Another pit bull attack, link inside....

[NYBlue1]

Don't you know that is obviously a pro pit site so it doesn't count
at least that is according to a previous post

 

[missj1975]

Things I learned on the dis...the world revolves around CathrynRose. Oops, wrong thread.

Did I say that? No, I did not. But I do believe a homeowner/dogowner needs to be sure there are safeguards in place to prevent accidents from happening.

A lock on the gate would have prevented this incident. I don't see why any dog owner wouldn't have a lock on the gate.

I own a dog and I have never once thought of putting a lock on my gate. I don't know any homeowners that have locks on their gates. Is this a law that I am not aware of? The gate to my fence is on private property so to open the gate, a person would be on my private property. Technically anyone could jump my fence. Does that mean I should have a 8 foot fence so no one could jump it? Is that a proper safeguard?

I would have no sympathy for anyone who trespasses on my property and gets bitten by my miniture American Eskimo. But I believe the OP's story is different. The kid who got bit was not on private property, the dog ran out of the yard and bit him. So I guess that means it is the kids fault for being at the wrong place at the wrong time?

 

[Kathi OD]

What is your point? Seriously...we know German Shephards are police dogs - we also know Pits are. And you agreed with such.

Whats your point?

You're nowhere near as confused as you pretend to be.

I do not know the intent of the OP but I was curious as it seems you are implying that the OP is/has repetitively made negative comments against pit bulls. After searching both the OP's posts and the term "pit bull", this is the ONLY thread that the OP started regarding pit bulls or even posted about pit bulls



Let's not finger point here, not all the cheap shots are coming from those that don't like the breed

ITA!

Only Kathi OD can really say what her point was, but I suspect it may have been that you were trying to skew the percentages by using only the information from the website you cited.

Exactly. PP stated that 98% of police dogs are german shepherds and CR offers up a site that provides pitbulls free of charge to governmental agencies and says NO! (as in that's not true). BTW...nowhere on that lawdogs website does it state that the vast majority of police dogs are, in fact, pitbulls. So CR is making what I believe a conscious effort to mislead.

So using a site wihtout any percentages discredits the percentages given?
How exactly is that?

It provides no proof that CR's statement that they aren't the most widely used breed in law enforcement is, in fact, true. Therefore it shouldn't have been offered as proof of her disagreement.

the breeds used by one police dept does not represent the entire nation/world

It reasonably follows that a police department would be well aware of which breeds of dogs are most commonly used in POLICE work, not the opinions of some crazed WDW fan (a group to which I also belong and so is not to be construed as a negative attack on CR).

 

[NYBlue1]

Things I learned on the dis...the world revolves around CathrynRose. Oops, wrong thread.

ei yi yi

 

[CathrynRose]

Things I learned on the dis...the world revolves around CathrynRose. Oops, wrong thread.

 

[CathrynRose]

ei yi yi

No cheap shots... no.

 

[Disney Doll]

And the owners should put a lock on their gate to ensure little ones won't venture in their yard again.

And parents should teach their children how to behave, which includes not entering other peoples' property.

Oh I know "they're only kids".

Well, "it's only a dog".

There are many people at fault here.

 

[darlak]

The people I am speaking about know who they are, if you dont know what im talking about then its not something you were involved in. I cant think of a better way to phrase that , so if you are in the dark, consider this nothing about you or aimed at you

Oh, I know what you're speculating. I just don't happen to agree. As another poster who's been around much longer than me has pointed out, pit bull attack threads are nothing new to the CB. They've been around much longer than either me or CR.

My point remains though, that is unconscionable to come to a thread like this one to defend or promote the breed that was the attacker. Threads like this one are not the place to promote your love of the breed. Worse yet is to try to place the blame on the victim.

 

[sha_lyn]

It reasonably follows that a police department would be well aware of which breeds of dogs are most commonly used in POLICE work, not the opinions of some crazed WDW fan (a group to which I also belong and so is not to be construed as a negative attack on CR).

What ever....so I gues thatthe police depts that use dogs from lawdogusa (or other facilites that train pits) are just unaware that they are using the wrong breed.

 

[colleenlynn]

I disagree. If out of 2132 attacks, only 10 were committed by Dalmations, then that 24% is just over 2 attacks that proved to be serious, whereas over 11 of the pitbull attacks were. Now, I understand that there could have been 200 attacks and then the actual number of cases would change.

If a pitbull is more likely to attack, and based on my personal experiences with dogs and attacks/bites, they are, then that total number becomes an important part of the equation.



We can agree on this!

the percentages given are not the number of attacks but the severity of the attack.

so, 16% of the labrador attacks had a severity of 3 or higher which required a hospital visit. (the same as the pit bull)
24% of the dalmation attacks required a hospital visit.

point is pit bull bites tend to be of the same severity as other breeds.

 

[luvindisneyworld]

Oh, I know what you're speculating. I just don't happen to agree. As another poster who's been around much longer than me has pointed out, pit bull attack threads are nothing new to the CB. They've been around much longer than either me or CR.

My point remains though, that is unconscionable to come to a thread like this one to defend or promote the breed that was the attacker. Threads like this one are not the place to promote your love of the breed.

But see you cant make CR beleive that these threads are not all about her. I dont get the me me me attitude. I have seen these threads for over 6 years now and they are nothing new to this board.

But if it makes her feel better to think they are then thats okay

I have said so many times this is not the threads to do that on but who am I to say anything, I just think it is sad.

 

[NYBlue1]

Oh, I know what you're speculating. I just don't happen to agree. As another poster who's been around much longer than me has pointed out, pit bull attack threads are nothing new to the CB. They've been around much longer than either me or CR.

My point remains though, that is unconscionable to come to a thread like this one to defend or promote the breed that was the attacker. Threads like this one are not the place to promote your love of the breed. Worse yet is to try to place the blame on the victim.

Im not speculating, and this really has not alot to do with pitbull threads . Ill leave it at that. Hope you have a great rest of the afternoon.

 

[CathrynRose]

But see you cant make CR beleive that these threads are not all about her. I dont get the me me me attitude. I have seen these threads for over 6 years now and they are nothing new to this board.

But if it makes her feel better to think they are then thats okay
.

Wow - you have a good day too.

Take a look at the last few pages and tell me it ISNT about me - me - me!!

 

[Chipmunk89]

ei yi yi

What does this mean?

And parents should teach their children how to behave, which includes not entering other peoples' property.

Oh I know "they're only kids".

Well, "it's only a dog".

There are many people at fault here.

Yes, they're only kids. Yes, it's only a dog. But the owner is supposed to be a responsible adult.

Why is putting a lock on your gate so offensive to people? I would hope that the lock would prevent your dog from getting lost or injured.

 

[sha_lyn]

But see you cant make CR beleive that these threads are not all about her. I dont get the me me me attitude. I have seen these threads for over 6 years now and they are nothing new to this board.

look back and read the posts on this thread and others. Several of us can say the same things that CR says, very often saying it numerous times before she joins the thread. However she is the only one "called out by name". that pretty much says it all. While it might not be the intention of some OPs that start threads about pits, it certainly is the intention of some posters.

 

[darlak]

Im not speculating, and this really has not alot to do with pitbull threads . Ill leave it at that. Hope you have a great rest of the afternoon.

I think we should just agree to disagree on this one NYBlue1. Hope your afternoon is great as well.

BYW and completely OT, what kind of dog is that little brown one in the picture?

 

[Kathi OD]

Actually, they don't. At least not in any significant numbers.

Labs and German sheperds are probably 98% of dogs used in law enforcement.

No? http://www.lawdogsusa.org/home.html

i don't believe anyone was talking about the most popular breed of police dog.
and the site lawdogsusa.org doesn't present percentages of breeds used. it was founded by a respected canine trainer and authority though.

the original post point was that pit bulls are used as service dogs to illustrate the point that pit bulls are not "inherently dangerous". i believe kathi od missed the point.

Colleen, follow these posts and you'll see that there was discussion of the most popular breed of police dog. Also, following these two posts, one right after the other, and you should agree that I did not miss the point.

TC says pitbulls aren't used in any significant numbers as police dogs and that german shepherds & labs make up 98% of the dogs used in law enforcement and then CR says NO (which to me means that TCs statement about how much pits are used in policework is incorrect) and then posts the lawdog site. The lawdog site does nothing to refute the original statement that pitbulls are not used in any large numbers for police work.

 

[Disney Doll]

There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners.

and...

There are no bad kids, just bad parents who don't teach their children to respect other peoples' property, leave gates closed and leave dogs alone.

OP, you seem to have an "issue" with pit bulls, since you post every attack story here on the DIS.

I find that interesting.....

 

[sha_lyn]

Yes, they're only kids. Yes, it's only a dog. But the owner is supposed to be a responsible adult.

Parents should also be responsible adults and teach their children boundries and supervise their children if the children are incapable of being responsible for themselves.

 

[luvindisneyworld]

Wow - you have a good day too.

Take a look at the last few pages and tell me it ISNT about me - me - me!!

CR you do it to yourself you put yourself here in everyone of these threads and you know that. I have defended you many times on here and you know that i have but good greif this is just getting a bit much.
Really like I have said I have been here over 6 years and these kinds of threads have been here for as long as I can remember. So it really is not about you. So when you see one instead of trying to defend one after they have bitten a child or attacked a child you should just say i am sorry that happened and then back away. It does not help you to come in and try to defend the dog or the breed just causes an uproar and that is just not nice.

I have a big dog I have posted pictures of before and I can say without a doubt in my mind if a child were to come into my yard and he was to bite them no matter the reason he would be put down. I love him like my child but I will not put up with that happening. He is very good with kids but that does not mean one day that he will not decide to bite and I can assure you when he does that will be the last time that it will happen.