Another sad ending for a missing girl

Since this is the DIS, I kept thinking of the line from Finding Nemo between Marlin and Dory. The gist of it is below:


That's a funny thing to promise. Well, you can't never let anything happen to him, then nothing would ever happen to him.
 
Does he ever go to that friend's house to hang out? Is he not allowed to walk there on his own?

Honestly, no not really. There's one friend that lives on our street, down the street from us. That kid normally comes over to our place thou, his mom isnt comfortable with him having friends over, so they hang at my place. Other than that particular friend, there's nobody else that he hangs with after school. All of his school friends are scattered about and dont live that close to eachother. So once school is out, everyone goes home and does their own thing.

I just remembered...a few times I have let my son go to the park alone with the same friend i mentioned above. So i guess im not as paranoid as i thought. lol.

Im sure everything will change in a few years. By then i'll ease up a bit. LOL!

I know a few parents who have kids my sons age, they let their kids ride their bikes ANYWHERE THEY PLEASE, they let them go as far as they please. Im not comfy with that yet, and frankly i dont think my son is either. He hasnt expressed any interest in it. So again, we dont really have an issue. :thumbsup2
 
Honestly, no not really. There's one friend that lives on our street, down the street from us. That kid normally comes over to our place thou, his mom isnt comfortable with him having friends over, so they hang at my place. Other than that particular friend, there's nobody else that he hangs with after school. All of his school friends are scattered about and dont live that close to eachother. So once school is out, everyone goes home and does their own thing.

I just remembered...a few times I have let my son go to the park alone with the same friend i mentioned above. So i guess im not as paranoid as i thought. lol.

Im sure everything will change in a few years. By then i'll ease up a bit. LOL!

I know a few parents who have kids my sons age, they let their kids ride their bikes ANYWHERE THEY PLEASE, they let them go as far as they please. Im not comfy with that yet, and frankly i dont think my son is either. He hasnt expressed any interest in it. So again, we dont really have an issue. :thumbsup2

I let my 10 and 13 year olds ride their bikes all over the neighborhood by themselves, so I don't find that odd at all.
 
Absolutely agree. Because you do know that 20-, 30-, 40+ year old women are abducted, raped, killed, etc. ALL the time.

I want my children to live and freely enjoy life. All I can really do is equip them to do so as safely as possible.

And abusers pick their victims, and they are most likely the oversheltered kids of the past. Things are so much safer today than when I grew up. Bad things happen, but there is something to be said about being too protective.

I have such a small window to prepare my kids for the rest of their lives. One doesn't turn 18 and develop a safety shield. The dangers are still there, and more likely to happen. The thought of a child being raped and murdered is horrible, and always stays in the news. You know how many rapes and murders there are of adults every single day? Heck, I get NYC local news - I hear it every single day.
 

I know a few parents who have kids my sons age, they let their kids ride their bikes ANYWHERE THEY PLEASE, they let them go as far as they please. Im not comfy with that yet, and frankly i dont think my son is either. He hasnt expressed any interest in it. So again, we dont really have an issue. :thumbsup2

Um, I let my 13 year olds ride their bike around town, just like all of the other mothers here. I'm glad I don't have fearful kids, those most likely to be victims when they're finally on their own.

My kids all walk to school - the older 2 walk over a 1 1/2 miles each way.
 
I let my 10 and 13 year olds ride their bikes all over the neighborhood by themselves, so I don't find that odd at all.

Me either. I teach my kids to be aware of their surroundings, I do not teach them to fear living.
 
Um, I let my 13 year olds ride their bike around town, just like all of the other mothers here. I'm glad I don't have fearful kids, those most likely to be victims when they're finally on their own.

My kids all walk to school - the older 2 walk over a 1 1/2 miles each way.

I let my 10 and 13 year olds ride their bikes all over the neighborhood by themselves, so I don't find that odd at all.

Well then, I guess we just decided that im a tad over protective then? :lmao:

As I said, my son expressed no interest in riding his bike around the neighbourhood with his friends. Maybe he senses that im not comfy with it, and thats why he hasnt asked? or perhaps he just isnt into it. I really dont know. :confused3 I really dont think he's into it, because he's never asked to ride around. Probably because none of his friends ride their bikes around either. Neither does the buddy down the street. If he had, maybe it would be different. Like i said, i've let him go to the park alone with his friend a few times, so surely i cant be that bad! :rotfl2:
 
Agree with this 100%. I am afraid we will have a generation of kids who do not know how to function on their own because they have never been allowed to. I understand we don't ever want anything bad to happen to our kids, but as the pp said, bad things do happen. No matter what.

That's why, when I have kids, I'm going to try my hardest to let them be kids, be independent but be there when they need me - basically how I was raised. I don't want to trap my kids in the house in fear of the boogie man, that's no kind of life to live. I'm just going to teach my children to be aware of their surroundings and who they are with. What I was taught.
 
Like PPs have stated, the world isn't any more dangerous today than it was when I was a kid in the 80's or when my parents were kids in the 50's. We just hear about way more now than they did. In the 1950's this case could have just as easily happened but it would have made the paper in a few towns in New Jersey and that was it. The rest of the world would have been blissfully unaware of it and would have been under the false assumption that since they didn't hear about every tragedy they didn't happen.

Murders happen every day. Sometimes the victims (or perpetrators) are kids. It is what it is but living in fear just seems silly and, quite frankly, damaging. You are much more likely to kill your child while you are driving them somewhere than anything like this happening to them.
 
So, to you admitted helicopter parents - what is the magic age when your chilren will be allowed to go somewhere that you cannot supervise? Or go somewhere by themselves?

I'm still a helicopter parent and both of my girls are in their early 30's, married and out on their own. I need to know they are safely in their homes when they've been out and about without their husbands. I also plan on being a helicopter grandma. They laugh at me but it eases my mind. :hug:
 
The term helicopter parent REALLY makes me laugh for some reason. LMAO! :lmao:



I'm still a helicopter parent and both of my girls are in their early 30's, married and out on their own. I need to know they are safely in their homes when they've been out and about without their husbands. I also plan on being a helicopter grandma. They laugh at me but it eases my mind. :hug:
Anywho, im just curious about something...do your daughters inform you every time they have plans to go out? I suppose they do, cause how else would you know theyre going out right? Lol. And when they return, do they call you or text you to tell you that theyre home safe? you must have a close relationship with them. :goodvibes Im just curious, thats all.
 
I'm still a helicopter parent and both of my girls are in their early 30's, married and out on their own. I need to know they are safely in their homes when they've been out and about without their husbands. I also plan on being a helicopter grandma. They laugh at me but it eases my mind. :hug:

I can't quite tell whether you're kidding or not. Do your DDs call you every time they leave their house and then return home? I feel like you must be exaggerating! I speak to my mother maybe once a week or so. I can't even fathom her knowing whether I'm home or not throughout the day.
 
I can't quite tell whether you're kidding or not. Do your DDs call you every time they leave their house and then return home? I feel like you must be exaggerating! I speak to my mother maybe once a week or so. I can't even fathom her knowing whether I'm home or not throughout the day.

I didnt stop to think that she might be joking. Lol. I took her seriously.
 
I'm still a helicopter parent and both of my girls are in their early 30's, married and out on their own. I need to know they are safely in their homes when they've been out and about without their husbands. I also plan on being a helicopter grandma. They laugh at me but it eases my mind. :hug:

You're kidding, right? :lmao:
 
I'm still a helicopter parent and both of my girls are in their early 30's, married and out on their own. I need to know they are safely in their homes when they've been out and about without their husbands. I also plan on being a helicopter grandma. They laugh at me but it eases my mind. :hug:

I simply cannot believe this. I cannot believe you know whenever your daughters go out or that they have to check in with you when they get home.

That's absurd.
 
How about instead of criticizing each other's parenting and calling names like helicopter parents...why dont we all say a prayer or send out some good thoughts to Autumn's family and friends.

Let's hug our kids and be glad it was not one of them.

And let's take a moment when driving with our kids in the car or around the dinner table tonight, to remind them to be careful when they are out riding their bikes to a friend's house or when waiting for the bus at o'dark thirty in the morning. Teach them how to be safe!

Even though this was not stranger danger, I think we can all use this tragedy as a teaching moment with our kiddos in the hopes that they will stay safe each and everyday!
 
How about instead of criticizing each other's parenting and calling names like helicopter parents...why dont we all say a prayer or send out some good thoughts to Autumn's family and friends.

Let's hug our kids and be glad it was not one of them.

And let's take a moment when driving with our kids in the car or around the dinner table tonight, to remind them to be careful when they are out riding their bikes to a friend's house or when waiting for the bus at o'dark thirty in the morning. Teach them how to be safe!

Even though this was not stranger danger, I think we can all use this tragedy as a teaching moment with our kiddos in the hopes that they will stay safe each and everyday!


BRAVO! :thumbsup2 Very well said. I totally agree.
 
I kind of think the world is more dangerous today. Gangs, drugs, more people. All the child porn on the internet. The kids see stuff and try it. I don't remember the setting other kids on fire. There just seems to be a deeper level of evil. My first nursing job was in a psych hospital, I'm back after 20 some years in the OR and it is a different world. The pts. are so much sicker now. Someone said they thought it was because of the different street drugs out there now. Don't trust everyone, some of my pts. are young, nice looking people that have done some terrible things.
 
There are so many things wrong with this statement, it's hard to know where to begin. For one thing you are teaching your children never to take any chances in life! Also, you do take chances, everyday, you just don't realize it. You are lulled into a false sense of security that as long as you are present nothing bad will happen to your child. You FEEL in control. If your child went to ride their bike alone, you would FEEL out of control and therefor anxious. Even statistically your argument makes no sense, do you have any idea how many more children are killed in car accidents every year than by random abductors?!! No, you don't care about facts, just about how you FEEL. You FEEL no anxiety while driving your child to her friends, but you would FEEL anxious if she walked, therefor you ignore what the facts are about which is truly a more dangerous activity and drive her because it makes you FEEL in control.

Let's think about the children we have seen on TV who were abducted right out of their own bedrooms! Does this mean your entire family sleeps together every night? 2 girls I can think of right now, household names, were not even sleeping alone, one with a sister, one with friends at a sleepover.

When is the magic age they can be alone? I would venture to say that if you really want them safe they never be alone ever in their lives! You see there are many more adult women attacked and killed every year by strangers than children! So you better not go out by yourself alone either if you don't want to take any chances. There are actually less than 50 children every year in the entire US who are abducted and killed by strangers, it FEELS like more because the media loves these stories, they sell!

You are truly being counter-productive when you "helicopter" your child. They are not getting life experience in learning to listen to their own instincts and develop some street smarts. If for 18 years they only listen to mom's voice and don't learn to develop and listen to their own they are going to be the most vulnerable young adults when they finally do get on their own. They will either be crippled by fear that you have instilled in them or they will be so glad to be free they will make stupid dangerous decisions. I much prefer to give my kids time during the 18 years I have them to gradually over time develop their own decision making skills and allow them to become confident in their own decisions. You will see my kids riding their bikes through the subdivision alone, you will see them exploring the woods behind our subdivision, you would see them walking to school alone if it wasn't 12 miles away :), you won't see me, I'm in the house, feeling a bit anxious, and knowing that that means I am doing the right thing :thumbsup2

I didn't ask for your opinion, and I don't care about your facts. My child, my way. She does quite well thank you. When you start paying for her and raising her then you get to make decisions. I can assure you that she will be just as independent and qualified to be a productive citizen as any other kid out there. Only difference, she may be alive where as others may not be. Children are to be protected so they can grow to be adults. AS far as her being in the woods near our house, no thanks, that is where the kids go to do drugs and make out, she doesn't need that go grow up and be successful.
 
I simply cannot believe this. I cannot believe you know whenever your daughters go out or that they have to check in with you when they get home.

That's absurd.

My mom wanted me to call when I was working late. So what. I loved that she was concerned about me.
 

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