Unless those APs are out of state holders who have to stay in a hotel to come, like myself. I renewed when my pass expired in May knowing that when they opened things wouldn't be the same, but I was fine with that. I come enough I don't need to meet all the characters, watch fireworks I've already watched numerous times, and parades I've watched the same if not more times. By the time this pass expires I will have 27 parks days under my belt with it, and I know if they had not allowed me to renew in May I would be paying far more money for my tickets than what my AP cost. We were going to upgrade my DHs 8 day ph tickets during our trip to an AP, which has now been moved to Thanksgiving week from our original summer date when we had originally planned to do it. So now I've had to buy him 15 more tickets over the two trips after that since we can't upgrade and I needed to make park reservations. This also goes for my DDs who we were going to buy APs for this year for the first time, and again, I've had to buy them 15 days worth of tickets and will have to buy more for any trips after the last we have booked next summer if they don't bring back the ability to upgrade/purchase APs by then. They've made far more money from us than they would have had we purchased APs, and I think that is the main goal. They need/want every guest to have to shell out as much money as they can milk out of them, so if you're going to come on more than one trip you better be willing to pay more.And you add in that current AP holders are having a toughh time getting reservatons to the parks they want on the days they want. When your existing passholders can't get what they want adding more AP holders to the mix only makes it worse.
Why are other parks selling ap?
Are they still allowing renewal of annual passes even if they aren't selling new annual passes?
Disney basically hates APs right now. It is a slap in the face what they have done and I believe it will be a a fatal mistake. APs put a large investment in to the company and are now left to look in from outside the gate. I get they want to keep attendance in check but there are availabilities right now for the weekend unless you are an AP. In that case it is sorry charlie you are out of luck. I think the current week of passes should be open to APs since others usually know weeks in advance of a trip. But that is just MHO. Disney is making haters out of loyal fans. It could come back to bite them hard.
But they’re not. If you are a current AP holder, and you’re out of state, you can still travel down to WDW, utilize the AP room discounts, get into the resort guest bucket for park reservations and have a great time. Now, if you’re out of state and don’t currently have an AP, or opted for the refund instead of holding onto it, then yes, your out of luck right now.I can't agree with this strongly enough. Whined about it in here before but as an out of state AP holder, paying $1200 a person and essentially feel like Disney is doing everything in their power to keep me away. In the end they may get exactly what they are looking for.
Why not offer the Florida ticket discount to everyone? They are controlling attendance anyway. Why does it matter that someone is from Tampa or Bozeman MT? If anything the person from Bozeman would more likely need a hotel that they could sell them.
It just all comes down to who is in charge of Disney right now. A guy who has always made poor decisions and this one is gonna probably hurt in the long run. You did it to yourself Chapek.That's a good point.
And yeah, some of the biggest differences with Covid restrictions between Universal and Disney is how they're treating annual passholders. Both are limiting capacity, but Universal is still showing that it values current and new passholders.
They're holding a passholder appreciation event right now!
From everyone else's descriptions, certainly does't seem like Disney is showing much or any love to current passholders. And they're not even allowing anyone new to buy one. Why should I go spend my money there again? (rhetorical, and yeah, I probably will anyway...)
Florida/Annual Passholders have always been to "Fill in the Gaps" when the Parks aren't full. Typical APs spend less the more often they go. With limited capacity now, they want the "Big Spenders" to get first dibs on the limited slots. Remember, It's always about the money.
Exactly .. I feel Disney under-values and under appreciates their out-of-state passholders because of how the LOCAL APs spend their time and money at the parks.Florida passholders who live close to the parks, perhaps.
Also a large number of out of state passholders. These are people who would make 2-3 or more trips in a year, often staying at a Disney resort. Disney gets plenty of their money.
Often, passholders ARE big spenders. They just don't like to feel unappreciated or taken advantage of. If not allowed to purchase an AP, maybe they won't take those multiple trips? Maybe just 1 trip or no trip?
How often have ALL the parks reached capacity on any given day? Pretty much just Labor Day weekend? Plenty of room to keep passholders happy.
Again, I bought a Universal AP in June. I've made 3 separate trips, staying at a hotel each time. I'm probably going to make several more trips before it expires in September 2021 (valid for 15 months). How many trips to Disney have I made since then? 1. And it's unclear how many more I'll make under current conditions. But if I could get a good deal on a pass? Gamechanger. And I'd be visiting fairly often.
There is really no idea as to when APs will be sold again. Some think the beginning of 2021. Some think when hopping comes back. Some think they could be back much earlier. The best idea for you is to hold out as long as possible to purchase your tickets (hoping that park availability doesn’t become an issue too far out from your trip) and hope that APs become available again. But if you’re planning on traveling during the President’s day week (winter break for northeastern schools) you could begin having issues getting specific parks on certain days a bit further out from your trip.Good Morning
We are from Massachusetts and our driving down in Feb for an 11 day Disney trip, my question is do you think the annual passes will be around bye then or have heard any rumors? The reason beside the discounts and free parking at all the parks witch is a huge savings for us because we will be there for 11 days and our own car, and we also have a second trip planned for Dec 2021 for the 50th. So total we will be there for about 22 days, makes sense to buy Annual Passes...
I understand and appreciate the Disney is trying to manage expectations and etc., but I'm so tempted to get Universal Studios passes now just so I can get back to being a passholder again. Even if it's not with Disney.
Being from SoCal, of course I'm very familiar with USH, and not nearly as big a fan. In part because it was a longer drive, but also because I felt the theming was inferior and too many of the rides were essentially 4D movies and lacked repeatability. So, it never warranted having an annual pass. Are their Orlando parks any better?
Again, I appreciate that Disney is trying to do right by it's guests. However, I'd personally be OK with all the restrictions. I miss being in the parks so much, one tenth of a loaf is better than none. Perhaps could Disney give us 3 months extra (for example?) I remember when Disney gifted everyone an extra month on our passes for no reason at all (that I know of), so 3 months to make up for COVID restrictions makes perfect sense to me.
By the way, some of you may know me from Micechat. Excited to be part of this community!
Is Pete Werner the local Dusty Sage?Just curious!