Any Beer Enthusiast out there? Please help me!

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I asked this on another thread, but figured it is best here. I had this beer in Disneyland in August called "Red Trolley". I think the maker was Karl Strauss? I am pretty sure. Anyway, I would love to get a similiar tasting beer as this. In Disneyworld. Can anyone recommend one. TIA:goodvibes
 
I haven't had that beer since I lived in California. As far as I know, Red Trolley is only available in Southern California. I've never seen it anywhere else. As far as similar beers, there are some pretty good selections at Raglan Road at DownTown Disney. Hope that helps.
 
It's been a long while since I've had Red Trolley, But I remember it being a malty, sweet ESB (extra special bitter).

If you hit the Big Grille Breworks on the Boardwalk, I believe they brew a Red Ale, so make sure to look for that. That may be your best bet.

Rose and Crown in the UK pavillion in Epcot should have Bass as well as Boddingtons. While both aren't exactly a perfect fit, they are closer to what you may like from a malt/sweet perspective.

I've never checked out Raglan Road, but if they have a big selection, look for an ESB (extra special bitter) or just a 'bitter'. You'll probably love Fullers ESB which they may have on tap. If they've got some authentic UK taps, there bound to be a decent bitter/ESB there.
 
Thank you both very much for your replies.

Thanks for the names Brock. I will write them all down!!:goodvibes
A mental note. I like ESB's
 

The whole pale ale/IPA/ESB/amber ale issue can drive a beer fan nuts!

Personally, I tend to go on a hoppiness level, going from low hops to high hops:

amber -> ESB -> IPA -> super hopped IPAs (ie Victory's Hop Whallop, Weyerbacher's Hops Infusion, Troeg's Nugget Nectar etc ...)

I've had ESB's that were hoppier than other IPA's, but usually stick with my instincts that an ESB rides the nice line between a nice hoppiness, with still enough caramel likeness from the malts, while an IPA tends to reverse the other way with less maltiness, but more hops bite.

Again, all of this is open to interpretation, but I remember Red Trolley having a slight bit of hops bite vs some other amber ales I've had, while still being sweet. It really reminded me of my two favorite ESBs (Stoudt's Scarlet Lady Ale and Fuller's ESB).

Who knows though :confused3 As long there's plenty around for me to drink, I'm a happy camper
 
FWIW, Red Trolley technically is classified as an Amber Ale. More info and other options here.

Thank you! As you can see I know nothing about beers. I rarely drink. Only on holidays, and/or special occasions. So, when in DW. Because of the info I was able to gather from all of you. Now, I know what to ask for. :thumbsup2
 
I've never tasted Red Trolley, but after several trips to Mexico, I am hooked on Sol. It has to be one of the best summer time beers out there. Anyone know if they sell it at Mexico in Epcot? Or will I have to make a trip outside of Disney?
 
I've never tasted Red Trolley, but after several trips to Mexico, I am hooked on Sol. It has to be one of the best summer time beers out there. Anyone know if they sell it at Mexico in Epcot? Or will I have to make a trip outside of Disney?

I think Dos Equis may be the closest you'll find at Epcot. It's actually not all that bad for a Mexican brew.

I noticed your location is listed as Philly ... which happens to be in the heart of some of the world's best microbreweries. You've got Victory in Downingtown, and Dogfish Head down in Rehoboth, DE, both of which are world class (not to mention plenty of other great local micros like Troegs, Stoudt's, Yards, FLying Fish etc).

If you're looking for a good summer beer, please check around the local take-out stores for Victory's Whirlwind white ale or Sunrise wheat ... you can squeeze a little lemon in each. DogFish Head also recently bottled a peach fermented wheat beer called Festina Peche. It's not sweet at all, but a very light and tangy apricot tasting wheat brew.
 
Brocktoon, thanks for the recos on the beer. I've hit Iron Hill and the Sly Fox and you are right, we do have a lot of local brews that rock. If it's not Sol, then we usually have a case of Hoegarden on hand. Go Birds!
 
You know what I am at such a lost. I have no idea what hoppiness taste, ales, pale or amber is. I just know that you all say you think I would like an amber ale. So, I will ask at dinner that way. Two more questions, what is black and tan, or guiness. Are they amber ales?

Oh once I tried this beer yuesling(sp) I liked it pretty well also. But, no where near how I loved that red trolley, yummy!
 
You know what I am at such a lost. I have no idea what hoppiness taste, ales, pale or amber is. I just know that you all say you think I would like an amber ale. So, I will ask at dinner that way. Two more questions, what is black and tan, or guiness. Are they amber ales?

Oh once I tried this beer yuesling(sp) I liked it pretty well also. But, no where near how I loved that red trolley, yummy!

Yuengling is a local mass produced lager up here in Philly, and I think they now have a brewery near Tampa as well. Typical american mass produced beers (Coors, Bud, Miller) use a ton of rice, which is basically a no-no filler ingredient in beer. Yeungling, Red Trolley, and all of the other brews that don't use the rice give you some real flavor to your beer.

Guiness is a stout. Stout's and Porter's are very dark beer ... the best way to describe them is that they have a coffee or almost burnt quality to them. When you mix a porter or stout with a lighter beer, you get a black and tan. Supposedly the traditional black/tan is Harp Lager and Guiness Stout mixed. Yuengling bottles a black/tan that's a mix of thier basic beer (not thier lager) and thier porter.

A common misconception is that Guiness is very thick and heavy ... it's actually one of the thinnest beer out there, but people confuse the dark flavor with being 'heavy'.

There are tons of types of beer styles, but for basic simplicity, I'll break it down to three categories:

1) LIGHT SIDE: White and wheat brews. If you drop by the Germany pavilion in Epcot, try some Fraziskaner. This is a wheat brew that will be way lighter than something like Red Trolley. Outside of Epcot, look for any other wheat ot white brews like Hoegarden or Blue Moon.

2) MEDIUM: Let's throw all the reccomendations made ealier about the ESBs and amber ales into this group.

3) DARK: Stouts and Porters. Grab a Guiness while at Raglan Rd or Rose and Crown to get a idea of these.

The above is really making things basic, but if you try a Franziskaner, Red Trolley, and a Guiness you'll get an idea of the beer spectrum.

As for hopiness, compare any standard beer like Bud, Miller etc .., and then try a Sam Adams (stadard boston lager). Sam Adams is one of the more hopped mass produced beers. That 'tang' or bite you get after a swallow of Sam Adams is from the hops, that you don't get with Bud/Coors. Once you recognize that hops bite, you can compare it among beer.

Well, the above is probably a decent primer to beer tasting. Again, if you get the chance while at Epcot, try the Fraziskaner and Guiness to see what you like. Just because everyone loves Guiness, doesn't mean you have to as well.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of stouts and porters, and I HATE Guiness. Yet one of my favorite beers is an English Stout (Samuel Smith Outmeal Stout).

I guess the moral is to find a style you like, but never be afraid to try any new beer, as you just might find a hidden gem.

Hopefully anybody nervous about beer found the above useful. As you can tell, I love beer, and wish for the day when beer tasting is held right up there with wine tasting
 
Yuengling is a local mass produced lager up here in Philly, and I think they now have a brewery near Tampa as well. Typical american mass produced beers (Coors, Bud, Miller) use a ton of rice, which is basically a no-no filler ingredient in beer. Yeungling, Red Trolley, and all of the other brews that don't use the rice give you some real flavor to your beer.

Guiness is a stout. Stout's and Porter's are very dark beer ... the best way to describe them is that they have a coffee or almost burnt quality to them. When you mix a porter or stout with a lighter beer, you get a black and tan. Supposedly the traditional black/tan is Harp Lager and Guiness Stout mixed. Yuengling bottles a black/tan that's a mix of thier basic beer (not thier lager) and thier porter.

A common misconception is that Guiness is very thick and heavy ... it's actually one of the thinnest beer out there, but people confuse the dark flavor with being 'heavy'.

There are tons of types of beer styles, but for basic simplicity, I'll break it down to three categories:

1) LIGHT SIDE: White and wheat brews. If you drop by the Germany pavilion in Epcot, try some Fraziskaner. This is a wheat brew that will be way lighter than something like Red Trolley. Outside of Epcot, look for any other wheat ot white brews like Hoegarden or Blue Moon.

2) MEDIUM: Let's throw all the reccomendations made ealier about the ESBs and amber ales into this group.

3) DARK: Stouts and Porters. Grab a Guiness while at Raglan Rd or Rose and Crown to get a idea of these.

The above is really making things basic, but if you try a Franziskaner, Red Trolley, and a Guiness you'll get an idea of the beer spectrum.

As for hopiness, compare any standard beer like Bud, Miller etc .., and then try a Sam Adams (stadard boston lager). Sam Adams is one of the more hopped mass produced beers. That 'tang' or bite you get after a swallow of Sam Adams is from the hops, that you don't get with Bud/Coors. Once you recognize that hops bite, you can compare it among beer.

Well, the above is probably a decent primer to beer tasting. Again, if you get the chance while at Epcot, try the Fraziskaner and Guiness to see what you like. Just because everyone loves Guiness, doesn't mean you have to as well.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of stouts and porters, and I HATE Guiness. Yet one of my favorite beers is an English Stout (Samuel Smith Outmeal Stout).

I guess the moral is to find a style you like, but never be afraid to try any new beer, as you just might find a hidden gem.

Hopefully anybody nervous about beer found the above useful. As you can tell, I love beer, and wish for the day when beer tasting is held right up there with wine tasting

Brocktoon,

Thank you so much, for taking the time to educate me. I think I now have a better view of beer. I did not know, at all that they put rice as filler' in some of the American mass produced beers you mentioned. I will definately scout out the beers, you suggested! Thanks again, you have helped me greatly!!
:goodvibes :hug:
 
For my money, Guinness from the tap is the best thing. Very smooth and almost creamy tasting. I will drink it from bottles or cans, but on tap is the best. I had both a pint of Guinness and a Black and Tan at Raglan Road. Yumm. That was a good pit stop.
 
speaking of beer, I am from the beautiful NW and we have many micro brews. Do they carry any micro brews down at DW?
 
Hopefully anybody nervous about beer found the above useful. As you can tell, I love beer, and wish for the day when beer tasting is held right up there with wine tasting


I am right there with ya! Beer needs it's spot light too!
 
Blackrose: I guess the beers at Big River Grill could be called microbrews, but you have to go to that restaurant to get them. In season, their Wowzer's Wheat is pretty good.
Unfortunately, by the beer standards outlined so well by Broctoon, WDW is pretty "beer challanged".
Haven't been there in quite awhile, but the Crew's Cup Lounge at the Yachtsman used to carry Dixie Vodoo.
Can't recall ever seeing Blue Moon or Hoegarden at WDW. Sam Adams Seasonal (Summer Ale) is actually somewhat "Blue Moon-ish " in taste. But I doubt you'll find any at Disney.
And for what (little) it's worth, my favorite mainstream beer is Killians. Dark, but on the "sweet" side of things. I also like it's stronger cousin Smithwicks, which I think you can get at Raglan Road.
 
Le Cellier was stocking Unibroue's beers, and I'm hoping they still do. Unibroue is a Canadian brewery specializing in Belgian style beer. If you've never tried any Belgian brews, they are very strong, and very textured and complex. When I say strong, I'm talking 9-10% alcohol (Bud, Coors usually runs ~3-4%) Unibroue makes some of the best beers in the world, so it was a real treat knocking back a few while at Le Cellier. For all the people who managed to get ADR's at Le Cellier, I'd look for:

Blanche De Chambly - wheat/white beer
Fin Du Monde - strong Belgian Ale
Maudite - strong dark belgian ale

Out of the three, Fin Du Monde is my fav. We're eating at LC twice on my upcoming trip, so I'm looking forward to these brews
 
Blackrose: I guess the beers at Big River Grill could be called microbrews, but you have to go to that restaurant to get them. In season, their Wowzer's Wheat is pretty good.
Unfortunately, by the beer standards outlined so well by Broctoon, WDW is pretty "beer challanged".
Haven't been there in quite awhile, but the Crew's Cup Lounge at the Yachtsman used to carry Dixie Vodoo.
Can't recall ever seeing Blue Moon or Hoegarden at WDW. Sam Adams Seasonal (Summer Ale) is actually somewhat "Blue Moon-ish " in taste. But I doubt you'll find any at Disney.
And for what (little) it's worth, my favorite mainstream beer is Killians. Dark, but on the "sweet" side of things. I also like it's stronger cousin Smithwicks, which I think you can get at Raglan Road.

I was at the Crew's Cup Lounge over the 4th of July weekend, and they no longer have Dixie Vodoo. A shame in my opinion. They did have Blue Moon on tap last September, but not this past week. I agree, WDW is pretty beer challenged. This is starting to be a great thread. I hope it continues.
 
With all this talk about beer, where's the best place (variety & cost) to purchase beer offsite?


"The beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad, so I had one more for dessert." - Johnny Cash
 







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