Another Use Year question!

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If we will be primarily vacationing in March what do we want our user year to be? Can we choose our user year with Disney or is it applied when we buy. We won't be buying until April. TIA
 
If you are purchasing through Disney, you can select your use year (UY). If you are buying a resale, then you take the UY of whatever contract you are purchasing.
 
you can pick your UY month.

it used to be that you picked the UY so that if you travelled in one month or season you wanted to be able to bank your points if you had to cancel so if you travelled mostly in Jan Feb like we do you'd pick a Sept

so say i was travelling in Jan 08 and used Sept 07 points to pay for it - if I have to cancel in November or December and cant' rebook the trip i have until the end of Feb to bank the points.

BUT = i did hear that they were changing the banking points policy and maybe someone else can confirm this but I think they were going to do away with the whole mess of time-lines. 6 months to bank 100%, 4 months to bank 75% and so on - it can drive you crazy trying to remember all the save dates.
 
If we were to purchase through Disney. With the new banking guidelines I am confused as to when to choose it if we are vacationing primarily in March...:confused:
 

Personally, I think getting the best deal is more important than trying to get a use year that complements your vacation schedule.

Disney's current practice is to give you a full set of current points when you buy. So if you buy a February Use Year contract in April 2008, you get full 2008 points. If you buy a July Use Year contract in April 2008, you get full 2007 points plus full 2008 points come July 1st.

For somebody who typically vacations in March, the February contract has the advantage if you have to cancel a trip. But getting the better deal of the July contract is more important in my book.
 
Personally, I think getting the best deal is more important than trying to get a use year that complements your vacation schedule.

Disney's current practice is to give you a full set of current points when you buy. So if you buy a February Use Year contract in April 2008, you get full 2008 points. If you buy a July Use Year contract in April 2008, you get full 2007 points plus full 2008 points come July 1st.

For somebody who typically vacations in March, the February contract has the advantage if you have to cancel a trip. But getting the better deal of the July contract is more important in my book.

I actually understood this! Ok so if we got a July user year and we primarily go in March (our needs will change as we and the kids get older) when would we have to bank by and when would I have to cancel by (or is that the same?)
You have been very helpful thanks!
 
Use year does not affect when you can go (anytime of year) or when you can call to reserve (11 months out at home resort or 7 at others). The banking/cancellation issue is the only one that can affect choice of use year and it goes like this via example:

1. Assume you have a March use year. That means points go yearly into your account on March 1 of each year and your use year ends at the end of Feb the next year.

2. Effective Jan 1, 2008, the new banking rule will be that you can bank any or all of your use year points from a current use year into the next use year at any time up to 120 days before the end of that current use year. Thus, with a March use year, you will have essentially until the end of October of the use year to bank any or all of your points into the next use year. Between beginning of Nov and end of Feb you cannot do any more banking.

3. When you cancel a reservation, all of your points go back to the same status they had before you reserved except that if you cancel 30 days or less before date of arrival, all points in that reservation go into a holding account and must be used by end of the applicable use year in which you had the reservation. Thus, the banking rules can have no effect if you cancel 30 days or less before date of arrival because the holding account rule already eliminates any possible banking.

4. Now assume you call in February 2008 and use points to be issued March 1, 2008, for reserving a January 2009 trip. You get to mid-November 2008 and then realize that you have to cancel. You are not affected by the holding account rule because you cancel more than 30 days out. However, you are affected by the banking rule. Because it is Nov 2008 when you cancel, you are beyond the eight month period to bank any points. Those points go back into your account as March 2008 points and have to be used by Feb 2009 or be lost because you cannot bank them.

5. Now assume that instead of a Jan 2009 ressie, you make a July 2008 ressie with those points you are getting March 2008. In May 2008 you learn you have to cancel. You are not affected by the holding account rule because you are cancelling more than 30 days out. You are also not affected adversely by the banking rule -- those points go back into your March 2008 use year and you have until end of Oct 2008 to bank them all.

6. Thus, the examples show how your ability to bank upon cancellation can be affected by your use year in comparison to time of your trip. If you go at the same time every year (and plan to do so long into the future), you should consider getting a use year that begins sometime shortly before you usually go. In fact, you can actually choose any use year that begins eight months or less before time you usually go and still be safe under the banking rule. In your situation if you usually go in March, then a March use year does the trick, as does any use year that begins between August and March (there is no July use year). Note, however, that for many the choice ultimately becomes irrelevant over time because they may start out going the same time every year but, as families age, the time of going to WDW starts to vary
 
Use year does not affect when you can go (anytime of year) or when you can call to reserve (11 months out at home resort or 7 at others). The banking/cancellation issue is the only one that can affect choice of use year and it goes like this via example:

1. Assume you have a March use year. That means points go yearly into your account on March 1 of each year and your use year ends at the end of Feb the next year.

2. Effective Jan 1, 2008, the new banking rule will be that you can bank any or all of your use year points from a current use year into the next use year at any time up to 120 days before the end of that current use year. Thus, with a March use year, you will have essentially until the end of October of the use year to bank any or all of your points into the next use year. Between beginning of Nov and end of Feb you cannot do any more banking.

3. When you cancel a reservation, all of your points go back to the same status they had before you reserved except that if you cancel 30 days or less before date of arrival, all points in that reservation go into a holding account and must be used by end of the applicable use year in which you had the reservation. Thus, the banking rules can have no effect if you cancel 30 days or less before date of arrival because the holding account rule already eliminates any possible banking.

4. Now assume you call in February 2008 and use points to be issued March 1, 2008, for reserving a January 2009 trip. You get to mid-November 2008 and then realize that you have to cancel. You are not affected by the holding account rule because you cancel more than 30 days out. However, you are affected by the banking rule. Because it is Nov 2008 when you cancel, you are beyond the eight month period to bank any points. Those points go back into your account as March 2008 points and have to be used by Feb 2009 or be lost because you cannot bank them.

5. Now assume that instead of a Jan 2009 ressie, you make a July 2008 ressie with those points you are getting March 2008. In May 2008 you learn you have to cancel. You are not affected by the holding account rule because you are cancelling more than 30 days out. You are also not affected adversely by the banking rule -- those points go back into your March 2008 use year and you have until end of Oct 2008 to bank them all.

6. Thus, the examples show how your ability to bank upon cancellation can be affected by your use year in comparison to time of your trip. If you go at the same time every year (and plan to do so long into the future), you should consider getting a use year that begins sometime shortly before you usually go. In fact, you can actually choose any use year that begins eight months or less before time you usually go and still be safe under the banking rule. In your situation if you usually go in March, then a March use year does the trick, as does any use year that begins between August and March (there is no July use year). Note, however, that for many the choice ultimately becomes irrelevant over time because they may start out going the same time every year but, as families age, the time of going to WDW starts to vary



Wow that was great. I sent that one off by email to dh to mull over!:thumbsup2
 





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