was a collision, so that has nothing to do with them not handling the situation for you. . Your insurance should step up and handle negotiate with the other insurance. Like I said, THAT is one of the things you are paying them premiums for. My car got hit while parked. I had the legally required minimum insurance, so no collision and not comprehensive. I contacted the responsible parties insurance and my insurance as required by my policy. There were issues that prompted the other insurance company to drag their feet. My insurance gave them a deadline to settle the claim or they would pay and wait for reimbursement. You are paying for them to do that.
 
This is another example on why to get a dash cam. Insurance companies will use every excuse in the book to avoid paying claims. Video footage isn't foolproof but it sure is far superior to just your word. Even if you are 100% at fault your insurance company instructs you to say nothing and never to admit anything. And police won't show up now days unless there are serious injuries so the police reports are meaningless.
 
Comprehensive covers non-collision damage. This was a collision, so that has nothing to do with them not handling the situation for you. . Your insurance should step up and handle negotiate with the other insurance. Like I said, THAT is one of the things you are paying them premiums for. My car got hit while parked. I had the legally required minimum insurance, so no collision and not comprehensive. I contacted the responsible parties insurance and my insurance as required by my policy. There were issues that prompted the other insurance company to drag their feet. My insurance gave them a deadline to settle the claim or they would pay and wait for reimbursement. You are paying for them to do that.
I promise you my insurance told me I was not eligible for subrogation because I did not have comprehensive/collision on my car, only liability. I tried to file a claim.
 
This is another example on why to get a dash cam. Insurance companies will use every excuse in the book to avoid paying claims. Video footage isn't foolproof but it sure is far superior to just your word. Even if you are 100% at fault your insurance company instructs you to say nothing and never to admit anything. And police won't show up now days unless there are serious injuries so the police reports are meaningless.
Except OP isn't getting excuses (just no responses) and USAA has already admitted fault. So how would the dash cam help?
 
Why can't you have your insurance handle it all? You pay them premiums for coverage and for them to deal with other insurance companies. Although the actual cash value of a 2006 Accord isn't going to be much.
Because in this case the car itself isn't being insured through the OP's car insurance, just the liability portion (med pay is part of liability). That's what happens when you go to "liability only" Sometimes insurance companies may do small things on your behalf like call a body shop but they aren't any obligation to do anything for you, to your point you're not even paying for the premiums at that point for them to cover the vehicle. Some states have comp without collision (some surcharge for this) allowable.
 
Because in this case the car itself isn't being insured through the OP's car insurance, just the liability portion (med pay is part of liability). That's what happens when you go to "liability only" Sometimes insurance companies may do small things on your behalf like call a body shop but they aren't any obligation to do anything for you, to your point you're not even paying for the premiums at that point for them to cover the vehicle. Some states have comp without collision (some surcharge for this) allowable.
Like I said, that was not my experience. An experience I hope never to repeat. However, I AM in California, which can be a different plant on a lot of things, especially insurance.
 
Except OP isn't getting excuses (just no responses) and USAA has already admitted fault. So how would the dash cam help?
Well we will have to see how this plays out. In many cases it is near impossible to determine fault. I don't think they really bother to determine fault because of that. The insurance companies really don't care who is at fault.

It is a positive in this case that they got some verbal acknowledgement from one employee. Doesn't mean that USAA won't try to stonewall or lowball them. The company knows that no one is going to hire a lawyer to contest a case involving a 18 year old car.
 





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