Any adult Dis'ers into Hardcore Metal?

[metalis4ever]

See, I hate Lacuna Coil (Kitty, I think I mentioned something about not liking Iwrestledabearonce- oh dear god- when their music comes on feel like an ice pick is being shoved into my brain- I am not a fan of chicas). bleck.

I am a picky metal fan. I can hate bands. Just b/c it is metal does not mean I like it. I have to enjoy what I hear.

But- you say Chimaira are posers!!!?? Get out- I really like them. What makes them posers? Inquiring minds need to know.



Well- you be a good boy and keep taking that Oxy....and eating ice cream (OK, so I get my medical advice from Cindy Brady!)

Ohh I completely agree I don't like a band just because they are Metal they do have to sound good but I do respect them for example I despise Dying Fetus I can't stand anything they have done musically but I respect them because they are Metal.

I disagree with you I love female vocals, although like you I can't stand iwrestledabearonce , their songs are funny and different but they are a one trick pony and when the trick gets old so do they......But yeah I can name about 20 female fronted or co-fronted bands that I absolutely love...Walls of Jericho, Matriarch, Leaves' Eye, Sinergy, Arch Enemy, Epica, Battlelore, Theatre of Tragedy, Angtoria, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Doro, Imperia, Tristania, Krypteria, Season's End, Sirenia, To Mera, Amberian Dawn...... You don't know what you are missing

I loathe Chimaira, I don't respect them at all and it's not because they are metalcore I listen to plenty of metalcore after all I grew up in the Boston scene which is one of the birth places of metalcore. The Boston melodic hardcore style really helped form the sub-genre in the late 90's with bands such as Diecast, Shadows Fall, Unearth and then later Killswitch Engage and others kind of picking up where New York greats Vision of Disorder left off.....

Anyway I only called Chimaira Posers because they had no place playing with True Metal bands such as Immortal and Manowar and they deserved the treatment/reception they got....Other bands get the same Massachusetts welcome when they play with bands they shouldn't. Another great example is Horse the Band every time they play with Metal bands they get booed and rightfully so as they do not belong. Bands like that should either tour with other bands that are similar to them such as Hatebreed, Snapcase or the metalcore flavor of the month or with Nu/ Alternative Metal (aka Hard Rock) bands such as Silent Civilian/ Spineshank, Soulfly, Static-X etc....I don't know what it is about Chimaira maybe its because they are from the Mid West I seem to have this immense dislike for hard rock bands out of the Mid West Slipknot, Mudvayne and Chimaira all garbage lol or it could be I just don't like hard rock Hmmmm I will have to do some research on this to see if there is 1 single band that I respect or listen to out of the Mid West....

Sorry about the length, if you couldn't tell due to the time off from work with surgery recovery I am wicked bored, plus I am hoped up on Oxy

 

[metalis4ever]

Ouch, sorry to hear that. I'm hoping to go to that concert when it comes to Milwaukee. But I know I'll be standing farther back when Gwar plays...I don't wanna get covered in Gwar juice.
It seems like most people here listen to more of the "older" metal. Does anybody like the newer, death/prog metal? I like those bands the best (Between the Buried and Me, The Black Dahlia Murder, etc.)

I listen to "newer" bands as well but the originals or as you said "older" bands can not be over played as they rule all that is Metal....I am not sure what you mean by "older" either...Death Metal has only been around since the late 80's early 90's and didn't really grow on a huge level until the 90's..Also the two bands you named are nearly a decade old so do you mean "newer" as in the past decade? Or even "newer"?...I am just asking for clarification because I can recommend a bunch of bands for you to listen to either way like maddhatir said Brocktoon is the Prog Metal expert but I will give you a few Progessive Death Metal, Progressive Metalcore, and Progressive Metal bands both underground and popular to check out that have formed within the past decade....Here are a few off the top of my head that I know for starters I am sure Brocktoon will give you a few more.....

100 Knives Inside, Voodoo Hill, Alley, Love Forsaken, Infernal Doom, The Kris Norris Projekt, and The Great Collapse......

 

[maddhatir]

Guess all I had to do was look a couple pages back...

They're definitely my favorite band, everybody in the band is soo talented.
I don't know what you listened to but this is my favorite song of all time. My favorite part is 6:42, that part of the solo is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKQSe3TatPQ
As for his vocals, he does have a good singing voice. They have an amazing CD that has covers of Queen, Pink Floyd and a bunch others. He has awesome falsetto too(I think that's what it's called) like at 6:20 in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EVA9N5tJQA
That might be too much info, haha, but I love that band.

Haha, I don't want the be that guy.

Thanks Andy- I will give the clips a listen!

I disagree with you I love female vocals, although like you I can't stand iwrestledabearonce , their songs are funny and different but they are a one trick pony and when the trick gets old so do they......But yeah I can name about 20 female fronted or co-fronted bands that I absolutely love...Walls of Jericho, Matriarch, Leaves' Eye, Sinergy, Arch Enemy, Epica, Battlelore, Theatre of Tragedy, Angtoria, Nightwish, Within Temptation, After Forever, Doro, Imperia, Tristania, Krypteria, Season's End, Sirenia, To Mera, Amberian Dawn...... You don't know what you are missing

I DO luv Arch Enemy- I think I mentioned before that I do not put Angela in the catagory of "female" singer She is kick @$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really need to see them live.

Another great example is Horse the Band every time they play with Metal bands they get booed and rightfully so as they do not belong

Funny you mention them- Liquid Metal started playing them recently. I can't say I even remember what they sound like. I just remember seeing their name going across my receiver.

Bands like that should either tour with other bands that are similar to them such as Hatebreed, Snapcase or the metalcore flavor of the month or with Nu/ Alternative Metal (aka Hard Rock) bands such as Silent Civilian/ Spineshank, Soulfly, Static-X etc....

Also like the Cavalera Bros aka Cavalera Conspiracy and Sepultura (definately NOT from the Mid-West)

Static X- I can live without.

Sorry about the length, if you couldn't tell due to the time off from work with surgery recovery I am wicked bored, plus I am hoped up on Oxy

No apologies needed!

Not sure if you watch the Showtime series, Nurse Jackie- but on one episode, this young woman was brought into Jackie's ER. Jackie found out the woman was taking Vicodin for a while, just for fun anyway- the woman was on her honeymoon in NYC and she thought since she was on her honeymoon- she would not "need" it. She was brought into the ER with severe stomach pains.

Jackie found out the woman was taking Vicodin and told her you cannot just stop taking it, you need to wean off of it to avoid the severe withdrawl syptoms.

The young woman said she liked it "because when you take it- it is like the happiest day of your life!" Now does that explain the feeling of the Oxy?!

 

[metalis4ever]

Thanks Andy- I will give the clips a listen!



I DO luv Arch Enemy- I think I mentioned before that I do not put Angela in the catagory of "female" singer She is kick @$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really need to see them live.



Funny you mention them- Liquid Metal started playing them recently. I can't say I even remember what they sound like. I just remember seeing their name going across my receiver.



Also like the Cavalera Bros aka Cavalera Conspiracy and Sepultura (definately NOT from the Mid-West)

Static X- I can live without.




No apologies needed!

Not sure if you watch the Showtime series, Nurse Jackie- but on one episode, this young woman was brought into Jackie's ER. Jackie found out the woman was taking Vicodin for a while, just for fun anyway- the woman was on her honeymoon in NYC and she thought since she was on her honeymoon- she would not "need" it. She was brought into the ER with severe stomach pains.

Jackie found out the woman was taking Vicodin and told her you cannot just stop taking it, you need to wean off of it to avoid the severe withdrawl syptoms.

The young woman said she liked it "because when you take it- it is like the happiest day of your life!" Now does that explain the feeling of the Oxy?!

I only mentioned Soulfly because they are Nu Metal so bands such as Chimaira are better suited touring with Nu Metal bands as opposed to True Metal bands...Don't get me wrong just because they are Nu Metal doesn't make them bad I love Soulfly but they are what they are and they are Nu Metal....The difference being is that Soulfly can almost get away with playing with Metal bands because of Max but if you notice they don't even bother because they know that is not their fan base which was my point with Chimaira and others like them they should know their fan base and stick to it.....

Horse the Band are "nintendo-core" Gardbage...I almost hate them as much as Slipknot, Mudvayne and Chimaira along with all other Mid West Nu Metal Hard Rock bands but not quite See my hatred for music form the Mid West runs deep, although is Wisconsin considered the Mid West? because that would blow up my theory as there used to be a Milwaukee Death Metal Festival.....

Yes the "happiest day of your life" sensation is spot on except for today I am touchy today but I think that's because I am in a ton of pain and the Oxy isn't helping I would double the dose but I don't want to be like this guy


Anyway I know it's off topic but I am going to Ring of Honor in Boston tonight...one of the last shows for Brian Danielson and Nigel McGuiness as they signed with the WWE..I am pumped I get to see them one last time in a small venue before they hit the big time!!!

 

[maddhatir]

Anyway I know it's off topic but I am going to Ring of Honor in Boston tonight...one of the last shows for Brian Danielson and Nigel McGuiness as they signed with the WWE..I am pumped I get to see them one last time in a small venue before they hit the big time!!!

Oh god my younger brother was SO into wrestling in the 80s and 90s!

I went to a wrestling match once. My cousin was BIG into Rowdy Roddy Piper- He, DH and I (BF at the time) went to a match in Philly. Well, my cousin got into a fight with someone in the crowd b/c they hated Roddy Piper (and it could be b/c my cousin was wearing a KILT!) and my cousin got kicked out of the arena Yeah- we left too.

And my next wrestling encounter was in the 90s. I was at my chiropractors office in NJ. There was an odd looking guy (as in big, long hair- just not someone you see if your chiros office) sitting in the waiting room too. He was talking to another big guy he was with.

When I went in to see my chiro I asked who it was- he said it was Raven. I had no idea who Raven was until I mentioned it to some people and they knew him- they said he would say "What about me? What about Raven?" I have no idea what that meant- but I still say it to this day b/c I thought it was funny

Have fun!

 

[maddhatir]

Liquid Metal was playing Kreator, and I thought it was funny that they are showing this on the display
Kreator/Roots of Vegetarian Metal Being a veghead myself- I LUV it!

I was surprised to see some of the heavy bands/members into vegan/vegetarianism!

Kreator
Carcass (fitting name)
Naplam Death
Celtic Frost
Between The Buried And Me
As I Lay Dying
Killswitch Engage

Just a tid-bit of metal info

 

[APX]

You forgot to add Cattle Decapitation into the vegan metal bands.

 

[maddhatir]

You forgot to add Cattle Decapitation into the vegan metal bands.

Cattle Decapitation, Carcass, I have to go and check to see if their names refer to something specificly vegan, or is it tongue in cheek

ETA- I did not know that CD songs were about animal cruelty and meat processing. I heard a song of theirs in the past, but never paid attention to the words (well, if I could understand the words that is) So their name and act is to draw attention to the problem. Now I know!

 

[APX]

Yeah, their all Vegan, and all of their songs are replacing the animals that are used for meat/testing/etc. with humans, so they can understand.

 

[andy.b]

I think some guys in Lamb of God are vegans too.

 

[bwaite01]

I am into Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Children of Bodom, In Flames, Wintersun, Kalmah, Arch Enemy, Lamb of God. just to name a few, but for me to like them there has to be a lot of good guitar work. Not just rhythm guitars tuned in B or lower like a lot of new metal bands.

 

[Brocktoon]

Hey Brock- DH and I were in the city this weekend- we ate and had some beers at the Good Dog Bar! Ever been?

Is that the place where they stuff the cheese inside the burger? I'm pretty sure I've been there a few times and enjoyed it. It's right near Monk's Cafe, which is considered one of the best Belgian beer bars in the world. Monk's has become way too trendy over the past couple years though, and gets packed with tons of yuppie types who go there just to be seen ... it's a freakin' shame. Actually, I really hate heading into the city, or more exact I hate driving in the city. It's pain trying to find my way around and find decent parking.

When I do head out to the Electric Factory, there's a cool local beer bar in Northern Liberties call The Standard Tap. The food's not too bad, and they have a killer local microbrew selection.

BTW I listened to the new Megadeth on the pain meds and it still didn't make it sound good ...Definitely the worst album out of their last 3 releases...having said that it is still better than anything metallica has put out since 1989.... Dave you lost a few battles but you have won the Metal war

Yeah, at first I though the new Megadeth wasn't too bad, but it's sounding pretty uninspired after multiple listens. I think it's still better than United Abominations, but I thought The System has Failed was the best of their recent recordings.

Does anybody like the newer, death/prog metal? I like those bands the best (Between the Buried and Me, The Black Dahlia Murder, etc.)

Surprisingly my progressive metal catalog is pretty narrow. Probably Cynic, Death, Mastodon, and Opeth would be my favorites. BTBM is hit/miss for me, but like I've mentioned, I think Colors is freakin' amazing.

A lot of the prog I listen to would probably be considered on the border of metal, and more like harder prog-rock. Stuff like Dream Theater, Sprial Architect, Spastic Ink, Planet X ...

My favorite prog band for the past couple years would be Porcupine Tree. They're sort of a like modern Pink Floyd with a little bit of a harder King Crimson vibe. Riverside, a Polish prog-rock band, has also been a favorite of mine. They're sort of like a mix of Tool, Dream Theater, and Floyd, with vocals that sound like David Gahan (Depeche Mode).

 

[andy.b]

Speaking of iwrestledabearonce, my friend gave me their cd this weekend. Some parts are like, "ok, thats sort of cool" but most of the time it's "wt* is this?" I could definitely deal without the singer and the weird techno deals they have going on half the time.

Surprisingly my progressive metal catalog is pretty narrow. Probably Cynic, Death, Mastodon, and Opeth would be my favorites. BTBM is hit/miss for me, but like I've mentioned, I think Colors is freakin' amazing.

Mine is too. I really only put that because two of my favorite bands are prog or some sort of it (BTBAM and Protest the Hero, Mastodon is up there too, though.)

 

[maddhatir]

Is that the place where they stuff the cheese inside the burger? I'm pretty sure I've been there a few times and enjoyed it. It's right near Monk's Cafe, which is considered one of the best Belgian beer bars in the world. Monk's has become way too trendy over the past couple years though, and gets packed with tons of yuppie types who go there just to be seen ... it's a freakin' shame. Actually, I really hate heading into the city, or more exact I hate driving in the city. It's pain trying to find my way around and find decent parking.

We love the city. We go during the day on Sat or Sun so the parking is not bad. I know the area very well. If you go to South Street there is an "inexpensive" parking garage right by Head House Sq. we parked there when we saw Gojira at the TLA. When we are heading to Walnut street, we just park at the Holiday Inn on (11th?) and Walnut. Rght next to Naked Chocolate- UGH! Have you ever been there and tried their "drinking chocolate"!!!?

Northern Liberties- believe it or not, we are not familiar with that part of the city. We rarely cross the highway to that side. Is that by the Eastern State Penitentiary??? We have been there a few times.

I forgot all about Monks. I have been reading about that place for years! We have to get there! "To be seen"??? Tell the yups to sit the hell down and drink a good beer, no one wants to see their sorry @$$es! Get out of the way so I can start trying some beers I would have to poke some eyes out in that joint!

Yes- Good Dog's burger has the cheese in the middle. I have GOT to tell you about the most incredible beer *I* have ever had there. It is made by Phila Brewing Co- it is called "Joe" Coffee Stout OMG! As soon as you put the glass up to your nose you can smell the coffee and chocolate! I actually have been e-mailing PBC back and forth about it. It is not out in South Jersey yet. Maybe Nov. But we can go their brewery in Kensington to get cases for $25!!! We just might grab our bullet proof vests and head on over Yes- The beer is literally "to die for"

We did go to a place in South Jersey yesterday to try more beers- it is called The Pour House in Westmont on Haddon Ave. 112 bottled beers and about 15 on tap! It is owned by PJ Wheelihans. We will be back.

Sorry metal peeps for being OT!

OK- I will add something about metal- only 31 days 'til Lamb of God!!!!!!

 

[darkautumn6669]

I only mentioned Soulfly because they are Nu Metal so bands such as Chimaira are better suited touring with Nu Metal bands as opposed to True Metal bands...Don't get me wrong just because they are Nu Metal doesn't make them bad I love Soulfly but they are what they are and they are Nu Metal....The difference being is that Soulfly can almost get away with playing with Metal bands because of Max but if you notice they don't even bother because they know that is not their fan base which was my point with Chimaira and others like them they should know their fan base and stick to it.....

Horse the Band are "nintendo-core" Gardbage...I almost hate them as much as Slipknot, Mudvayne and Chimaira along with all other Mid West Nu Metal Hard Rock bands but not quite See my hatred for music form the Mid West runs deep, although is Wisconsin considered the Mid West? because that would blow up my theory as there used to be a Milwaukee Death Metal Festival.....

Yes the "happiest day of your life" sensation is spot on except for today I am touchy today but I think that's because I am in a ton of pain and the Oxy isn't helping I would double the dose but I don't want to be like this guy


Anyway I know it's off topic but I am going to Ring of Honor in Boston tonight...one of the last shows for Brian Danielson and Nigel McGuiness as they signed with the WWE..I am pumped I get to see them one last time in a small venue before they hit the big time!!!

Hi Metal

I was with you at one of the many shows at the Palladium in Worcester when that horrible band Horse the Band was virtually booed off the stage I was at the Palldium ( it's in Worcester Ma for those who haven't heard of it) for the King'sX, Hammerfall, Blind Guardian show and Hammerfall went on first and played like 5 songs and absolutely killed it...Then King's X came on and after the first song the crowd started chanting Hammerfall The guitarist was so pissed that he was like "you people are the worst fans ever" so then the crowd just started booing and started a King's X sucks chant. So they played their set and just walked off and the guitarist gave us the bird as he walked off. That was before we knew each other Anthony I mean Metalis4ever were you there? I know you go to every metal show that comes through our way just curious....

BTW I agree with you completely Chimaira are awful and I think you are spot on with bands from the mid-west I can't think of one good one either.. Although my guilty pleasure is from Chicago Disturbed but you probably despise them since they are not Metal Hence why they are my guilty pleasure. But I think you are right though I can't think of one True Metal band from the mid-west just nu-metal stuff sorry I know you hate tat term but whatever

Sorry for the OT but how's the wifey?

 

[maddhatir]

Welcome darkautumn!

Has anyone seen the new Behemoth vid for Ov Fire and The Void? They are censoring the darn thing b/c of a few ****s! Give me a break! (ETA- OMG- we can't even say the Boo word for, breasts???!) Ya know what made me sick, was watching them shove feathers into their mouths towards the end of the vid Now THAT was gross.

You can find the uncensored vid on Metal Blade.

The song is just KICK @$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I crank it up until the house shakes!

 

[metalis4ever]

Hi Metal

I was with you at one of the many shows at the Palladium in Worcester when that horrible band Horse the Band was virtually booed off the stage I was at the Palldium ( it's in Worcester Ma for those who haven't heard of it) for the King'sX, Hammerfall, Blind Guardian show and Hammerfall went on first and played like 5 songs and absolutely killed it...Then King's X came on and after the first song the crowd started chanting Hammerfall The guitarist was so pissed that he was like "you people are the worst fans ever" so then the crowd just started booing and started a King's X sucks chant. So they played their set and just walked off and the guitarist gave us the bird as he walked off. That was before we knew each other Anthony I mean Metalis4ever were you there? I know you go to every metal show that comes through our way just curious....

BTW I agree with you completely Chimaira are awful and I think you are spot on with bands from the mid-west I can't think of one good one either.. Although my guilty pleasure is from Chicago Disturbed but you probably despise them since they are not Metal Hence why they are my guilty pleasure. But I think you are right though I can't think of one True Metal band from the mid-west just nu-metal stuff sorry I know you hate tat term but whatever

Sorry for the OT but how's the wifey?

HEY VICKIE errrrrr DarkAutumn6669 ..you're s/n is ridiculous btw you are so Black Metal you don't even know it Actually I know you do which is the scary part

I was indeed at that Blind Guardian show however due to a flat tire I made it right before Blind Guardian took the stage but I heard about the shenanigans you speak of. I probably would have been the only one cheering as I enjoy King's X although they don't belong touring with Hammerfall and Blind Guardian yet another great example of a band going on tour with the wrong bands.

Speaking of shows in our area are you going to the Obituary/ Goat Whre/ Krisiun/Beserker / warbringer show this Wendesday? I may and I know Ben is but let me know if you are and if I am fully recovered from surgery I will meet up with you at the show

Anyone else going or have gone to that show in your area?

What about anyone else going to any of these upcoming shows? I am going to hit at least 5 or 6 if not all of these.....Tis the Season for Metal Shows Woooo!!!!

- Dragonforce/ Sonata Arctica / Taking Dawn

- Satyricon/Bleeding Through/Chthonic

-Hethenfest featuring Eluveitie / Belphegor / Alestorm/ Kivimetsan Druidi / Vried

- Vader/Decrepit Birth / Warbringer/ The Amenta / Augury/ Swashbuckle

- Marduk/ Nachtmystium / Mantic Ritual/ Black Anvil / Merrimack

- Ensiferum/ Hypocrisy / Ex Deo / Blackguard

- Municipal Waste/Brutal Truth / Phobia / Cauldron

- Hatebreed/ Cannibal Corpse / Unearth / Hate Eternal/ Thy Will Be Done

- Nile/ Immolation / Krisiun/ Abigail Williams/ Dreaming Dead

- Epica

I am definitely hitting Heathenfest and the Vader show because of Alestorm and Swashbuckle...Pirate Metal Rules Arrrrggghhhh!!! and I am definitely hitting Epica I have wanted to see them for a while....

 

[metalis4ever]

Welcome darkautumn!

Has anyone seen the new Behemoth vid for Ov Fire and The Void? They are censoring the darn thing b/c of a few ****s! Give me a break! (ETA- OMG- we can't even say the Boo word for, breasts???!) Ya know what made me sick, was watching them shove feathers into their mouths towards the end of the vid Now THAT was gross.

You can find the uncensored vid on Metal Blade.

The song is just KICK @$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I crank it up until the house shakes!

That video is so f'n Metal Stupid Censors Stupid Energy

 

[maddhatir]

Anyone else going or have gone to that show in your area?

I think my brother went to the show last night in Phily- I have not talked to him.

What about anyone else going to any of these upcoming shows? I am going to hit at least 5 or 6 if not all of these.....Tis the Season for Metal Shows Woooo!!!!

- Hatebreed/ Cannibal Corpse / Unearth / Hate Eternal/ Thy Will Be Done
....

You ARE the man!!!!

I want my Cannibal Corpse and I can get it on Dec 20th in Philly! I did not even know they were coming. I have to check and see if tix are on sale yet!

I've seen Unearth before and liked them. So this means I get to see Hatebreed 2x in as many months!? Too cool.

Checked and tix not on sale yet-- I have to wait patiently.

Thanks Metal!

 

[metalis4ever]

I think my brother went to the show last night in Phily- I have not talked to him.



You ARE the man!!!!

I want my Cannibal Corpse and I can get it on Dec 20th in Philly! I did not even know they were coming. I have to check and see if tix are on sale yet!

I've seen Unearth before and liked them. So this means I get to see Hatebreed 2x in as many months!? Too cool.

Checked and tix not on sale yet-- I have to wait patiently.

Thanks Metal!

No Prob Hope you have fun!! Yeah Unearth are from Massachusetts so I have seen them at least a dozen times mostly back in the late 90's when they were hardcore / metalcore...Now they have become that weird hybrid of Metalcore/ New American Thrash which I find so strange i don't get how the two can be combined but it's the new thing these days...Speaking of Thy Will Be Done are really good I have seen them a few times as well and each time they impressed me. My buddies *cough, cough* hardcore band got Thy Will Be Done to headline their show a few months ago so they could actually get people to show up it was a good show...even though I can't stand Hardcore kids they are so annoying but I am sure they feel the same about us Metal Heads...It's hard for me to say I even like Thy Will Be Done considering they are Christian Metalcore *vomit* but I have to admit lyrics aside their really solid......Search on youtube for Thy Will Be Done- And Fire Will Fall which in my opinion is their best song.....But you will see what I mean by Christian Metalcore especially with the lyrics LOL Them on tour with Cannibal Corpse should lead to some hilarious stories.......